Week 8 Stat Roll

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As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition.

Offense:

Yards per play: 49th (5.85 YPP)
Yards per game: 62nd (386.2YPG)
Points per game: 40th (30.2 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 45th (249.6 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 7th (70.4%)
Passing yards per attempt: 29th (8.2 YPA)
Passer rating: 30th (149.7)
Passing TDs: 61st (9 TDs)
Interceptions: 114th (7 INTs)
Rushing yards per game: 80th (136.6 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 86th (3.84 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 48th (10)
Sacks given up per game: 8th (0.8 per game)
First Downs per game: 80th (19.4 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 37th (43.94%)
4th down conversion %: 15th (70%, 7 for 10 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 2nd (3.0 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 21st (72.2% TD rate, 13 TDs in 18 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 18th (17 scores in 18 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (7 for 7)
PAT %: 1st (23 for 23)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 120th (61)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 94th (21)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 75th (10)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 68th (5)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 70th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 71st (1)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 71st (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 16th (4.74 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 19th (311.6 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 12th (16.3 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 58th (218.8 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 25th (58.5%)
Passing yards per attempt: 21st (6.2 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 27th (119.3)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 12th (92.8 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 14th (3.03 YPA)
Sacks per game: 37th (2.4 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 20th (32.39% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 67th (53.85%, opponents 7/13 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 87th (66.7% allowed -- 8 TDs in 12 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 113th (92% allowed -- 11 scores in 12 chances)
Punting: 57th (43.8 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 11th (58)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 12th (16)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 20th (8)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 13th (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 32nd (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 26th (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 130th (8.6 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 110th (66 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 53rd (+0.2 per game -- 8 takeaways, 7 giveaways)
Time of possession: 11th (33:07 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 66 plays per game)

Advanced Metrics:

Total ADJ/EPA per play: 17th
Success Rate %: 6th
Offensive Adj/EPA per play: 37th
Passing EPA/dropback: 43rd
Rushing EPA/rush: 40th
Offensive Success Rate: 13th
Defensive Adj/EPA per play: 17th
Passing Defensive EPA/dropback: 33rd
Rushing Defensive EPA/rush: 11th
Defensive Success Rate: 11th

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Takeaways:

I'll keep this as simple as I can: The offense simply isn't good enough right now to make major noise nationally. It's not completely awful like the 2024 defense, but we're becoming very unbalanced again as an overall operation. The defense is clearly outplaying the offense to this point, and we're not a complementary football team right now. For those of you who tried to tell us all summer that we'd be better or "more efficient" on offense this year, you need to be in a room with padded walls. That was never in the cards. The offense last year was face-melting. The real expectation and hope here was that we could settle maybe somewhere in the 30's on offense, and improve the defense. That would be good enough to win the ACC and make the playoff. The defensive portion has the box checked to this point. The offense, not so much. 40th in points per game. 49th in yards per play. Again, I won't go into X's and O's much here, this is just a look at the numbers, but we're now 80th in rushing and 86th in yards per carry. Completely unacceptable from a team with the supposed best OL in the country. And if your response is just that teams are loading the box and taking away our run game, and to a point I agree with that, then the passing game should be lighting up the sky like a ballistic missile defense system. Beck was sensational against FSU.....not so much against Louisville (although I will say we had more explosives than usual). But Dawson needs to get his **** together, and quickly. I will admit that we *probably* have faced the toughest overall defenses through this point to the season than any other program. Louisville specifically is now up to 6th in EPA/play on defense. We have a much easier road the rest of the way. But I don't care. Again, nobody expects you to be #1 in the country again. And it's ok to have some struggles when you play several good defenses. However, being 80th in rushing is not acceptable. Being in the 40th percentile in explosives is not acceptable. 13 legitimate offensive points, at home, against an ACC school, no matter how good their defense is, is not acceptable. Dawson needs to fix this offense, and fast. Something is amiss, and unless it gets rectified soon, we're going to be in dogfights with teams we should be beating soundly. We're going to roll Stanford on Saturday, but SMU is waiting in 2 weeks. And while I don't think they're very good on defense, they've at least limited the teams they *should* be limiting (Cuse, Stanford, and Clemson with a backup QB all were under 5 yards per play the last 3 weeks). We're not going to win that game scoring 13 points. It's time for everyone to start earning their paychecks on that side of the ball.

On defense, it was a relatively even performance compared to what we've seen all year. This is a very good defense. It's proven it all year, and Friday was no exception. Brohm is one of the best offensive minds in the game (there's a reason he's won 4 games against Top 5 teams), and he had a week to prepare. He came in with a great gameplan, as we expected (I was disappointed with not anticipating the quick throw game...obviously that was going to be what he was going to focus on, but overall, it was solid over the course of 60 minutes). I didn't love going down 14-0, but at the end of the day, 24 points with your offense turning it over 4 times, 5.40 yards per play, and forcing a turnover that sets your team up at the 10 yard line should be good enough to win. We're ranked very high in pretty much every single defensive category. I'm confident, if you paired this with a true Top 30 offense, the defense is good enough to help us make a real run at a national championship. It might not be good enough to fully carry a team there, but we've proven through 6 weeks that we're MUCH improved from last year, and this is a unit good enough to help us achieve our goals. I believe, health provided, at the end of the season, this will be a Top 15 overall defense, which is incredible considering what we watched last year.

Last point is the backbreaking penalties. I usually don't put a massive emphasis on penalties simply because it's not quite the indicator that other metrics are. There have been so many examples of really good, championship-level teams who have poor penalty metrics. Obviously you'd rather be #1 than #120, but if you told me you can be #120 in the country in penalties, or turnover margin, for example...yeah, that's an easy one. You can overcome penalties. The problem is, this team can't, because we're not explosive enough on offense. And they're coming at the worst possible times. Right out of the gate, instead of 3rd and 5 on the first drive, Cici gets a really soft personal foul, but it's still 15 yards, and it's now 3rd and 20. Drive over. That just completely kills a drive in one motion. And just as bad, you're now punting from your 18 yard line, and you set the opposition up with great field position. Just a killer. 3rd and 2 when you're down 17-10 in the 4th quarter, at the Louisville 18. That's four down territory, and as bad as the run-game has been, we're getting 2 yards in 2 plays. But we jump before the snap, now it's 3rd and 7, it's a completely different situation, and we kick a FG. That very well could have been a 4 point penalty. How many points did we lose by? We have got to stop the dumbass penalties. I praised Dawson and the staff all last year for NOT doing these exact things. Last year, we had a much cleaner operation. Very few pre-snap penalties, very few holds, very few mental mistakes. Totally different story through 6 games this year.

Overall, if we can just somehow get a little more out of our offense, we can run the table, make the playoffs, and make some noise. Every team has adversity in a season. Every team has a bad game. We get our first true stat-padding game of the year on Saturday. Focus, improve, execute, and start to set yourself up for a stretch run. We play some bad defenses the rest of the way, we better drop 30+ on every single team the rest of the season or we're all going to be sitting here in December at 10-2 or god forbid 9-3 having the same conversations as last year, just in reverse (defense came to play, wtf happened to the offense?).

Go Canes.
 
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Bottom left quadrant on offense with a $4m QB and a high price OL and RB room.

2 more losses coming, minimum.

I think it's time to start adapting to who you are. Last year, we needed to be the #1 offense just to stay in/win games because the defense was so bad. This year, it seems like we've completely inverted that. We know the defense is good, we don't have to be great on offense, so just don't be awful, and we'll win. That bites you in the *** sometimes.

I think Dawson needs to completely revamp the thinking and play more like we need to score 30+ to win. Go a little quicker. Get a little more creative, even if you occasionally lose yards or turn the ball over. We've turned the ball over 7 times and our defense has allowed ZERO points after those seven turnovers. They can cover your *** if you need them to, whereas the one last year could not. It's time to go into games with a little more 2024 mindset on offense. If we score 30+ the next 6 games, we're going 6-0. Figure it out.
 
As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition.

Offense:

Yards per play: 49th (5.85 YPP)
Yards per game: 62nd (386.2YPG)
Points per game: 40th (30.2 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 45th (249.6 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 7th (70.4%)
Passing yards per attempt: 29th (8.2 YPA)
Passer rating: 30th (149.7)
Passing TDs: 61st (9 TDs)
Interceptions: 114th (7 INTs)
Rushing yards per game: 80th (136.6 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 86th (3.84 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 48th (10)
Sacks given up per game: 8th (0.8 per game)
First Downs per game: 80th (19.4 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 37th (43.94%)
4th down conversion %: 15th (70%, 7 for 10 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 2nd (3.0 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 21st (72.2% TD rate, 13 TDs in 18 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 18th (17 scores in 18 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (7 for 7)
PAT %: 1st (23 for 23)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 120th (61)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 94th (21)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 75th (10)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 68th (5)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 70th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 71st (1)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 71st (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 16th (4.74 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 19th (311.6 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 12th (16.3 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 58th (218.8 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 25th (58.5%)
Passing yards per attempt: 21st (6.2 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 27th (119.3)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 12th (92.8 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 14th (3.03 YPA)
Sacks per game: 37th (2.4 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 20th (32.39% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 67th (53.85%, opponents 7/13 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 87th (66.7% allowed -- 8 TDs in 12 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 113th (92% allowed -- 11 scores in 12 chances)
Punting: 57th (43.8 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 11th (58)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 12th (16)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 20th (8)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 13th (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 32nd (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 26th (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 130th (8.6 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 110th (66 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 53rd (+0.2 per game -- 8 takeaways, 7 giveaways)
Time of possession: 11th (33:07 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 66 plays per game)

Advanced Metrics:

Total ADJ/EPA per play: 17th
Success Rate %: 6th
Offensive Adj/EPA per play: 37th
Passing EPA/dropback: 43rd
Rushing EPA/rush: 40th
Offensive Success Rate: 13th
Defensive Adj/EPA per play: 17th
Passing Defensive EPA/dropback: 33rd
Rushing Defensive EPA/rush: 11th
Defensive Success Rate: 11th

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Takeaways:

I'll keep this as simple as I can: The offense simply isn't good enough right now to make major noise nationally. It's not completely awful like the 2024 defense, but we're becoming very unbalanced again as an overall operation. The defense is clearly outplaying the offense to this point, and we're not a complementary football team right now. For those of you who tried to tell us all summer that we'd be better or "more efficient" on offense this year, you need to be in a room with padded walls. That was never in the cards. The offense last year was face-melting. The real expectation and hope here was that we could settle maybe somewhere in the 30's on offense, and improve the defense. That would be good enough to win the ACC and make the playoff. The defensive portion has the box checked to this point. The offense, not so much. 40th in points per game. 49th in yards per play. Again, I won't go into X's and O's much here, this is just a look at the numbers, but we're now 80th in rushing and 86th in yards per carry. Completely unacceptable from a team with the supposed best OL in the country. And if your response is just that teams are loading the box and taking away our run game, and to a point I agree with that, then the passing game should be lighting up the sky like a ballistic missile defense system. Beck was sensational against FSU.....not so much against Louisville (although I will say we had more explosives than usual). But Dawson needs to get his **** together, and quickly. I will admit that we *probably* have faced the toughest overall defenses through this point to the season than any other program. Louisville specifically is now up to 6th in EPA/play on defense. We have a much easier road the rest of the way. But I don't care. Again, nobody expects you to be #1 in the country again. And it's ok to have some struggles when you play several good defenses. However, being 80th in rushing is not acceptable. Being in the 40th percentile in explosives is not acceptable. 13 legitimate offensive points, at home, against an ACC school, no matter how good their defense is, is not acceptable. Dawson needs to fix this offense, and fast. Something is amiss, and unless it gets rectified soon, we're going to be in dogfights with teams we should be beating soundly. We're going to roll Stanford on Saturday, but SMU is waiting in 2 weeks. And while I don't think they're very good on defense, they've at least limited the teams they *should* be limiting (Cuse, Stanford, and Clemson with a backup QB all were under 5 yards per play the last 3 weeks). We're not going to win that game scoring 13 points. It's time for everyone to start earning their paychecks on that side of the ball.

On defense, it was a relatively even performance compared to what we've seen all year. This is a very good defense. It's proven it all year, and Friday was no exception. Brohm is one of the best offensive minds in the game (there's a reason he's won 4 games against Top 5 teams), and he had a week to prepare. He came in with a great gameplan, as we expected (I was disappointed with not anticipating the quick throw game...obviously that was going to be what he was going to focus on, but overall, it was solid over the course of 60 minutes). I didn't love going down 14-0, but at the end of the day, 24 points with your offense turning it over 4 times, 5.40 yards per play, and forcing a turnover that sets your team up at the 10 yard line should be good enough to win. We're ranked very high in pretty much every single defensive category. I'm confident, if you paired this with a true Top 30 offense, the defense is good enough to help us make a real run at a national championship. It might not be good enough to fully carry a team there, but we've proven through 6 weeks that we're MUCH improved from last year, and this is a unit good enough to help us achieve our goals. I believe, health provided, at the end of the season, this will be a Top 15 overall defense, which is incredible considering what we watched last year.

Last point is the backbreaking penalties. I usually don't put a massive emphasis on penalties simply because it's not quite the indicator that other metrics are. There have been so many examples of really good, championship-level teams who have poor penalty metrics. Obviously you'd rather be #1 than #120, but if you told me you can be #120 in the country in penalties, or turnover margin, for example...yeah, that's an easy one. You can overcome penalties. The problem is, this team can't, because we're not explosive enough on offense. And they're coming at the worst possible times. Right out of the gate, instead of 3rd and 5 on the first drive, Cici gets a really soft personal foul, but it's still 15 yards, and it's now 3rd and 20. Drive over. That just completely kills a drive in one motion. And just as bad, you're now punting from your 18 yard line, and you set the opposition up with great field position. Just a killer. 3rd and 2 when you're down 17-10 in the 4th quarter, at the Louisville 18. That's four down territory, and as bad as the run-game has been, we're getting 2 yards in 2 plays. But we jump before the snap, now it's 3rd and 7, it's a completely different situation, and we kick a FG. That very well could have been a 4 point penalty. How many points did we lose by? We have got to stop the dumbass penalties. I praised Dawson and the staff all last year for NOT doing these exact things. Last year, we had a much cleaner operation. Very few pre-snap penalties, very few holds, very few mental mistakes. Totally different story through 6 games this year.

Overall, if we can just somehow get a little more out of our offense, we can run the table, make the playoffs, and make some noise. Every team has adversity in a season. Every team has a bad game. We get our first true stat-padding game of the year on Saturday. Focus, improve, execute, and start to set yourself up for a stretch run. We play some bad defenses the rest of the way, we better drop 30+ on every single team the rest of the season or we're all going to be sitting here in December at 10-2 or god forbid 9-3 having the same conversations as last year, just in reverse (defense came to play, wtf happened to the offense?).

Go Canes.
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******* YIKES!!!!

I wonder how our offense compares to 2024 Bobo at UGA with Beck.
 
I think it's time to start adapting to who you are. Last year, we needed to be the #1 offense just to stay in/win games because the defense was so bad. This year, it seems like we've completely inverted that. We know the defense is good, we don't have to be great on offense, so just don't be awful, and we'll win. That bites you in the *** sometimes.

I think Dawson needs to completely revamp the thinking and play more like we need to score 30+ to win. Go a little quicker. Get a little more creative, even if you occasionally lose yards or turn the ball over. We've turned the ball over 7 times and our defense has allowed ZERO points after those seven turnovers. They can cover your *** if you need them to, whereas the one last year could not. It's time to go into games with a little more 2024 mindset on offense. If we score 30+ the next 6 games, we're going 6-0. Figure it out.
How much of that mindset was Cam doing what he wanted (some hyperbole in that)? He changed the play a lot.
 
How much of that mindset was Cam doing what he wanted (some hyperbole in that)? He changed the play a lot.

Tough to say without being in the rooms but a very valid question. I do know for a fact though that Dawson looks hard at numbers. He knows all the numbers I’m posting. He knows this isn’t good enough. I’m hoping a loss wakes everyone up and we really look at the whole approach from top to bottom. If you’re going to get to some different pages in your playbook at mid-season, playing Stanford might be the perfect opportunity to iron some things out in hopes of being more efficient for the stretch run.

We built up a lot of good the first 5 games. We have a strong resume, and we’re 5-1 at the halfway mark. We’re a consensus Top 10 team. The sky is not falling. But we have to be better on offense, or it will. Not this week, but soon.
 
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******* YIKES!!!!

I wonder how our offense compares to 2024 Bobo at UGA with Beck.

Pretty comparable, actually.

UGA couldn't run the ball for ****, were about 40th in scoring.

Our line is definitely playing better than theirs did last year. We're top 10 in sacks allowed, UGA was not.

They were more explosive than us, though.
 

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I think it's time to start adapting to who you are. Last year, we needed to be the #1 offense just to stay in/win games because the defense was so bad. This year, it seems like we've completely inverted that. We know the defense is good, we don't have to be great on offense, so just don't be awful, and we'll win. That bites you in the *** sometimes.

I think Dawson needs to completely revamp the thinking and play more like we need to score 30+ to win. Go a little quicker. Get a little more creative, even if you occasionally lose yards or turn the ball over. We've turned the ball over 7 times and our defense has allowed ZERO points after those seven turnovers. They can cover your *** if you need them to, whereas the one last year could not. It's time to go into games with a little more 2024 mindset on offense. If we score 30+ the next 6 games, we're going 6-0. Figure it out.
if the defense has another bad start like they did against lville, youre done for early on bc the offense cant come back from deficits.
 
Pretty comparable, actually.

UGA couldn't run the ball for ****, were about 40th in scoring.

Our line is definitely playing better than theirs did last year. We're top 10 in sacks allowed, UGA was not.

They were more explosive than us, though.
Thanks for that.

The point for sure is UGA was not winning with that offense but with a mobile QB like Stockton, they have played much better than with Beck.

We need to scheme the offense better to help Carson, which would be a better running scheme with moderate throws for Carson as he seems to be struggling with the long ball.

We need a mobile QB in the future if this is the offense we are going to run. 8-9 defenders crashing into the box and running your offense into that regardless is pure madness.
 
if the defense has another bad start like they did against lville, youre done for early on bc the offense cant come back from deficits.

Points are points. I'm with you, I'm not saying it's great to get down in games. But the defense gave up 24. If the offense scored more than that, which they should have, you win the game. First-quarter points are worth the same as 4th quarter points. The Broncos scored zero for the first 3 quarters yesterday, and then scored 33 in the 4th quarter, and won the game, because the Giants scored 32 across all four quarters. I'm not advocating for games like that, but again, you gotta put points on the board. The defense is allowed to have a bad start if they hold the opposition to 5 yards per play and only 24 points even when your offense turns it over 4 times. That's good enough to win. The offense has to hold up their end of the deal. They did not on Friday. And they have not been good enough to make national noise long-term all year. It has to change.
 
Points are points. I'm with you, I'm not saying it's great to get down in games. But the defense gave up 24. If the offense scored more than that, which they should have, you win the game. First-quarter points are worth the same as 4th quarter points. The Broncos scored zero for the first 3 quarters yesterday, and then scored 33 in the 4th quarter, and won the game, because the Giants scored 32 across all four quarters. I'm not advocating for games like that, but again, you gotta put points on the board. The defense is allowed to have a bad start if they hold the opposition to 5 yards per play and only 24 points even when your offense turns it over 4 times. That's good enough to win. The offense has to hold up their end of the deal. They did not on Friday. And they have not been good enough to make national noise long-term all year. It has to change.
i agree. i think the defense rebounded and kept us in the game. the offense no matter what, cannot score. we havent broken 30 points against p4 once.

not sure what the fix is if the philosophy doesnt change.
 
I am sick of these fkn penalties. I swear to god. Dumb, coming at the worse times. And it seems it never addressed. How can a perceived disciplinarian like Cristobal have such an undisciplined team on the field?
It’s amazing. I don’t even understand it because I do think this team takes things seriously and they can’t ******* stop it.
 
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i agree. i think the defense rebounded and kept us in the game. the offense no matter what, cannot score. we havent broken 30 points against p4 once.

not sure what the fix is if the philosophy doesnt change.
Diversify the run game. Accept the risk of losing yards for the reward of breaking off long runs. We should not be relying on our passing attack for big plays alone when our offensive line is bigger then many NFL OLs. Bring all the motion and misdirection and let the OL get active
 
I am sick of these fkn penalties. I swear to god. Dumb, coming at the worse times. And it seems it never addressed. How can a perceived disciplinarian like Cristobal have such a undisciplined team on the field?

Alabama was 129th out of 131 in penalties in 2022 under a coach named Nick Saban. They went 11-2, with both losses coming by a combined 4 points, one of those in overtime.

This isn't to compare Mario to Saban, obviously. It's more of what I said in the OP. Penalties are a weird deal, to me it really depends on which type of penalties and how good your team is. The ones we're getting are simply killers. The success percentage between a 3rd and 2 and a 3rd and 7 is MASSIVE. You can't have false starts on 3rd and 2, at home when there's no noise. You can't push someone after the play on 2nd and 5 and make it a 3rd and 20. We're not good enough to overcome those penalties. Not many teams are. It's definitely maddening but I don't think it comes down to any kind of disciplinarian stuff. Is he going to bench Cici? We just have to be better in certain situations. I can live with some penalties but they can't be back-breaking.
 
Alabama was 129th out of 131 in penalties in 2022 under a coach named Nick Saban. They went 11-2, with both losses coming by a combined 4 points, one of those in overtime.

This isn't to compare Mario to Saban, obviously. It's more of what I said in the OP. Penalties are a weird deal, to me it really depends on which type of penalties and how good your team is. The ones we're getting are simply killers. The success percentage between a 3rd and 2 and a 3rd and 7 is MASSIVE. You can't have false starts on 3rd and 2, at home when there's no noise. You can't push someone after the play on 2nd and 5 and make it a 3rd and 20. We're not good enough to overcome those penalties. Not many teams are. It's definitely maddening but I don't think it comes down to any kind of disciplinarian stuff. Is he going to bench Cici? We just have to be better in certain situations. I can live with some penalties but they can't be back-breaking.
I think the problem is that Saban was converted offensively before that and Mario/Maribal want to be Harbaugh michigan but that team was disciplined, had 45 penalties all year and like 5 turnovers. They RARELY made mistakes.. We cant go a drive without the oline causing penalty..We are not the same, lol..

I wont even get into Connor Stalion and lacking Jesse Minter defense.
 
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I think the problem is that Saban was converted offensively before that and Mario/Maribal want to be Harbaugh michigan but that team was disciplined, had 45 penalties all year and like 5 turnovers. They RARELY made mistakes.. We cant go a drive without their oline causing penalty..We are not the same, lol..

I wont even get into Connor Stalion and lacking Jesse Minter defense.

Fair, and kind of what I said. If you’re going to score 40 a week, you can absorb some penalties. If you’re going to score 13, well….

The team was 130th in penalties last year too. And we did have some back breakers (George vs Syracuse comes to mind. The bull**** hold vs Syracuse as well), I feel like they impacted the team less last year because the offense was so **** good, they’d just overcome them. And if we got them on defense, who cares, the opposing offense was going to score whether we had penalties or not.
 
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