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This is my concern with that study. You are including players from an era of 'Canes football that assembled the best collection of talent in the history of college football. But we're five different head coaches removed from many of those players. I'd like to get a look at those numbers on...

Absolutely. As an aside...listen, I like Jeff Thomas. He is a good football player. But I just saw Hakeem Butler go in the fourth round of the NFL Draft. If you haven't seen Hakeem Butler...he's ******* incredible. 6'5" 225lbs that tests in the 85th percentile. Played inside, outside...

I don't see this as a difficult concept to understand. Joe Jackson is a good football player. But what is difficult to understand about him performing so poorly during the process that resulted in him going so late in the draft? Joe Jackson is good, but he's not Calais good at the same time...

"We don't know what happened" to Gerald Willis either...but whatever it is, just know, the NFL putting that red flag next to your placard and some teams aren't about to fvck with you when their short term and long term job security rely on you not being your knucklehead self once you get paid...

I think its Awsi Dooger that constantly points out to stop looking at outliers and I think that needs to be restated in this thread. I'd love to see a real statistical analysis that shows or proves Miami players exceed draft slot...that'd be my hypothesis, too...but you still need to evaluate...

Even if he tests like an ELITE athlete...what will distinguish him from the other elite athletes at the WR position in the draft. Emanuel Hall, 99th percentile athlete, 6'2" 200lbs, 2nd Team All-SEC, one of the nation's leaders in yards per reception just went undrafted.

And what happens when Jeff Thomas tests like a 30th percentile athlete or something? In one year's time...our narrative on Jeff Thomas is going be identical to some of these other conversations we are having. He's not a mature man, he's small, his production is only ok, and if he's not an...

We gonna be having the same exact conversation about Jeff Thomas, ain't we? Like...we already know how that one is going to go down and y'all still gonna act shocked.

The NFL won't give him 3+ years to figure it out. He's gotta figure it out now.

It seems like some of you want people to lie about what they think of a player just because it's time for them to make that money. If you were a teacher and a C- student with behavior problems came up to you asking for a Letter of Recommendation to go to college...are you going to write up a...

Character concerns. Tested like a near non-NFL athlete. Film isn't as good as you think it is. I am sure, over the years at Florida and Miami, area scouts have heard way more bad about him as a dude than they have good things. It is what it is. I hope he's grown as a man. I think he has from...