Travis, going by your math, lets make it simple. If we are at 85, and have 19 seniors, that means 19 leave and we have 66. We enroll 6 early. That brings us to 72. That leaves us 13. It's as simple as we are at 85, 19 graduate, we can sign 19. A few will transfer, attrition, etc.
Golden has shown he likes be leave a few under the 85, so, again, I'd figure 20-22.
We aren't running off huge numbers, so, stop w that talk.

5XNC said:

Travis, going by your math, lets make it simple. If we are at 85, and have 19 seniors, that means 19 leave and we have 66. We enroll 6 early. That brings us to 72. That leaves us 13. It's as simple as we are at 85, 19 graduate, we can sign 19. A few will transfer, attrition, etc.
Golden has shown he likes be leave a few under the 85, so, again, I'd figure 20-22.
We aren't running off huge numbers, so, stop w that talk.

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I am only dealing with hypotheticals and not dealing with variables of any kind (and I explicitly stated that in my post). But go ahead and keep hammering away if it makes you feel better.

btcane said:

The Rule permits up to 25 per cycle, provided you do not exceed the cap limit of 85.

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Again, I am not looking at roster size, etc. It's pointless to do so right now since we don't know who will qualify, and we don't know who will be on the roster by the time signing day comes around. I am only dealing with a hypothetical situation without any cap on roster limits. It's just a basic way of looking at things, trying to figure out what the MAX number of takes we can allow.

Well, if the Barry Jackson story is true on the FB message board, it looks like EJ is going to be another attrition to take into account.

Stuff like this always happens every year. Kids get kicked off (Finnie, EJ likely), kids quit (JJohnson), kids get asked to graduate or medical hardship (Witt, White), kids transfer (Paul), kids dont qualify (AJL, probably Griffin), kids leave early for the NFL, etc. And it's unpredictable. No one predicted that Witt would have to quit football, Finnie would be caught stealing, or Paul and Golden would part ways.

This is precisely why a class that graduates only 17 seniors in Dec 2013 can still lead to a recruiting class of 24 in Feb of 2014. EJ is just the first drop. We'll see a couple of nonqualifiers in August unfortunately (Griffin and probably at least one other). Then as the season starts, ends, and spring 2014 football starts, we'll see a kid or two leave early for the NFL, a kid will go on medical hardship, another kid will quit the team or transfer, another kid will be asked to graduate, and before you blink, 17 open slots suddenly becomes 23.

Also have to factor in possible scholly reductions which MIGHT be anywhere from 2-8 schollys a year. As well as factoring in loss of total roster spots which could from 2-8 as well. Depends on if the NCAA decides to do whatever they want,which would not be a surprise.

Speculating on this is even more fruitless than predicting where Jaxon Flaxon-Waxon is going to sign come febuary. I really couldn´t give a **** what the numbers tell me now. Mid-Jan this year NOBODY, NOBODY, no Aziz, no DMoney, no Lucane, no Benach, no papii, NOBODY knew how many spots we were going to have 2 weeks later. Right now this disussion is like predicting the lottery 12 months time. But speculating on this isn´t even fun like it is wid the players.