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Agreed... ive said on here that anything less than ACC championship appearance would be a failure. The schedule sets up nicely for us

I hear ya... and i will say this what will it take to land him an extension. Me personally he'd have to win the ACC Championship.... bottom line

Dont be sure on that... they could have extended after this years past season and they didn't..if Manny falters this year then his buyout drops again... If we land the class I believe we can after talking to some trusted people then this team would be ripe for the right coach to come in and...

Gonna go out on a limb and say you dont like Manny

Dead period is in effect isnt it? Im asking by the way not 100% sure on that but That could be why he went there because the week before he was here already and hadnt gone there. In that case he cut his UOV short to come back.

So you want to drop him and tell him no more offer? My question is ok what happens then? Ok we sent a message... now what... were in no position to be doing that. Youve now shown your hand for the rest of CFB to see... " hey if we get that kid to do the upside down u then miami will quit...

I've gone on record of saying that IT COULD backfire..... I've never seen anyone on here said it has. Too early to tell...... Its gonna depend on how and if the staff tries to spin it. Guarantee the kid didn't think he would catch this much flack for it

Ok time to let it go.... cause your pushing it a little to hard. People are gonna have varying opinions. Doesnt make them right or wrong same as you.

Very fair points... Like I said earlier get Tolan and Jackson on the board and I think we'll know where he stands sooner rather than later.

Get me Tolan and Jackson within the next couple weeks and I think we'll have our answer whether he wants in or not....

First Id ask the kid straight up... did you want to do that or did they encourage you? Id have to dive back into the thread which could take me awhile but I believe @Hoyacane1620 said FSU fans were talking about it on their board... also there is another poster who said this has been common...

See this is why I think Manny is going to play this as "politically" as possible. I think Manny should flip this on FSU... How I would shape it?? I would hammer home the fact especially to mom that these "adult coaches/leaders" at FSU got your son to do something that was completely...

The problem with dropping him is whats the fallout going to be in SFLA because you know there will be. Other schools can drop a kid and nothing will happen but it will be flipped on us big time. The only people who have a problem with what he did are Miami people... everyone else could...

Listen you got your opinion on the situation and I got mine.... Im not commenting anymore on this because its a moot point until he commits somewhere

It should really open his eyes to FSU. These coaches are suppose to have your best interests in hand... help guide shape and advise you in the next chapter of your life. Instead their egging you on to be disrespectful... cmon man do it do it do it.... thats fu*king childish

Like I said Im just speculating by connecting the dots to who he is, where hes from etc...and that it was said he was one of the main ones encouraging Bissthane to do the gesture. As Marvin Jones Jr I view him just like Blades and when he went up to FSU and stood on their logo while throwing...

Someone mentioned the person standing next to him doing the U down gesture as Sabbath Jospeh who went to Central. I saw he played LB for USF and was a grad assistant for them before going to FSU. Is it possible hes one of these Sfla guys who hates Miami because he never got an offer from us...