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And my point is you’re on a thread where Manny is trying to blame the fans for his recruiting failures instead of taking ownership and every fan base would have the same issues after 15-20 years of malpractice and incompetence. Go look at Bama until Saban got there. Go look at Florida under...

Ok so you think that Georgia fans wanting to fire a guy who was a play or two away from a title is reasonable, but Miami fans wanting to fire a guy who is about .500, whose team can’t tackle, loses to inferior teams routinely, and a host of other deficiencies are toxic. Got it. Like I said...

Cool. And I think you’re saying that from a bubble. I live in Atlanta and heard Auburn fans ready to chase off Chizik two years after a title, Georgia fans ready to put Kirby on the hot seat if this year didn’t go well, Tennessee fans who marched when they tried to hire Schiano. And when these...

Again, we very well may not be, especially when we are up against state schools that have hundreds of thousands of alums donating. But you are conflating two issues with zero facts to support the point you're trying to make. And not many fan bases have had to deal with apathetic leader, 5...

I think 1) you are talking out of your *** with absolutely zero data to support that and 2) the support given and needed to maintain a program when we were last good is SO different from today that it is impossible to tell. Are we ever going to get as much as Bama, Georgia, or any state school...

I am starting to get a bit concerned that these comments about the admin mean certain people are going to be sticking around and the tone has shifted.

Politely, this is bull****. After 15-20 years of mismanagement and waste, they cannot then complain about monetary and tangible support. They are lucky anyone is a big enough sucker to still contribute with evidence of the financial irresponsibility by Blake James. I can tell you, I won't...

I don’t fault Manny at all for accepting the job. I do fault Manny for quotes like this and using his POS father to try to call in political favors.

You and me are typically in lockstep on thoughts, and we are here again. He is acting like a **** petulant child instead of taking ownership, putting his head down, and focusing on what he can. He is making $3.5m a year. No one is feeling sorry for him. Part of me doesn’t want to dislike Manny...

One of my favorite parts. No one has turned against the program, they have turned against the idiot coach and AD. And if us fans who don't know anything can see it, the recruits, their families, and advisors can too.