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Well, we had a good run. Maybe we'll try this again a little later when policy can be kept separate from politics.

1. The intent is to talk about a current event, not to hash out grudges. Policy without politics is possible. 2. I'm pretty sure I just got invited to your front porch. I'll bring a bottle.

This is about Ukraine, remember?

This thread just isn't for everyone.

Our media is only worried about what can influence ratings. Our politicians are only worried about the next election. And the two are often intertwined at the expense of truly newsworthy events around the globe.

If you want to talk about Ukraine, that's fine. But we're not going too far into D vs R territory. Please feel free to discuss.