The Franchise said:

jkaz1 said:

Our CBs showed more noticeable improvement than the safeties. I'm far more confident in Rumph's coaching ability than Banda's at this point.....

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How do you go about quantifying that, friend?

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pretty obvious

I gotta lean with gogeta the first time i heard Rumph speak real talk i was like yo this cat boring as fuq......I dont know him only from what we see on camera n media **** so im judging by that maybe im wrong but i had that same feel. Dugans is the exact opposite and banda......I think MR will improve though but its true u have to wait till NSD to know know for sure if hes on the right track

KrazyCane said:

The Franchise said:

jkaz1 said:

Our CBs showed more noticeable improvement than the safeties. I'm far more confident in Rumph's coaching ability than Banda's at this point.....

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How do you go about quantifying that, friend?

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pretty obvious

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when your front 7 is as good as our dbs will look better regardless, the three lbs and the scheme with our line made it beneficial to be a CB (Elder is a stud still regardless)

pretty soon it will be Corn elder was a one legged..cross eyed..autistic before Rumph got here. And ColbertSON was Rumph Made as well, he once had Brad Kayaa speed but with Rumph tutelage became sub 4.4.

Corn Elder imo was our best cb **** near the last 3 years..even better than 1st rounder Artie Burns that year...BEFORE Rumph got here. Dont know what some of the fans were watching if they had him as a marginal player before Rumph.

Again im liking the work with Malek Young, pay attention to that moving forward and how Michael Jackson progresses.

gogeta4 said:

KrazyCane said:

gogeta4 said:

nvlahos said:

Give Rumph 1 or 2 more years and he's going to be our Corey Raymond

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naw...he isnt that charasmatic and doesnt have bags like raymond..do your research.

I also see that some of you have already crowneed him as coach of the year. Jury is still out for me as he is learning everything in my opinion. And last year he coached 2 Seniors as starters (im not giving much credit there), Did a gob job with havin Malik Young ready though. Im not crowning yet...ive seen this movie before. Again...Rumph is technically GA level..with some of our GA's having more coaching experience than him. He's learning on the job, lets watch him grow before going crazy

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LMAO hilarious / you should really just keep it to recruiting evaluations

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please tell me his coaching resume?. That surpasses GA level of coaching. Its not a diss..thats where these guys start..he just jumped the line as a glorified one..while coaching just the cb units. Kareem Brown is one..he **** sure could be coaching someonesd dline right now. Im just saying..? which one of yall have actually been around him coaching?...seen something? let me know. What made you say...yea he is a beast of a coach?.

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So you've been around Rumph?

gogeta4 said:

pretty soon it will be Corn elder was a one legged..cross eyed..autistic before Rumph got here. And ColbertSON was Rumph Made as well, he once had Brad Kayaa speed but with Rumph tutelage became sub 4.4.

Corn Elder imo was our best cb **** near the last 3 years..even better than 1st rounder Artie Burns that year...BEFORE Rumph got here. Dont know what some of the fans were watching if they had him as a marginal player before Rumph.

Again im liking the work with Malek Young, pay attention to that moving forward and how Michael Jackson progresses.

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lol let it go, Corn Elder was a good cornerback before Rumph got here, but Rumph made him better, the system made him better as well how is that a knock on Rumph?? you think if Paul Williams was still here we would still see the same level of progress across the board ALL bc of the system change???

And why is Rumph the only coach in the entire country that is only doing a good job bc of the system he's coaching in?? yall sound ridiculous nobody is "crowning Rumph" like he's ready to be an NFL head coach but he is a position coach thats doing a better job than most at coaching up the position he has been hired to coach.

lol at these weak arguments yall just some fckn haters

RHCanes said:

TheToadSage said:

In 2 years our starting secondary could look like Blades and Campbell at corner with Jobe n Hall at safety......... let that marinate

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Campbell is not a future canes! He is going to Clemson or LSU! Jobe
will most likely flip in early 2018!

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Awww must be hard being a Gator....not even Milton wants to commit....

Rumphs work right now is to be commended but he won't get a crown until his players start earning AA's honors and his CB are bad to the bone/solid year in and year out. Then, if his guys go on to make noise in the NFL his prowess will become irrefutable will tell.

I've only met the guy a couple times on his recruiting visits and had short conversation. Not enough to claim he's not charismatic. He may be a bit more reserved but I can definitely see what makes Mom's comfortable and confident in trusting him. That to me is most important. I would send my students to play for him in a heartbeat and that isn't because I'm a cane. Simply a genuine guy. I ain't ready to crown him either but I give recognition where it's deserved, our cbs improved period.

Very true. It's not an accident that almost our entire secondary was filled with All-Americans during the '01 / '02 timeframe....

Dwinstitles said:

KrazyCane said:

The Franchise said:

jkaz1 said:

Our CBs showed more noticeable improvement than the safeties. I'm far more confident in Rumph's coaching ability than Banda's at this point.....

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How do you go about quantifying that, friend?

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pretty obvious

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when your front 7 is as good as our dbs will look better regardless, the three lbs and the scheme with our line made it beneficial to be a CB (Elder is a stud still regardless)

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Yep. As with anyone else with a job, the "report card" is an on-going one....

PAR said:

Rumphs work right now is to be commended but he won't get a crown until his players start earning AA's honors and his CB are bad to the bone/solid year in and year out. Then, if his guys go on to make noise in the NFL his prowess will become irrefutable will tell.

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In 2015 Colbert was a safety at Texas who got beat by a Freshman for his starting spot. In 2016, he was a starting CB at Miami attributing his smooth transition to CB to Rumph. And this past Thanksgiving, he was giving thanks for Coach Rumph:



That does not mean Rumph is the Coach Kool of CBs (that man has an indisputable resume), but neither should it be dismissed as meaningless.

As far as the system making CBs better, or the coaches making CBs better, or their surrounding teammates making CBs better, or their maturity making them better, any argument for any one of these things is circular and pointless. There are so many variables involved that it's not easy to single out any one thing and say "that's why the DBs played well, and definitely not Coach Rumph." The truth is all of these factors (scheme, coaching, maturity) contribute to making a unit play better on the field.

And anyone who says it's all coaching is acting just as narrow-minded as anyone saying it's all scheme, and vice-versa.

gogeta4 said:

nvlahos said:

Give Rumph 1 or 2 more years and he's going to be our Corey Raymond

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naw...he isnt that charasmatic and doesnt have bags like raymond..do your research.

I also see that some of you have already crowneed him as coach of the year. Jury is still out for me as he is learning everything in my opinion. And last year he coached 2 Seniors as starters (im not giving much credit there), Did a gob job with havin Malik Young ready though. Im not crowning yet...ive seen this movie before. Again...Rumph is technically GA level..with some of our GA's having more coaching experience than him. He's learning on the job, lets watch him grow before going crazy

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:q3XKXeX:

Keep Silvera.
Lock down Campbell (don't care about Jobe, his fate will be out of Rumph's hands).
Continue to improve Young and integrate Dean and Delaney.

Then he will have earned his stripes.

gogeta4 said:

KrazyCane said:

gogeta4 said:

nvlahos said:

Give Rumph 1 or 2 more years and he's going to be our Corey Raymond

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naw...he isnt that charasmatic and doesnt have bags like raymond..do your research.

I also see that some of you have already crowneed him as coach of the year. Jury is still out for me as he is learning everything in my opinion. And last year he coached 2 Seniors as starters (im not giving much credit there), Did a gob job with havin Malik Young ready though. Im not crowning yet...ive seen this movie before. Again...Rumph is technically GA level..with some of our GA's having more coaching experience than him. He's learning on the job, lets watch him grow before going crazy

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LMAO hilarious / you should really just keep it to recruiting evaluations

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please tell me his coaching resume?. That surpasses GA level of coaching. Its not a diss..thats where these guys start..he just jumped the line as a glorified one..while coaching just the cb units. Kareem Brown is one..he **** sure could be coaching someonesd dline right now. Im just saying..? which one of yall have actually been around him coaching?...seen something? let me know. What made you say...yea he is a beast of a coach?.

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During his three seasons as head coach, Rumph guided the Patriots to three straight Florida High School Athletic Association (FHSAA) state playoff appearances and compiled an overall record of 39-6 in one of Florida’s most competitive districts.

Rumph wasted little time making his mark on the local high school coaching scene, as his 2013 and 2014 squads claimed 5A FHSAA State Championships, defeating its opponents by a combined score of 104-8 in the final game. American Heritage became just the second school in Broward County history to win back-to-back state football championships.

In 2013 and 2014, Rumph was recognized for his work on the sidelines as he was selected as a coach for the U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio.

Before taking over as the head coach at American Heritage, Rumph served as the team’s defensive coordinator for two seasons.

In addition, Rumph served as the boys and girls track and field head coach. In 2011, his boys and girls track and field teams captured the state championship. Following the year, Rumph was named the 2011 Miami Herald Track and Field Coach of the Year.

As a player at the University of Miami, Rumph earned all-conference honors during his junior and senior seasons. As a senior, Rumph finished with 117 tackles and six interceptions as he helped the Hurricanes to the 2001 National Championship.

Following the 2001 campaign, Rumph was selected in the first round of the 2002 NFL Draft with the 27th overall selection by the San Francisco 49ers. He played four seasons in San Francisco before concluding his pro career in 2006 with the Washington Redskins.

How may grad assistant coaches have a resume like this? What line did he jump?

Go stick to lineman.... you tried to compare KB to rumph... you falling off with that comment.

jkaz1 said:

Very true. It's not an accident that almost our entire secondary was filled with All-Americans during the '01 / '02 timeframe....

Dwinstitles said:

KrazyCane said:

The Franchise said:

jkaz1 said:

Our CBs showed more noticeable improvement than the safeties. I'm far more confident in Rumph's coaching ability than Banda's at this point.....

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How do you go about quantifying that, friend?

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pretty obvious

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when your front 7 is as good as our dbs will look better regardless, the three lbs and the scheme with our line made it beneficial to be a CB (Elder is a stud still regardless)

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Having a better front 7 makes DBs tackle better?

Mahoney-Pearson said:

jkaz1 said:

Very true. It's not an accident that almost our entire secondary was filled with All-Americans during the '01 / '02 timeframe....

Dwinstitles said:

KrazyCane said:

The Franchise said:

How do you go about quantifying that, friend?

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pretty obvious

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when your front 7 is as good as our dbs will look better regardless, the three lbs and the scheme with our line made it beneficial to be a CB (Elder is a stud still regardless)

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Having a better front 7 makes DBs tackle better?

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Cause disruption and throws aren't accurate so tackles come easier. They did tackle better but tackling isn't rocket science I mean get there and wrap up or blast the dude. With golden u sitting in that soft *** done allowing space for dudes to makes moves now guys r in better spots

The Franchise said:

Some of these dudes are raw simps. UM gets a couple DB commits. Rumph is now a great recruiter.

Senior DBs play well. Rumph is a great coach.

Let's see what he does with his son, Campbell, and some other guys who weren't automatic to UM. And let's see what he does with a new group of CBs.

You simps act like the success or failure of the CBs isn't directly tied to the rest of the defense or the scheme Diaz is running. More pressure equals easier to cover. You can have the same exact CB playing in Doritos' system and playing in Diaz's system, and the CB in Diaz's system is going to suddenly look way better.

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But I thought Diaz was Dorito 2.0?

Dwinstitles said:

Mahoney-Pearson said:

jkaz1 said:

Very true. It's not an accident that almost our entire secondary was filled with All-Americans during the '01 / '02 timeframe....

Dwinstitles said:

KrazyCane said:

pretty obvious

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when your front 7 is as good as our dbs will look better regardless, the three lbs and the scheme with our line made it beneficial to be a CB (Elder is a stud still regardless)

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Having a better front 7 makes DBs tackle better?

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Cause disruption and throws aren't accurate so tackles come easier. They did tackle better but tackling isn't rocket science I mean get there and wrap up or blast the dude. With golden u sitting in that soft *** done allowing space for dudes to makes moves now guys r in better spots

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Sure, it's not rocket science but we had trouble with it when randy was here as well. This team had been unable to do little things that are matters of practice and focus for years, so I wouldn't understate what it says about the coaching that players seem to be able to do them now.