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So if I take the under at even money, it's a sucker bet with horrible odds? +100 at a sportsbook are horrible odds? Got it.

Not if you take the other side. Miami under 9.5 is even money, for example.

Agreed on Clemson. I mean, they’re gonna win the league. But -835 for a team to win a P5 league is absolute insanity.

I think it’s a pretty decent number, IMO. I’m definitely taking under rather than over cause I think 8 is far more likely than 10. But I don’t think you’d get much 2 way action on 8.5 and certainly not on 8.

Even. +100 on under 9.5, -139 on over 9.5

They have Miami at 9.5.....and you have to lay -139 on the over. Safe to say they're bullish on the Canes. Others of note: the gator at 9....-139 on the over Notre Dame at 9 with -125 on the under Va Tech at 7 with -134 on the under Clemson at 11.5 with -125 on the under Pitt at 7 with -125...