The 4th and 9 play as an example of Route Issues

The 4th and 9 play as an example of Route Issues

LuCane

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I'm going with "someone ran the wrong route".

Unless FSU was in cover 0, there is no way that route combo makes any sense.

I wonder if S. Coley was supposed to come across, underneath the post/corner-out combo from Dorsett and Walford???
(same route Lu illustrates for WR Coley, but no changes to OC Coley's play design)

That would explain why Kaaya was looking to the middle of the field to make the throw, and would be consistent with how he would read the coverage, high to low.

The TE motion makes it clear it's, at least, man-under coverage. You let Walford and Dorsett clear the middle of the field, as both are the inside receivers ... Then throw to Coley coming across.

Waters sits wide, keeping his corner occupied and requiring some awareness from the other safety (depending on safety coverage). Dorsett is going deep, taking his cover and the safety ... Also keeping the other safety deeper if it's cover-2. That's 4 dbs covering 2 WRs. Walford runs the out (a 5th defender), and is the 2nd read if the safety to his side drops down to cover the middle, and doesn't stay high. Coley has to beat his man (6th defender) running the cross.

I think Kaaya read the safety coverage correctly, but expected Coley to come across the middle. I also think they needed the back to stay in because they knew the crossing read would take 6 in protection to give the time needed against 4 or 5 rushers.

If Coley runs that route, Walford is the 2nd read, depending on how they cover. But if the 7th defender (LB) drops to cover the middle cross, instead of spying the RB, Walford is likely the primary ... As long as Dorsett takes the safety to that side deep enough.

But because Coley never comes across ... and in fact, stays short enough and wide enough to render Walford's route useless ... Kaaya just chucks it downfield to Dorsett, and hopes for a completion similar to the UGA vs. Auburn finish last year.

I don't know, man. It's a risky leap to conclude that Stacy Coley just ran the wrong route and should have been coming across the middle. The reasons:

1. Walford still ran a relatively short out to the sticks. If Coley is supposed to come across, the routes should look a lot more like what I drew up in the 2nd picture.
2. They brought Duke across the formation to chip, meaning they moved the LB shadowing him closer to where Kaaya would have had to hit Coley coming across.
3. If you run a shallow or intermediate crossing route from one side, it's sensical to run a vertical route on the other side, where Waters ran a quick in. The reason would be to further clear the field for room to run.

I think it was just a poorly designed play and, frankly, it's not the first time we have some weird route combinations.

Fair points ... That Waters' route, in particular, is tough to explain.

But I think the idea may have been to bring that LB across the formation and throw behind him. Similar to the play-action we run when we bring Coley or Clive across the formation, and throw behind the DE. I think that's the play design, except it targets the safeties and MLB. Bring Duke across the formation, to the side were you have just motioned, and all the action is heading that direction.

But, again, Waters' not challenging the other safety does mean Kaaya would have had to place a perfect ball.

Of course ... I'm not sure there are any play calls for 4th and 9 that won't require excellent ball placement, or the receiver to "make a play".

Credit to FSU ... They were in good defensive position. Man-under, cover-2 is a helluva defense when you have the athletes to run it and you know the opposition is passing the ball.
 
I have one question. This is a play where we called a timeout, then FSU called a time out after Walford motioned across the line. Do you think coley adjusted after FSU's timeout? Or did he run the same play. We'll probably never know, but I think we came out in the same formation and ran the same motion both times. It didn't seem like a good omen at the time...

No. He absolutely stuck with it. That's the frustrating part of that play. Kirk Herbstreit called it live on TV. Right idea needed tweaking to isolate ANYBODY other than Waters. He's an inconsistently used beast and they give Malcolm Lewis love who is. FAR less productive IMO... great blocker tho
 
I'm going with "someone ran the wrong route".

Unless FSU was in cover 0, there is no way that route combo makes any sense.

I wonder if S. Coley was supposed to come across, underneath the post/corner-out combo from Dorsett and Walford???
(same route Lu illustrates for WR Coley, but no changes to OC Coley's play design)

That would explain why Kaaya was looking to the middle of the field to make the throw, and would be consistent with how he would read the coverage, high to low.

The TE motion makes it clear it's, at least, man-under coverage. You let Walford and Dorsett clear the middle of the field, as both are the inside receivers ... Then throw to Coley coming across.

Waters sits wide, keeping his corner occupied and requiring some awareness from the other safety (depending on safety coverage). Dorsett is going deep, taking his cover and the safety ... Also keeping the other safety deeper if it's cover-2. That's 4 dbs covering 2 WRs. Walford runs the out (a 5th defender), and is the 2nd read if the safety to his side drops down to cover the middle, and doesn't stay high. Coley has to beat his man (6th defender) running the cross.

I think Kaaya read the safety coverage correctly, but expected Coley to come across the middle. I also think they needed the back to stay in because they knew the crossing read would take 6 in protection to give the time needed against 4 or 5 rushers.

If Coley runs that route, Walford is the 2nd read, depending on how they cover. But if the 7th defender (LB) drops to cover the middle cross, instead of spying the RB, Walford is likely the primary ... As long as Dorsett takes the safety to that side deep enough.

But because Coley never comes across ... and in fact, stays short enough and wide enough to render Walford's route useless ... Kaaya just chucks it downfield to Dorsett, and hopes for a completion similar to the UGA vs. Auburn finish last year.

I don't know, man. It's a risky leap to conclude that Stacy Coley just ran the wrong route and should have been coming across the middle. The reasons:

1. Walford still ran a relatively short out to the sticks. If Coley is supposed to come across, the routes should look a lot more like what I drew up in the 2nd picture.
2. They brought Duke across the formation to chip, meaning they moved the LB shadowing him closer to where Kaaya would have had to hit Coley coming across.
3. If you run a shallow or intermediate crossing route from one side, it's sensical to run a vertical route on the other side, where Waters ran a quick in. The reason would be to further clear the field for room to run.

I think it was just a poorly designed play and, frankly, it's not the first time we have some weird route combinations.

Fair points ... That Waters' route, in particular, is tough to explain.

But I think the idea may have been to bring that LB across the formation and throw behind him. Similar to the play-action we run when we bring Coley or Clive across the formation, and throw behind the DE. I think that's the play design, except it targets the safeties and MLB. Bring Duke across the formation, to the side were you have just motioned, and all the action is heading that direction.

But, again, Waters' not challenging the other safety does mean Kaaya would have had to place a perfect ball.

Of course ... I'm not sure there are any play calls for 4th and 9 that won't require excellent ball placement, or the receiver to "make a play".

Credit to FSU ... They were in good defensive position. Man-under, cover-2 is a helluva defense when you have the athletes to run it and you know the opposition is passing the ball.

Very true (bolded) and Randy Shannon made a living with it in the early part of this century. However, as we also know, there are some very distinct ways to slice and dice it. Pull up some Bobby Petrino tape or UVA last game of the OB and you'll see what we should have run on 3rd and 9 AND/OR 4th and 9. FSU was asking for it. They wanted to lose that game. We said "no, thank you." Both players and coaches. I know some players feel horrible about it. I hope the coaches do as well.
 
While this was James Coleys best game as our oc (by far imo, the first half was masterfully called), this perfectly shows my gripe with him. There are times when it seems like he over thinks things and ends up making things harder then they need to be. That hitch out combo with Coley and Walford is absolutely idiotic. Those 2 are being used in a way that isn't necessarily the best for them and even if Kaaya wanted to go there that route combo crowds everyone together. Also, and this could be blamed on Kaaya as well but, why would you try and attack Jalen Ramsey at the most critical part of the game? That play looked like it was designed to go to Dorsett. Ramsey on your primary + man under= check to something else.

Imo Lu is spot on in what they should have done. Only thing I'd do is go for Walford. Motion him to show man under and just let him work the middle of the field. No reason to complicate things at that moment, stick to your bread and butter.

Right now, 90% of the time, Kaaya is a rhythm passer. It's completely understandable. He's 19 and seeing a lot of things for the first time. We're really lucky he's as smooth as he is and has so many tools in place that, if the play design is strong, he'll simply execute it. In the future, I'd expect him to improvise on that play a bit. For now, I'm going to wonder for a while why we didn't adjust to their coverages in the second half and allowed them to dictate to us. I was waiting for Tucker in the flats pretty much the entire second half. It never came.

Some people think "aggressive" and immediately go to see whether we passed the ball or if we passed the ball downfield. I say "aggressive" and I'm talking about dictating to the defense. It doesn't have to be stretching them vertically. It means keep countering and stay in control of the flow. Hit the flats and stretch them out horizontally. Kill those LBs who were so vulnerable. I'll give Coley credit on one play that stood out in my mind: somewhere in the second half, we setup a play for Yearby to seemingly chip and release. He was *wide ****ing open*, but the ball got batted down. That's credit to Coley and inexperience on Kaaya.

Because Duke Johnson was cramping. That makes a disadvantage for the O. Allows them to send a safety instead of drop him. YPP dropped to 2.9 yards off the field and he missed 13 of 27 plays on second half
 
so they are vastly underachieving their talent as the #1 team in the country currently in both polls? is something wrong with you? Just because a bunch of freshman came in over the off season highly recruited, you think that means a young inexperienced team like FSU is suppose to blow out teams like they did last year, every year? seriously is something wrong with you?

On paper smh terrible what does on paper mean? Bama lost to Ole Miss, are they vastly underachieving based on their talent? Auburn lost a couple what about them? or is it just because its FSU you like to make up things?

Do you even have a clue? Do you even understand that half of the recruiting rankings are based on quantity not quality? Do you think that because Miami's overall made up recruiting ranking based on that website is 20th between 2010-2013 that means UM's ceiling is 20th? like i said ppl like you who hold on to bs to make excuses like this are an embarrassment to me as a UM fan. smh

Nothing wrong with me, but there's clearly a literacy issue with you. Go back and read what I wrote. I guess it all goes back to the thinking critically thing you mentioned initially. I can. You can't.
 
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so they are vastly underachieving their talent as the #1 team in the country currently in both polls? is something wrong with you? Just because a bunch of freshman came in over the off season highly recruited, you think that means a young inexperienced team like FSU is suppose to blow out teams like they did last year, every year? seriously is something wrong with you?

On paper smh terrible what does on paper mean? Bama lost to Ole Miss, are they vastly underachieving based on their talent? Auburn lost a couple what about them? or is it just because its FSU you like to make up things?

Do you even have a clue? Do you even understand that half of the recruiting rankings are based on quantity not quality? Do you think that because Miami's overall made up recruiting ranking based on that website is 20th between 2010-2013 that means UM's ceiling is 20th? like i said ppl like you who hold on to bs to make excuses like this are an embarrassment to me as a UM fan. smh

Nothing wrong with me, but there's clearly a literacy issue with you. Go back and read what I wrote. I guess it all goes back to the thinking critically thing you mentioned initially. I can. You can't.

I know what you are saying clearly. You said Miami's current record cant be helped because we have 6-4 talent on the roster and Golden did the best he could do with what he had to work with against such a juggernaut as this current FSU team. smh

Also you are saying that FSU is "vastly underachieving" on paper even though they are undefeated and are currently ranked #1 in both AP and coaches polls, which also makes no sense in reality. that article you linked didnt prove your point either.

Line up the depth charts of both FSU and Miamis and please show me the proof that Golden did the best he could do?

Aside from all of that i see this is the 2nd time someone has referenced 2001 Miami in comparisons of this FSU team. Are you drunk? Miami's 2009 team can beat this current FSU team and it's sad to even see the day that UM fans are looking at FSU as if they have a team anywhere near Miami's roster from 2000-04. smh sad
 
Not saying thank you Golden, just saying FSU is way deeper and more talented. They got Cook, Rudolph, and Lane. We did not. They got Joyner, Davonte Freeman, Benjamin, etc. we did not. Winston is a 5 star Heisman winner, but you didn't mention him. Kaaya is great, but he is a true freshman statue. How about OL? Other than Flowers and McDermot, what big name upper classmen do we have? Deon Bush is great, but Ramsey is a monster.

Okay Here is FSU's line up vs ours based on rivals:

Us

QB: 4* Kaaya: TRUE FRESHMAN who is playing way better than he should be. +1 to the coaches
RB: 5* Duke Johnson: Has met and exceeded expectations his whole career. Good job coaches getting and developing this kid into a workhorse.
FB: 2* Walter Tucker: Has played great this season. Good job finding an athlete and putting him at FB coaches.
WR: 3* Phillip Dorsett: Great for a 3* WR. Fastest WR in the country. Good job coaches making him a complete player.
WR: 4* Stacey Coley: Has regressed this year
WR: 3* Herb Waters: Is solid, but can't quite break out.
TE: 3* Clive Walford: Came in as a poor player, but has become very good. Good job coaches developing this kid.
LT: 4* Erick Flowers: Has been very good, but not great.
LG: 3* Nick Linder: This is telling, we have to start a true freshman 3* LG!!! He's been good though!
C: 3* Shane McDermott: Solid Center. Has consistently gotten better, good job coaches.
RG: 3* Jonathan Feliciano: Solid lineman. Has gotten much better this year. Good job coaches.
RT: 4* Trevor Darling: We have to start another true freshman because of lack of depth and injuries. He is okay right now, but will probably get much better.
DE: 4* Anthony Chickilo: Is solid, but not great. Too slow for DE. Probably should be inside, but is better this year than last.
DE: 4* Tyriq McCord: Is also solid, but not great. Isn't much better than last year IMO, but this may be due to having no DT's.
DT: 3* Calvin Heurtelou: Is an okay gap filling DT.
DT: 3* Olsen Pierre: Is okay, but not athletic enough to be better. Coaches have made both DT's serviceable.
LB: 3* Denzel Perryman: Is a beast. Coaches have made him continually bigger and better.
LB: 4* Raphael Kirby: Is a solid LB. He wasn't good last year, but seems to be improving. Good job coaches.
LB: 0* Thurston Armbrister: Is a feel good story. We were his only offer, but the coaches have made him a good college LB with a chance to make an NFL roster.
S: 4* Deon Bush: Really good player. Seems to be getting better as of late, so coaches are developing him to.
S: 0* Nantumbu Fentress: Our Rudy. Lots of heart, but not much height or talent. Coaches have made him serviceable.
CB: 4* Artie Burns: Good player. Would like to see coaches develop him more though.
CB: 3* Ladarius Gunter: Good player, seems to have plateaued though.

A few things to note about us:

-Now we have 5* Chad Thomas who hasn't been much of a factor b/c he is a true freshman baby, 5* Tracy Howard who is a rotational player, and, and solid 3* corner Anthony Crawford. 4* Jamal Crawford is athletic, but is not a good football player yet. We are also missing 3* Rayshawn Jenkins. 2* Ufomba Kamalu is a solid contributor on the DL as well. 4* Jermaine Grace has gained weight and is on a roll too. Kudos to coaching for this one too. On offense, 4* Joseph Yearby has been solid, but nothing extraordinary yet.
-I didn't account for the kickers. If we switched kickers with FSU, we win easily.
-Player development seems very good minus DL and DB's with the outlier being Stacy Coley.

So in total we have:

5*=3
4*=12
3*=11
2*=2
0*=2

Keep in mind that IMO stars don't mean anything because Golden has our lesser rated players playing as well as FSU's higher rated players. We outgained them and would have won if it were not for the kicking game, a few bad bounces, bad calls, dropped int/td, and Dobard's fumble.

Now for FSU:

QB: 5* Heisman Winner
RB: 5* Karlos Williams
RB: 5* Dalvin Cook
WR: 5* Travis Rudolph
WR: 3* Jesus Wilson
WR: 4* Rashad Greene
WR: 5* Ermon Lane
TE: 4* Nick O' Leary
LT: 4* True Freshman Roderick Johnson
LG: 4* Josue Matias
C: 3* Cameron Irving
RG: 3* Tre Jackson
RT: 4* Bobby Hart
DE: 3* Lorenzo Featherston
DE: 5* Mario Edwards
DT: 4* Derrick Mitchell
DT: 5* Eddie Goldman
LB: 4* Chris Casher
LB: 3* Terrance Smith
LB: 4* Reggie Northrup
CB: 4* Ronald Darby (Sucks)
CB: 4* P.J. Williams
S: 3* Tyler Hunter
S: 5* Jalen Ramsey

So, without even counting FSU's "role" players like I did for us, FSU has:

5*=8 (vs our 3)
4*=10
3*=6

Note, I think we are about equal to FSU in terms of how our players are actually playing. We were just as good the other night, but made too many mistakes to beat a team that is so talented and USED TO WINNING WITH THE HEISMAN WINNER AT QB!!! Note the talent difference at DT and remember FSU's best DT, 4* Niles Lawerence-Stample is out for the year.
 
One play I would love to see with how many screens we have called the past two seasons to Coley is a fake screen with one of the "blockers" running vertical. Okie St. hit this on FSU week 1 for a TD and with our history I think we could have pulled it off.
 
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so they are vastly underachieving their talent as the #1 team in the country currently in both polls? is something wrong with you? Just because a bunch of freshman came in over the off season highly recruited, you think that means a young inexperienced team like FSU is suppose to blow out teams like they did last year, every year? seriously is something wrong with you?

On paper smh terrible what does on paper mean? Bama lost to Ole Miss, are they vastly underachieving based on their talent? Auburn lost a couple what about them? or is it just because its FSU you like to make up things?

Do you even have a clue? Do you even understand that half of the recruiting rankings are based on quantity not quality? Do you think that because Miami's overall made up recruiting ranking based on that website is 20th between 2010-2013 that means UM's ceiling is 20th? like i said ppl like you who hold on to bs to make excuses like this are an embarrassment to me as a UM fan. smh

Nothing wrong with me, but there's clearly a literacy issue with you. Go back and read what I wrote. I guess it all goes back to the thinking critically thing you mentioned initially. I can. You can't.

I know what you are saying clearly. You said Miami's current record cant be helped because we have 6-4 talent on the roster and Golden did the best he could do with what he had to work with against such a juggernaut as this current FSU team. smh

Also you are saying that FSU is "vastly underachieving" on paper even though they are undefeated and are currently ranked #1 in both AP and coaches polls, which also makes no sense in reality. that article you linked didnt prove your point either.

Line up the depth charts of both FSU and Miamis and please show me the proof that Golden did the best he could do?

Aside from all of that i see this is the 2nd time someone has referenced 2001 Miami in comparisons of this FSU team. Are you drunk? Miami's 2009 team can beat this current FSU team and it's sad to even see the day that UM fans are looking at FSU as if they have a team anywhere near Miami's roster from 2000-04. smh sad

Show me where I said "You said Miami's current record cant be helped because we have 6-4 talent on the roster and Golden did the best he could do with what he had to work with". I'll wait. You'd have to be a complete illiterate to get that out of what I've written.

The article I linked proves that F$U's talent level, ON PAPER, is far better than ours. They are undefeated because they have far more talent than anyone else they're playing. Jimbo is a terrible coach, just like Coker was a terrible coach. Our 2001 team should not have been struggling to beat some of the teams it struggled to beat, and F$U should not be struggling to beat us and NC State and anyone else on their schedule (NOTE: Bama, Oregon, and any other top team are not on their schedule, which I realize confuses the **** out of you).
 
Is there any chance someone ran the wrong route? Also fsu played off majority of the 3rd and 4th quarter unlike the 1st and 2nd quarter.
 
Is there any chance someone ran the wrong route? Also fsu played off majority of the 3rd and 4th quarter unlike the 1st and 2nd quarter.

Someone mentioned above that someone may have run the wrong route. It's a really odd design, so anything is possible, of course.
 
While this was James Coleys best game as our oc (by far imo, the first half was masterfully called), this perfectly shows my gripe with him. There are times when it seems like he over thinks things and ends up making things harder then they need to be. That hitch out combo with Coley and Walford is absolutely idiotic. Those 2 are being used in a way that isn't necessarily the best for them and even if Kaaya wanted to go there that route combo crowds everyone together. Also, and this could be blamed on Kaaya as well but, why would you try and attack Jalen Ramsey at the most critical part of the game? That play looked like it was designed to go to Dorsett. Ramsey on your primary + man under= check to something else.

Imo Lu is spot on in what they should have done. Only thing I'd do is go for Walford. Motion him to show man under and just let him work the middle of the field. No reason to complicate things at that moment, stick to your bread and butter.

Right now, 90% of the time, Kaaya is a rhythm passer. It's completely understandable. He's 19 and seeing a lot of things for the first time. We're really lucky he's as smooth as he is and has so many tools in place that, if the play design is strong, he'll simply execute it. In the future, I'd expect him to improvise on that play a bit. For now, I'm going to wonder for a while why we didn't adjust to their coverages in the second half and allowed them to dictate to us. I was waiting for Tucker in the flats pretty much the entire second half. It never came.

Some people think "aggressive" and immediately go to see whether we passed the ball or if we passed the ball downfield. I say "aggressive" and I'm talking about dictating to the defense. It doesn't have to be stretching them vertically. It means keep countering and stay in control of the flow. Hit the flats and stretch them out horizontally. Kill those LBs who were so vulnerable. I'll give Coley credit on one play that stood out in my mind: somewhere in the second half, we setup a play for Yearby to seemingly chip and release. He was *wide ****ing open*, but the ball got batted down. That's credit to Coley and inexperience on Kaaya.

One problem Coley had was a rhythm passer out of rhythm.

I believe the Yearby play was on the first down of the last drive, but could be wrong. Was it followed by the Yearby one yarder forcing 3rd and 9?

http://hurricanesports.com/pdf9/2976796.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=28700
Play by play starts on page 9.
 
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Is there any chance someone ran the wrong route? Also fsu played off majority of the 3rd and 4th quarter unlike the 1st and 2nd quarter.

Someone mentioned above that someone may have run the wrong route. It's a really odd design, so anything is possible, of course.

Here we are, middle of November and guys are either running the wrong routes or the corches have no ******* clue.

Either way. The results are the same.

It's sad that no one is around to either take responsibility or force those that should be taking responsibility for these failures to task.
 
Nice post but the analyst was wrong. Great play call by Jame Coley but terrible execution by Brad Kayaa. The Dorsett route took 3 defenders with him. Kayaa made the wrong read. All he had to do was allow his underneath routes to open up.

The play designed cleared the entire middle of the field. This is where Brad must improve. Stacey does not get many catches because Brad never allows the play to develop. If Brad simply allowed Stacey to clear the defense he would have big plays.

Also a terrible route ran by Waters. The DB lined up wrong and all he had to do was sale the deep route and stick his cut across the filed and he would have been wide open.
 
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The first half was a thing of beauty, not sure Coley could've called a better game. The 2nd half we wanted to kill the clock with run game and weren't aggressive enough in the passing game.

We ran more in the first half than we did in the second half. The run was actually working a bit in the second half as we were averaging over 4 ypc.
Kaaya threw 17 times in each half, only completing 6 in the second half. Batted balls obviously hurt us.
 
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Great breakdown of the final play.

Although it seems there was no chance for that play to succeed, all we needed was only one of three or four other plays to go our way to get that win Saturday night.
 
Nice post but the analyst was wrong. Great play call by Jame Coley but terrible execution by Brad Kayaa. The Dorsett route took 3 defenders with him. Kayaa made the wrong read. All he had to do was allow his underneath routes to open up.

The play designed cleared the entire middle of the field. This is where Brad must improve. Stacey does not get many catches because Brad never allows the play to develop. If Brad simply allowed Stacey to clear the defense he would have big plays.

Also a terrible route ran by Waters. The DB lined up wrong and all he had to do was sale the deep route and stick his cut across the filed and he would have been wide open.

What in the heck are you talking about? Stacy to clear what? DB didn't line up wrong on Waters. How do you "sell" the deep route when you're running a designed quick in? Walford was smothered.
 
Nice post but the analyst was wrong. Great play call by Jame Coley but terrible execution by Brad Kayaa. The Dorsett route took 3 defenders with him. Kayaa made the wrong read. All he had to do was allow his underneath routes to open up.

The play designed cleared the entire middle of the field. This is where Brad must improve. Stacey does not get many catches because Brad never allows the play to develop. If Brad simply allowed Stacey to clear the defense he would have big plays.

Also a terrible route ran by Waters. The DB lined up wrong and all he had to do was sale the deep route and stick his cut across the filed and he would have been wide open.

What in the heck are you talking about? Stacy to clear what? DB didn't line up wrong on Waters. How do you "sell" the deep route when you're running a designed quick in? Walford was smothered.

You've been trolled Lu
 
Nice post but the analyst was wrong. Great play call by Jame Coley but terrible execution by Brad Kayaa. The Dorsett route took 3 defenders with him. Kayaa made the wrong read. All he had to do was allow his underneath routes to open up.

The play designed cleared the entire middle of the field. This is where Brad must improve. Stacey does not get many catches because Brad never allows the play to develop. If Brad simply allowed Stacey to clear the defense he would have big plays.

Also a terrible route ran by Waters. The DB lined up wrong and all he had to do was sale the deep route and stick his cut across the filed and he would have been wide open.

What in the heck are you talking about? Stacy to clear what? DB didn't line up wrong on Waters. How do you "sell" the deep route when you're running a designed quick in? Walford was smothered.

That was your standard read route. The DB lined up on Waters wrong and he should have made him pay for it. If Brad would have waited he has waters streaking wide open and that was the reason Waters was so upset after the play. Kayaa went the wrong way.

It was a great play call because either the safety and LB jumps the underneath routes leaving Dorsett man to man on the post or the jump the post leaving the entire middle of the field open. FSU jumped the Dorsett route and if brad had waited he had Waters wide open.

Stacy is having a bad year because his QB simply does not throw it to him. Brad does not like to stand in the pocket at the point in his career. Stacy is open a lot but brad likes the underneath routes
 
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