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I'm not doubting this. But Bama has deeper pockets; in my opinion, if Saban wanted to keep him on staff, he could have outbid us no problem.

Hope you're right. I really want to see our offense get out of the stone age.

The facts are on the front page, my friend.

That depends. Some guys have done well (Kirby Smart, I guess you could put Kiffin here?) Others have not fared as well - Nussmeier, McElwain, Pruitt is still a question mark. His LSU coaching tree is very good, I will give him that.

Nope. Here's my thoughts on it, since you seem to want to put words in my mouth. 1. It's an underwhelming hire for what Manny said he wanted to do with the offense. If the goal is spread, stress-the-defense horizontally and vertically, this is not the guy to do that. 2. That's not a bad thing...

Great, he did well for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Doesn't ignore that at CMU and Arkansas, both offenses got worse as his tenure went along. Malik Rosier threw for 3000 yards and 26 TDs last season. Consider me unimpressed. Also, when a feather in your cap is "I did great things with the Allen...

It doesn't explain his awful numbers at Central Michigan. And he took over a CMU team that went 12-2 and finished the season ranked #24 (and proceeded to go 3-9 in back to back seasons), so you can't make the argument that he inherited a bare cupboard.

McElwain did. Nussmeier did not. He went to Michigan to be an offensive coordinator. The entire point of this thread was "show me something besides Bama and UGA wanted him." The OP put numbers down that paint a pretty bleak picture. That's an objective fact. As for "show us a better available...

So was Mark Richt.

The point is that the only support for this move is "Alabama and Georgia wanted him," which is entirely subjective. The objective numbers don't bear out that this guy is all that great as a coordinator. Central Michigan wasn't his only data points. He also included data from Arkansas. The...

Look up Doug Nussmeier and Jim McElwain after they left Alabama, and tell me how well that worked out.

Again, "fired" coaches can still have an impact as coordinators. Don't believe me? Look at Kiffin's offense at Bama. Or the turnarousn Gene Chizik made at UNC as defensive coordinator. And another thing - no one is saying that "I'd prefer X fired coach to Enos!" The fact of the matter is MANNY...

You really think that Saban is being outbid if he didn't want this guy to leave Tuscaloosa? No chance.

That's a clown argument. The poster went out of his way to show stats that indicate that this in no way should be considered a "home run" hire. And the false equivalency you posed now means he'd prefer Richt? Oregon hired Chip Kelly from NEW HAMPSHIRE. Swinney pulled Chad Morris from TULSA. You...