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I was there for it, yes I saw it. I'll defer to you guys who know cb play way better than me but I've seen him just stand there and let his guy go by and not even chase several times in key situations over the last couple years. imo that's unacceptable and would get a player permanently...

I hear you, but watching dudes run by you while you just stand there isn't a defense/scheme thing. Until he shows something different on the field, he's barely even a jag to me.. he's a liability.

I really really hope I don't have to see Ivey starting this year. right then and there I'm :kramer: