Can he recruit and will he command the respect of the guys hes coaching? If he does those things it will be a successful hire. Hes been around football his whole life I'm sure he can handle coaching RBs.

Golden must feel extremely confident about his chances to have a great season (ACC title, 10+ wins) if he's hiring greenhorns on offense. That's what I infer from all this.

It's Year 3, so there's extra pressure on these hires to work out. He's had a chance to air out the Shannon laundry for a couple years and bring in his own players, so now it's time to produce results.


No excuses.

****...was looking forward to Lockett and the dade street cred he'd bring

Cane18 said:

Terrible move Terrible Recruting Class This Program Is Moving In The Wrong Direction.

If Coker or Shannon hired Brown for this position, people would be going nuts.

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Clueless

UM2020 said:

Cane18 said:

Terrible move Terrible Recruting Class This Program Is Moving In The Wrong Direction.

If Coker or Shannon hired Brown for this position, people would be going nuts.

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Clueless

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Perhaps, but then Coker or Shannon don't - or didn't- have a track record of hiring coaches that are coveted by other big programs or the NFL.

That's kinda of a big distinction...

weownfsu said:

Cane18 said:

Terrible move Terrible Recruting Class This Program Is Moving In The Wrong Direction.

If Coker or Shannon hired Brown for this position, people would be going nuts.

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I know you're nothing but a troll, but that's because Coker and Shannon had no clue how to pick assistants, while Golden has shown that he is very astute at it. Golden's first 3 assistants to leave all have better jobs now than they did at Miami. Coker had mass firings and Shannon had to fire his first 2 coordinators. So it makes sense that if Coker or Shannon picked an assistant, he likely sucked.

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This is all true, so I will give Golden the benefit of the doubt. I am just skeptical.

Golden knows this is a huge year for him and the program so I'm willing to reserve judgement and have to believe he feels Hurlie can coach up the backs.

curious to see what D$ says about this. he knows him well...

Cribby said:

You'd be shocked if you knew how many coaches played different positions then they coach . Better yet how many ended up on opposite sides of the ball. If you been around football as long as these coaches have then you know " football".

Position coaches are way overrated anyways, especially rb and wr.

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This. This. This.

Golden was a TE, coached LB and was a DC.

Urban Meyer was a DB and coached TE, WR, LB, and QBs.

Belichick was an OL, coached WR, LB, DB, and was a DC.

The list goes on and on. Not to mention the numerous coaches who never even played college ball. You either know football or you don't.

jmbflame21 said:

Hope this doesn't upset our relationship with Lockette and Bennett

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Cool, then we should never interview multiple candidates for fear of that. Which would be pathetic. Like, dont recruit other DT's we wouldnt want to upset KB...

weownfsu said:

So much stupid whining. You know who never coached RB's or even offense before he became RB's coach at UM? Don Soldinger.

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You must stop with facts. We must let panic and idiocy rule. We must allow comparisons from Al's hires (all then moving on and up in stature) to Randy/Larry's (all disasters,moving down to hS or nothing again). It's all the same. What is this logic you speak of?

I don't understand the mentality of some that are worried because "he never coached running backs before".

All of these coaches aren't coaching in a vacuum, they are all around each other discussing all facets of football. The offensive coordinator talks to the running backs coach about his running game philosophy, the running backs coach discusses with the wide receivers coach about route running, and so on and so forth. My point is that position coaches interact with each other and are not in some bubble where they only focus on their position. In fact, it is beneficial for a coach to know as much about other positions as possible to make them a better coach for their position. A running back coach must know about receiving and blocking for instance since running backs also perform those tasks.

I'm sure Brown has been around Richardson and the rest of the staff and learned about coaching running backs as well other positions. He was the director of football operations for goodness sakes. Furthermore, I am sure that Brown, who I have no doubt already has some knowledge of the running back position, will take whatever steps necessary to learn what he needs to in order to be an effective running backs coach. I also trust Golden to hire good coaches and I'm sure he is obviously 100% comfortable with this hire.

I believe that the most important thing when it comes to coaching, specifically at the position level, is the ability to effectively communicate with your players. A coach can have all the technical knowledge in the world but if he cannot effectively communicate this knowledge to the players in a manner that they can grasp, then what good is all the knowledge? I want good teachers out of a position coach. It is much easier for the coach to learn the techniques of a position than it is for a coach to learn to be a great teacher/communicator.

I am more worried about Brown being a great teacher than I am about him not ever being a running backs coach because he can acquire all the technical knowledge he needs.

I don't get the why people wouldn't want a coach that coached the position he will coach before coming to UM.

I don't get the why people shoot this theory (experience before coaching at UM) down as if it was a stupid idea.

Lock the thread because there is a GREY AREA and people don't understand it exists.

Great move...we need more Canes from the glory days on staff, especially ones that can recruit the area. Golden gets it.

I like this hire much more than bringing in a guy like Lockette. You definitely want a guy that has been on the road recruiting before, that's why I preferred Irvin over Lockette to begin with. I do think the Football Ops position is a much better place to bring in a guy like Lockette. He can stay local and still get exposure to college coaching experience.

Non sequitur.

I'm most nervous about Coley. The rest of this? Don't know what to think. overall, I just hate that Morris has to deal with a new coordinator. He (and we) have a lot on the line with this next season and Jedds departure was MOST unwelcome.

I also find it funny that people are posting that they trust Al in personnel decisions. Are these the same goofs that hate Dorito?? Pfft.......

Congrats to Hurley. Trust in Al as he knows what he is doing.

Consigliere said:

I don't get the why people wouldn't want a coach that coached the position he will coach before coming to UM.

I don't get the why people shoot this theory (experience before coaching at UM) down as if it was a stupid idea.

Lock the thread because there is a GREY AREA and people don't understand it exists.

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I dont think most are saying its a bad idea. I think many are saying its also not a automatic bad idea to not have had the experience, ie Soldinger. And the responses are coming to the sky is falling this is stupid crowd..

Has it occurred to anyone that AG is just tired of assistants come and then move up so quickly because they don't have ties to the program or the city of Miami?
I am thinking that he got Cristobal, Coley and then Hurlie Brown with the idea that they have better chance of staying longer than their predecessors?