Update on numbers and transfers post-signing day

Feb 6, 2019

If you read the predictions article from yesterday, I referenced how I was told from a program source that UM was operating from the standpoint that they have 4 spots available in this class coming into today. 2 of those were being saved for a transfer DE and a transfer OL, while the other 2 were for high school recruits in the 2019 class.

Today, the Canes added 2019 CB Christian Williams and Virginia Tech grad transfer DE Trevon Hill, so UM is still looking to add 2 more players. As of now, the only 2 players I’m aware Miami is chasing after are transfers from the portal: UCLA DE transfer Jaelan Phillips and Georgia Tech OL grad transfer Parker Braun.

With Phillips, I picked him to Miami last week and I’m told it’s nearing towards a done deal. The original plan with Phillips was to hold off on enrolling him until the fall to count him towards the 2020 numbers since he has to sit out the 2019 season regardless and instead use the spot on someone that could be eligible next year (a high schooler or a grad transfer). It’s unclear if that plan has changed since UM did not land a second high school recruit today and UM now has an extra spot to give.

On Braun, I’m hearing there’s heavy interest coming from the player side due to Miami’s wide open depth chart on the OL. I’m told Miami is very confident in their chances to land Braun and are working him hard to get him on campus for a visit. The Florida Gators are thought to be another prominent contender, along with Texas and Ohio State.

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HighSeas

Feb 6, 2019

OrangeBowlMagic said:
This is tough to really quantify because the kids are in all different classes and it’s tough to definitively say a grad transfer for 1 year is more impactful than someone who could play 2-3 years, like Martin for example, but I could argue that Braun would be the best get out of anyone in the portal other than Martell.

Pairing these skill positions players with a hopefully competent QB in a 21st century offense AND significantly upgrading the line can’t be understated. Putting Braun at LG possibly upgrades this entire team more than any 1 other player does/could, assuming Martell has to sit. This would be that big of a get.

I haven't seen Braun but I think you're underselling how big of an upgrade Nnoruka is and how good Martin is.

We know what we have at DT and it's far from ideal in terms of quality and quantity. The young OL haven't had a chance to prove themselves with a new offensive staff and a year of growth.

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Canes Stan

Feb 6, 2019

dudenate said:
If true, that’s just weird. Ahmonn still on scholly but his brother isn’t!?!! We handle a difficult situation with the upmost class and care (with the best interest of the kid clearly in mind) & his dumb@$$ bro goes to aub. :/ It just feels weird.

(This post no way insenuates that I think Malek and AR should not have schollys from um. If true, im glad they still do and support it)

His bro don’t owe Miami a **** thing. Keeping AR on scholarship was and still is the right thing to do but that literally has nothing to do with his little bro and his choices.

HurricaneUWW

Feb 7, 2019

Canes Brotherhood said:
Braun is that line captain we need. Wonder if he plays C as well.
Phillips to me was always going to contribute in 2020. Get in our S.C. next year and get healthy. We loose Hill and possibly Garvin with a big year.
Phillips then competes with Harvey and Williams for starting position in 2020.

I would LOVE to see Braun at C with Gaynor/Reed at LG and Donaldson at RG.

#1cane

Feb 7, 2019

O line has to be #1 priority. Get Braun!!

OrangeBowlMagic

Feb 7, 2019

HighSeas said:
I haven't seen Braun but I think you're underselling how big of an upgrade Nnoruka is and how good Martin is.

We know what we have at DT and it's far from ideal in terms of quality and quantity. The young OL haven't had a chance to prove themselves with a new offensive staff and a year of growth.

So you literally said you haven’t seen the kid I’m talking about, but you’re essentially disagreeing with what I said? I love this site so much.

Halcyon Daze

Feb 7, 2019

Zbrod95 said:

Worst thing that happened to the Heat was finishing 30-10 a couple of years ago and then giving out those ridiculous contracts to Whiteside, JJ, matching for Tyler Johnson...rebuilding is gonna be tough because Heat is capped out and has virtually no tradeable contracts. That unprotected 2021 1st round pick from the Dragic trade is looking worse and worse by the day.

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Paranos

Feb 7, 2019

Yaya cane said:
How can they have 2 spots left if they can only sing 25 player per cycle.? And they already have 17 HS and 8 transfers. Do they make 2 transfers wait until fall? Or is someone getting kicked out?

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HighSeas

Feb 7, 2019

OrangeBowlMagic said:
So you literally said you haven’t seen the kid I’m talking about, but you’re essentially disagreeing with what I said? I love this site so much.

So you literally can't comprehend language, but you're essentially arguing with a straw man? I love this site so much. Haha look at me I'm so witty and clever with my sarcasm.

If Braun is so great please enlighten me on his skillset. I'd love to hear your analysis of him as a player. I'll just pretend that your opinion of him isn't entirely based on whatever accolades and experience he has.

Hint: I never disagreed with your post. The purpose of mine was to underline how those 2 players are probably better than you think and how the status of the depth chart is currently. If you actually watched the film of these players instead of making assumptions based on general data points like recruiting rankings, production and experience you might understand. But instead you're so eager to lash out like a douchebag that you completely miss the value of what I said.

Either way - ignore listed. I'll let the rest of the board deal with your insecurities.

Carolinacane83

Feb 7, 2019

Canes Stan said:
His bro don’t owe Miami a **** thing. Keeping AR on scholarship was and still is the right thing to do but that literally has nothing to do with his little bro and his choices.

I believe both are on some sort of medical exception scholarship. School honors their scholly but it does not count toward the 85. This happened to a friend of mine at UNC.

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Mark_RichtOC

Feb 7, 2019

Coaching staff: Who should we get from the portal?

Manny:

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caneallday21

Feb 7, 2019

Halcyon Daze said:
Worst thing that happened to the Heat was finishing 30-10 a couple of years ago and then giving out those ridiculous contracts to Whiteside, JJ, matching for Tyler Johnson...rebuilding is gonna be tough because Heat is capped out and has virtually no tradeable contracts. That unprotected 2021 1st round pick from the Dragic trade is looking worse and worse by the day.

Heat are never going to rebuild or be bad enough where they'll be a top lottery team. Problem is they didnt draft Booker or Mitchell when they had the chance to truly have that #1option

Halcyon Daze

Feb 7, 2019

caneallday21 said:
Heat are never going to rebuild or be bad enough where they'll be a top lottery team. Problem is they didnt draft Booker or Mitchell when they had the chance to truly have that #1option

To be fair to the Heat, almost half the league whiffed on Booker and Mitchell.

Riley has never been a huge build through the draft proponent, bringing in Mourning and Hardaway for those late 90s teams...Shaq to help D-Wade for the first title and LeBron and Bosh for their most recent run. Heat didn't draft a single one of those players.

Being at the top of the lottery sometimes takes multiple years of tanking. Philly whiffed on Okafor and Fultz while getting Embiid and Simmons. A lot of teams have cleared cap space for one or two max players in the upcoming FA season....has to be frustrating for Riley to be capped out with Hassan caliber players.

Unfortunately, the Heat is stuck in the momentum of mediocrity.

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caneallday21

Feb 7, 2019

Halcyon Daze said:
To be fair to the Heat, almost half the league whiffed on Booker and Mitchell.

Riley has never been a huge build through the draft proponent, bringing in Mourning and Hardaway for those late 90s teams...Shaq to help D-Wade for the first title and LeBron and Bosh for their most recent run. Heat didn't draft a single one of those players.

Being at the top of the lottery sometimes takes multiple years of tanking. Philly whiffed on Okafor and Fultz while getting Embiid and Simmons. A lot of teams have cleared cap space for one or two max players in the upcoming FA season....has to be frustrating for Riley to be capped out with Hassan caliber players.

Unfortunately, the Heat is stuck in the momentum of mediocrity.

No I get that, they just were the next options after Justise and Bam. Now the cap looks bad now but this time next year they'll actually be in a good spot to get the money off finally especially if Whiteside and Dragic play well. The contracts are terrible as a whole and Riley knows it so I say bite the bullet for the most part for the next 365 then we can be ok but I can handle it I mean we haven't been the New York Bricks we've had memorable success that doesn't have me dying to win now lol

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Canes Stan

Feb 7, 2019

Carolinacane83 said:
I believe both are on some sort of medical exception scholarship. School honors their scholly but it does not count toward the 85. This happened to a friend of mine at UNC.

My comment was in response to me interpreting a poster saying that because AR is receiving that scholarship his brother should have came here. My scholarship was honored also after I was no longer able to realistically contribute due to injury.

Zbrod95

Feb 7, 2019

caneallday21 said:
No I get that, they just were the next options after Justise and Bam. Now the cap looks bad now but this time next year they'll actually be in a good spot to get the money off finally especially if Whiteside and Dragic play well. The contracts are terrible as a whole and Riley knows it so I say bite the bullet for the most part for the next 365 then we can be ok but I can handle it I mean we haven't been the New York Bricks we've had memorable success that doesn't have me dying to win now lol

Don’t know if y’all remember but Justise was supposed to be a top 5 pick but the problem is that he’s wasn’t really developing because of his injuries. He’s showing signs this year he can be a 20 point guy within the next year or so which has me thinking it was a good pick at the end because he was also a perfect fit. Bam on the other hand should’ve been Jarrett Allen, John Collins, or Kyle Kuzma.

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itsacanething

Feb 7, 2019

guys can you stop posting heat stuff in a thread about recruiting and transfers. you are killing me.

Halcyon Daze

Feb 7, 2019

caneallday21 said:
No I get that, they just were the next options after Justise and Bam. Now the cap looks bad now but this time next year they'll actually be in a good spot to get the money off finally especially if Whiteside and Dragic play well. The contracts are terrible as a whole and Riley knows it so I say bite the bullet for the most part for the next 365 then we can be ok but I can handle it I mean we haven't been the New York Bricks we've had memorable success that doesn't have me dying to win now lol

The Bricks have been a disaster since James Dolan bought the team. Bringing in Phil Jackson turned into an epic fail. This last move, trading away the Unicorn and Hardaway Jr cleared some cap space, but not sure they're gonna draw KD or Kyrie...Adam Silver would, I am positive, love to see Zion in NYC.

Not sure if Justise, JRich and Bam are a high enough quality core to build around. Frustrating b/c they do show flashes. Even at 37, D-Wade is often the best Heat player on the floor. Whiteside is, I think, a dinosaur with the rapid changes in style of play. Painful to watch him constantly clog the lane...even more painful to watch him at the free throw line.

Hopefully, Goran comes back healthy from his knee surgery. Think the Heat really miss him, but even with Dragic, the Heat were an easy 1st round out for the 76ers last year and it's not like the ceiling is any higher this year...

Still better than watching Steve Ross' ineptitude with the Fins or the Marlins ongoing struggles.

In all of those examples...just shows how much leadership matters...in the Canes case, let's hope that Manny is closer to Riley than he is to Ross or Dolan...I have faith.

DerekDohrman

Feb 7, 2019

itsacanething said:
guys can you stop posting heat stuff in a thread about recruiting and transfers. you are killing me.

yes, please stop

McKenzieMoore

Feb 7, 2019

HighSeas said:
I haven't seen Braun but I think you're underselling how big of an upgrade Nnoruka is and how good Martin is.

We know what we have at DT and it's far from ideal in terms of quality and quantity. The young OL haven't had a chance to prove themselves with a new offensive staff and a year of growth.

Braun jumped off the screen to me in gtech game. Trevon Hill would have had a double digit sack season for vtech.