Media votes Miami ACC Coastal Favorites

Jul 23, 2018

Miami will enter the season as the favorite to successfully defend their ACC Coastal title from last season, according to members of the media.

With 122 of 148 first place votes, the Canes are the clear-cut frontrunners for their second division title. The Virginia Tech Hokies are considered their primary competition with 16 first place votes, followed by GT (8) and Duke (1). UNC also scored a first place vote as well.

The media is also predicting an ACC Championship rematch by giving Clemson the edge in the Atlantic, as the Tigers sewed up all but 4 first place votes on the other side of the conference. The Tigers lead the way in votes to win the ACC as well, scoring 139, followed by Miami (5), NC State (2), Florida State (1), and Virginia Tech (1).

Atlantic Division

(First place votes in parenthesis)

1. Clemson (144) – 1,030

2. Florida State (1) – 789

3. NC State (2) – 712

4. Boston College – 545

5. Louisville – 422

6. Wake Forest (1) – 414

7. Syracuse – 232

ACC Championship Votes

1. Clemson – 139

2. Miami – 5

3. NC State – 2

T4. Florida State – 1

T4. Virginia Tech – 1

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UMFarArcher

Jul 23, 2018

Lil Bryant 305 said:
That BC game will be interesting

That one has me a bit worried.

And this time last year - I was also worried about Pitt. Sure as **** stinks . . .

FrancisSawyer

Jul 24, 2018

Once we get the QB position stabilized and add more OL depth, this team is going to be a real motherf***er for other teams to go against.

Loose Cannon

Jul 24, 2018

ThomasG954 said:
Who picked Duke...

Fvck that. Who picked Wake Forest?

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Mark Little

Jul 24, 2018

scrantoncane said:
This seems to be the consensus on the board and I don’t understand it. They had top 5 classes the past 4-5 years. I don’t follow them that closely, but on paper they are loaded. I don’t see why they won’t challenge for the Atlantic.

My take on it is pretty simple.

Who's their quarterback? Either a guy who hasn't played a full game since December 2016 or a 170 lbs Sophomore who wasn't ready to play under a very good QB coach in Jimbo Fisher. And neither of these options are good fits for Willie Taggart's offense.

I also don't think they're loaded. They went 7-6 last year and lost 6 players early to the draft. Which means that all of their draft eligible juniors decided to get out of dodge.

Their offensive line is going to be porous and their defense is swiss cheese compared to even last year.

And their coaching staff isn't even remotely impressive. They have a 34 year old offensive coordinator who 8 years ago was a grad assistant at a G5 school.

Chard

Jul 24, 2018

g8rh8rMD said:
John Swofford. Hope he doesn't know something we don't...

Swofford is an UNC alum. No way he would vote Duke if he was a media voter.

scrantoncane

Jul 24, 2018

Mark Little said:
My take on it is pretty simple.

Mark Little said:

My take on it is pretty simple.

Who's their quarterback? Either a guy who hasn't played a full game since December 2016 or a 170 lbs Sophomore who wasn't ready to play under a very good QB coach in Jimbo Fisher. And neither of these options are good fits for Willie Taggart's offense.

I also don't think they're loaded. They went 7-6 last year and lost 6 players early to the draft. Which means that all of their draft eligible juniors decided to get out of dodge.

Their offensive line is going to be porous and their defense is swiss cheese compared to even last year.

And their coaching staff isn't even remotely impressive. They have a 34 year old offensive coordinator who 8 years ago was a grad assistant at a G5 school.

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Who's their quarterback? Either a guy who hasn't played a full game since December 2016 or a 170 lbs Sophomore who wasn't ready to play under a very good QB coach in Jimbo Fisher. And neither of these options are good fits for Willie Taggart's offense.

I also don't think they're loaded. They went 7-6 last year and lost 6 players early to the draft. Which means that all of their draft eligible juniors decided to get out of dodge.

Their offensive line is going to be porous and their defense is swiss cheese compared to even last year.

And their coaching staff isn't even remotely impressive. They have a 34 year old offensive coordinator who 8 years ago was a grad assistant at a G5 school.

Unproven maybe. But you don’t think they have their own Gerald Willis’ and Evidence Njoku’s that their board is hype about?

All I’m saying is we shouldn’t overlook them. It’ll be a war as usual when we play them. I couldn’t care less how they perform outside of that game.

Colombie

Jul 24, 2018

scrantoncane said:
This seems to be the consensus on the board and I don’t understand it. They had top 5 classes the past 4-5 years. I don’t follow them that closely, but on paper they are loaded. I don’t see why they won’t challenge for the Atlantic.

I hear what you are saying. I don't think they re going to suck.

However, I don't know how good they can be. Their QB situation is up in the air. The have a new coaching philosophy and system which always take some time to adapt to. Their OL seems like it is not going to be much better than last season, they don't have any proven WRs to be afraid of, and they are replacing all their LBs.
I think they will lose 3-4 games based on all that uncertainty.

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Mark Little

Jul 24, 2018

scrantoncane said:
Unproven maybe. But you don’t think they have their own Gerald Willis’ and Evidence Njoku’s that their board is hype about?

Even the Ministry of Propaganda, Warchant, says that their offensive line is a weakness.

So new head coach with losing record, new 34 year old offensive coordinator, unknown at quarterback and a weak offensive line?

That screams disaster.

If Taggart goes even 8-4 it would be a great season.

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Jul 24, 2018

FSU is an enigma. On paper, they should be challenging Clemson for the Atlantic but in reality, that's a pipe dream. Jimbob loaded that roster with 4 and 5 star players but it seems like FSU has the highest bust percentage of all the big time recruiting schools. A bunch of good individuals doesn't always equal a good team. Plus Taggert is installing an offense that's lightyears away from the pro system that Fisher ran. Their quarterbacks are decent athletes but not the run first, zone read guys that Taggert prefers. They lost a lot of experience on defense and while the replacements were all highly ranked recruits, most of them have done absolutely nothing on the field. I will say that Taggert's offense will mask some of the o-line problems. They'll still struggle against the elite D-lines but they should be able to out finesse most of the league.

brock

Jul 24, 2018

DTP said:
FSU is an enigma. On paper, they should be challenging Clemson for the Atlantic but in reality, that's a pipe dream. Jimbob loaded that roster with 4 and 5 star players but it seems like FSU has the highest bust percentage of all the big time recruiting schools. A bunch of good individuals doesn't always equal a good team. Plus Taggert is installing an offense that's lightyears away from the pro system that Fisher ran. Their quarterbacks are decent athletes but not the run first, zone read guys that Taggert prefers. They lost a lot of experience on defense and while the replacements were all highly ranked recruits, most of them have done absolutely nothing on the field. I will say that Taggert's offense will mask some of the o-line problems. They'll still struggle against the elite D-lines but they should be able to out finesse most of the league.

Their player development has been severely lacking. They may have had better recruiting rankings the last 3 years or so but when you actually break it down Miami has more talent and the difference in development is evident. Miami is more talented and have more depth at more positions than FSU has over Miami.

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Mark Little

Jul 24, 2018

Colombie said:
I think they will lose 3-4 games based on all that uncertainty.

If they go 8-4 or 9-3, Taggart should be up for Coach of the Year.

Taggart's record in first year at a new job:

2-10
2-10
7-6

He's inheriting a 7-6 team that hemorrhaged graduating seniors and draft eligible juniors in the offseason.

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Mark Little

Jul 24, 2018

DTP said:
They'll still struggle against the elite D-lines but they should be able to out finesse most of the league.

See, I think that even their "easy" ACC games will be dog fights.

Syracuse at the Dome for first road game? Dog fight. Wake Forest under Dave Clawson? Dog fight.

Those two teams almost beat FSU last year.

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LPK2006

Jul 24, 2018

On paper, Miami absolutely should be the Coastal favorites. The problem is, in reality, the games against these teams are never really as easy as we'd like them to be. They should all be wins, yes, but I'm not comfortable calling for a blowout in a single one of them. If we use last year as a barometer, this team has proven that it can blow a decent team out at home, when highly motivated, but it's also proven that it can lose to a terrible Pitt team, and nearly lose to an even worse UNC team.

ACC officiating also makes games a lot more, shall we say, "interesting" than they probably should be.

Captain Uberpants

Jul 24, 2018

DTP said:
FSU is an enigma. On paper, they should be challenging Clemson for the Atlantic but in reality, that's a pipe dream. Jimbob loaded that roster with 4 and 5 star players but it seems like FSU has the highest bust percentage of all the big time recruiting schools. A bunch of good individuals doesn't always equal a good team. Plus Taggert is installing an offense that's lightyears away from the pro system that Fisher ran. Their quarterbacks are decent athletes but not the run first, zone read guys that Taggert prefers. They lost a lot of experience on defense and while the replacements were all highly ranked recruits, most of them have done absolutely nothing on the field. I will say that Taggert's offense will mask some of the o-line problems. They'll still struggle against the elite D-lines but they should be able to out finesse most of the league.

Lot of 5 star busts from them (prime example is Malik Henry who also happens to be a 5 star douche). They seemed to recruit rankings instead of evaluations.

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gacaneaddict

Jul 24, 2018

Boston College is probably the 2nd best team in the Atlantic.

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jw410

Jul 24, 2018

scrantoncane said:
This seems to be the consensus on the board and I don’t understand it. They had top 5 classes the past 4-5 years. I don’t follow them that closely, but on paper they are loaded. I don’t see why they won’t challenge for the Atlantic.

No Wr's and Te's can't throw to the RB's all game

Colombie

Jul 25, 2018

Mark Little said:
If they go 8-4 or 9-3, Taggart should be up for Coach of the Year.

Taggart's record in first year at a new job:

2-10
2-10
7-6

He's inheriting a 7-6 team that hemorrhaged graduating seniors and draft eligible juniors in the offseason.

They can also lose 5, 6, 7 games.

F$U's Defensive talent is still very good and their special teams are also solid so I think they can do better than 7-6 but it all depends on factors we just don't know about in July. The biggest factor being the QB situation.

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Mark Little

Jul 25, 2018

Colombie said:
They can also lose 5, 6, 7 games.

F$U's Defensive talent is still very good and their special teams are also solid so I think they can do better than 7-6 but it all depends on factors we just don't know about in July. The biggest factor being the QB situation.

Absolutely.

I think 5 losses is the best bet.

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Media votes Miami ACC Coastal Favorites

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