Wyche said coach No D is a mastermind lmao i heard it all

[NVA CANE]

Where did I say anything about the scheme outside of your absurd context that the staff needs four years to implement it?

The idea that it should take four years to get your players in place is dubious, at best.

Finally, even if that were the case, it marks them as failures anyway. They may turn it around, perhaps, but this isn't the kind of business that gives you long life cycles. Especially at a place like Miami. Burning even one season without doing whatever is necessary to win is a serious problem. Their jobs are to win and win now. Not build some obscure ****heap like VT or KSU up to relevance. Failing to note or believe that makes them either too arrogant or simple. Failing to carry through makes them incompetent.

They've already failed as coaches. Whether or not you believe that doesn't affect the reality of it. They may succeed, moving for. ward, but anyone has the right to doubt that. Certainly anyone with eyes and a memory.

It took the the great Narduzzi 5 years to Get the players he needed to turn it around.

Exactly. Narduzzi wouldn't have lasted here, Butch wouldn't have made it through his first few seasons, many good coaches would have been shuffled in and out in a constant rotating door of coaches if it were up to some of the posters on here and their need for immediate gratification.

You lying through your teeth again. At no stage was Narduzzi ever as bad as Dorito. I love how you and klanalmighty make **** up then when given facts walk away from a thread. Just like the soft shouldered ******* you are.

I've yet to see you provide a fact. Just lots of whining, *****ing, pathetic attempts at debate, and at least 50% of the time, some comment about **** sucking. You really are utterly irrelevant.

Says the guy that has yet to post a single fact. Refute his stats. Lulz at how you try to call a poster out for providing stats yet it's right there for you to see and you've yet to post anything of substance, just more golden *** gargling.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Then you're ****ing blind. He posted MSU's defensive results under Narduzzi. Only facts.

And some of you sunshine pumpers had the gall to twist that into a tortured reasoning for equating a proven defensive coach for a failed one.

Even if it -had- taken Narduzzi four years to field a decent defense (it didn't), Sparty is a slightly different program than Miami. There are -slightly- different levels of expectation and access to talent at each.

They have the same access to talent as Michigan and OSU.

Yet they'd be behind both and then add in PSU, Nebraska, and Wisconsin in their conference for the most desirable schools to go to in conference alone. You're working too hard here and looking pretty silly in doing so.

Riddle me this, how has MSU recruited during Al's time here? How about MSU against their peers in conference? Once you have those answers, you'll really be befuddled with those defensive rankings.

The point that is THAT IT TAKES TIME to implement a defensive system and develop and acquire the right personnel to run was the case @ Michigan State under the leadership of Narduzzi the great which took him 5 YEARS. Got it chump?

LMAO, you live in a world of denial don't you... It was 3 years. Keep trying to fight facts.

It took him 5..learn to count.

 

[Biscuits]

Then you're ****ing blind. He posted MSU's defensive results under Narduzzi. Only facts.

And some of you sunshine pumpers had the gall to twist that into a tortured reasoning for equating a proven defensive coach for a failed one.

Even if it -had- taken Narduzzi four years to field a decent defense (it didn't), Sparty is a slightly different program than Miami. There are -slightly- different levels of expectation and access to talent at each.

They have the same access to talent as Michigan and OSU.

The **** they do. Maybe in your world FAU, USF, and Miami all have access to the same talent merely because they all exist in a general geographic footprint, but that doesn't equate to the ability to get talent on campus. MSU doesn't outrecruit Meatchicken or OSU. And yet Narduzzi is fielding better defenses.

That idiotic reply was almost as asinine as your deflection that it took Narduzzi five years to field a top ten defense. Does anyone here think we're fielding a top 10 defense this year? Top 25? Top 50? If so, you're entitled to your opinion. That's fine. But we're equally entitled to ours that AG and Doritoes are hacks, and we'll underpeform again on that side of the ball.

I hope we're wrong. But I'm not counting on it.

 

[BigDikCane]

Our only hope is if Ice can take over the defense..

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Then you're ****ing blind. He posted MSU's defensive results under Narduzzi. Only facts.

And some of you sunshine pumpers had the gall to twist that into a tortured reasoning for equating a proven defensive coach for a failed one.

Even if it -had- taken Narduzzi four years to field a decent defense (it didn't), Sparty is a slightly different program than Miami. There are -slightly- different levels of expectation and access to talent at each.

They have the same access to talent as Michigan and OSU.

The **** they do. Maybe in your world FAU, USF, and Miami all have access to the same talent merely because they all exist in a general geographic footprint, but that doesn't equate to the ability to get talent on campus. MSU doesn't outrecruit Meatchicken or OSU. And yet Narduzzi is fielding better defenses.

That idiotic reply was almost as asinine as your deflection that it took Narduzzi five years to field a top ten defense. Does anyone here think we're fielding a top 10 defense this year? Top 25? Top 50? If so, you're entitled to your opinion. That's fine. But we're equally entitled to ours that AG and Doritoes are hacks, and we'll underpeform again on that side of the ball.

I hope we're wrong. But I'm not counting on it.

Deflecting?? DOn't tell me you can't count as well. It took Narduzzi 5 years to turn around the defense. FACT.

As for FAU and USF having access to the same talent pool,, GTFOH if you want to compare Michigan State and Michigan who play in the same conference and have been playing football since around the same time to FAU and USF who've been playing football for less than 2 decades and play in lower tiered conferences.