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Yup. I like the current trajectory of the class, but it requires us to hold onto our current commits and adding a few more guys on both lines, in addition to some skill positions (which is likely going to happen).

Look, I'm not here to argue the merits of the Domers, but a few things: 1.) We play a weak schedule. If we recruit at the same level as ND, we're hitting double-digit wins every season and playing in the ACCG every year. That's the gist of what I was getting at by including ND in there. 2.) As...

Yes, I meant never miss a position group in terms of numbers, not in terms of "evaluate every player perfectly." Every year, a position should have at least one player taken, and if not, there should be a good reason for not doing so (i.e., you don't take a defensive back because you took six...

I wouldn't call Boyd transcendent, but hadn't realized 247 had him as a five-star (were they even around back then?). Your point stands, though - Swinney had a very good QB in Boyd. I was basing my comments off the fact Rivals had him as the #51 overall player in 2009. Martell was #39 in 2017...

All good, just building off your post.

Pretty sure he was a four-star on all services. It's a good point, though; but I'd argue those Boyd teams wouldn't have been good without the foundation Swinney started putting into place. Also worth pointing out that a Boyd-led Clemson squad lost 70-33 in the Orange Bowl in 2012.

Numbers 3, 5 and 6 didn't happen until 1,2 and 4 did. My post is directed towards getting moving in the direction of 1, 2 and 4; you gotta build that before you get to 3, 5 and 6.

This didn't happen until his fifth full class with Clemson, so I'm not sure how that's at all relevant to my post about building the foundation of the program from the ground up.

I've been meaning to make this thread for awhile, but haven't had time. Now that I've got a moment (and I touched on this briefly in another thread), I wanted to discuss the model Manny needs to pursue in order to return the Canes to dynasty status. When the topic of South Florida five-stars...