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  1. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Jeez, man, someone is super sensitive today! I didn't mean that as a name call to you personally. I meant it in a general context; i.e. "you'd have to be a fool to think Manny took him back with ZERO conditions whatsoever". My apologies if I wrote it poorly and you took it as a personal...
  2. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    We're simply discussing two different topics. I don't disagree with you at all that coaches will do whatever it takes to recruit good players. I disagree wholeheartedly with you that any good coach (Manny included) would allow a kid to do what JT4 did and then walk back in with zero conditions...
  3. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Agree with your point, but back to the topic... do you honestly believe that Manny set no conditions whatsoever on JT4's return? It was just a kumbaya welcome back like nothing happened? Zero chance that happened. Manny knows what he's doing.
  4. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Yes, i am thrilled to have him back. Im also hopeful there are conditions on his return, aka: manny makes it clear that kind of behavior will not be tolerated moving forward, by JT4 or anyone else on the team. I am confident that is the case as Manny is a savage.
  5. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Unconditionally?!? WTF uhhh, no.
  6. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Vs coming back to the team you quit on? Sure it is.
  7. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Thats my personal take based on the entire situation and his history. "Didnt really want him back" meaning there was some hesitancy there from the staff (understandable) and it wasnt going to be just a happy go lucky welcome back with open arms like nothing happened (and rightfully so). Once...
  8. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    AKA there were conditions on him returning that he wasn't willing to agree to. No, Jeff, you dont get to curse coaches out, try and fight them, completely walk out on your team midseason, and then return like nothing happened.
  9. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    That "business" had him one year away from being a millionaire athlete, even if richt hadn't stepped down. Fact. Now he possibly sits out a year in which case odds of him making it through class to even be able to play again aren't great. What was your point again?
  10. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    We will be fine without JT4.
  11. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    My quit again comment was a joke, bud.
  12. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    So he quit on us AGAIN?!?
  13. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    "he got in trouble for balling out too hard in the VT game."
  14. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    WTF?!? He was suspended from starting the VT game for skipping meetings. He then punked out again the following week. I'm all for 2nd chances as well and if Manny thinks it is the best for the program, I support it 100%. But jesus christ man stop with the excuses for the kid!
  15. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    Because Pope looked 120pds soaking wet, couldn't get separation at all against D1 defenders, and couldn't block worth a sh-t and got penalties when he did try and block? Look, Pope may grow into a beast WR,but he wasn't ready by any means last season and it looked that way every time he was out...
  16. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    "None of them had the balls to call out the coaching staff"?!? Wow, the excuse making for JT4 around here has hit epic proportions. If he has a heart to heart with Manny and convinces him he'll be a good teammates and MANNY chooses to let him back on the team, fine. But it's unreal how so...
  17. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    So dumb. One of the biggest challenges in front of this new staff is rooting out the diva mentality that had taken over the locker room. Jeff Thomas was a ring leader of that sh-t. Zero chance whatsoever the staff would take him back regardless of his on field potential. Why the **** are...
  18. For_The_U

    Jeff Thomas sticking with Illinois. NOT!

    He didn't get thrown off the team, he quit on his team… just like he always does.
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