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- BULLET DODGED If the stories are true that Miami targeted Mateer, call that a major bullet dodged. As someone said Texas caught the interceptions that Auburn and Michigan didn't. The guy makes Justin Fields look like Peyton Manning in terms of processing ability.

- Any NFL team looking for a QB will have to wait another year. People criticized last years class but at least you had Cam and Dart looks like he has some hope. By the end of the year Beck will look like he did at the beginning of the 2023- the clear #1. I thought Dante Moore would be the guy but he doesn't handle pressure well. Mendoza is great throwing bubble screens and short passes. Not as good 10 yards past the line. No need to comment on Arch, Cade and Allar.

- Texas A&M and Indiana both look strong along the lines. Except for Pat Coogan, I have no idea who the Indiana transfers are but somehow they are tough along the lines.

- Curt Cignetti seems to identify good DCs.Will Stein is a really good OC and Haines had him confused all day. The guy even looks like Heatherman.

- Bud Elliot put it best. Gunnar Stockton might be really good Sunday through Friday but unfortunately he's not that good on Saturdays.

- I'll be in the minority here but I'd target Lagway for next year. He's nowhere near as polished as Beck or Cam but he's got so much potential. Plus if he can bring one of the 2 WRs with him that'd be a plus.

- Hopefully Mario can use the Pena and Singleton as examples to portal WRs to be patient and trust him when it comes into finding a QB.

- Finally, it's so wide open this year there are so many teams with a shot to win it all- Miami, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas AM, Alabama, maybe even Texas Tech. Let's see how Georgia and Mississippi develop. It might be like the NFL where it'll come down to injuries.
 
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Penn State and Ohio State tried to hire the Indiana DC in the off-season. This was before Penn State hired Knowles away from Ohio State and Ohio State replaced him with Matt Patricia.

The announcer in the Indiana Oregon game had a great line:

“Penn State made a call, Ohio State made a call, and Haines make a call to the bank after signing a multi-million dollar extension at Indiana.”
 
Eh are we really criticizing a guy who was returned too soon from a broken hand so he could play a rivalry game? They rushed him back, and he had a **** game. Let's see how it plays out. I'm glad we got Beck and that made it to the regular season healthy, but Mateer would have also been a home run based on where things were at the time, and lots of people still didn't know if Beck would be ready for the season for us.
 
poncho0091 said:
Eh are we really criticizing a guy who was returned too soon from a broken hand so he could play a rivalry game? They rushed him back, and he had a **** game. Let's see how it plays out. I'm glad we got Beck and that made it to the regular season healthy, but Mateer would have also been a home run based on where things were at the time, and lots of people still didn't know if Beck would be ready for the season for us.
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Did he have a broken hand against Auburn or Michigan? It was the same decision making. The only difference is that Texas didn't drop the Ints.
 
sfcane2 said:
Did he have a broken hand against Auburn or Michigan? It was the same decision making. The only difference is that Texas didn't drop the Ints.
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Yes actually he did. He broke it in the game against Auburn in the first quarter and still threw 24/36 for 271 yards, 1 TD 0 ints. He was supposed to be out 1 month and it's been a few weeks.
 
Mateer and Bryce Underwood at U of Michigan have the same problem in their throwing style. They like to sling the ball from a sidearm or 3/4 delivery. It looks beautiful, but it is impossible to put touch on a ball, or have it drop into the bucket from their arm angles. Look at the how the ball dropped on both of Beck’s long throw to Toney against FSU. You can’t make that throw sidearm.
And from time to time, the ball sails on them. Both looked bad yesterday, and both need to change their form if they want NFL success. That style isn’t great for college and will not have any chance in the NFL.
 
sfcane2 said:
- BULLET DODGED If the stories are true that Miami targeted Mateer, call that a major bullet dodged. As someone said Texas caught the interceptions that Auburn and Michigan didn't. The guy makes Justin Fields look like Peyton Manning in terms of processing ability.

- Any NFL team looking for a QB will have to wait another year. People criticized last years class but at least you had Cam and Dart looks like he has some hope. By the end of the year Beck will look like he did at the beginning of the 2023- the clear #1. I thought Dante Moore would be the guy but he doesn't handle pressure well. Mendoza is great throwing bubble screens and short passes. Not as good 10 yards past the line. No need to comment on Arch, Cade and Allar.

- Texas A&M and Indiana both look strong along the lines. Except for Pat Coogan, I have no idea who the Indiana transfers are but somehow they are tough along the lines.

- Curt Cignetti seems to identify good DCs.Will Stein is a really good OC and Haines had him confused all day. The guy even looks like Heatherman.

- Bud Elliot put it best. Gunnar Stockton might be really good Sunday through Friday but unfortunately he's not that good on Saturdays.

- I'll be in the minority here but I'd target Lagway for next year. He's nowhere near as polished as Beck or Cam but he's got so much potential. Plus if he can bring one of the 2 WRs with him that'd be a plus.

- Hopefully Mario can use the Pena and Singleton as examples to portal WRs to be patient and trust him when it comes into finding a QB.

- Finally, it's so wide open this year there are so many teams with a shot to win it all- Miami, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas AM, Alabama, maybe even Texas Tech. Let's see how Georgia and Mississippi develop. It might be like the NFL where it'll come down to injuries.
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Great post!

I'd target Nico or JKS (Cal freshman) but both may stay where they've had success. I think Mateer could look different here but he wouldn't be my first choice, and I get the feeling he'd likely stay put as well.
 
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Do t think they really wanted pena and they made the right decision to not pay him because he isn’t good
 
I don’t know if you’re in the minority re: Lagway, but I cringe watching him play QB and for different reasons than the guys who just stand on their spot. This dude drifts into the ether and then has the accuracy of a 9 year old girl shooting her first 12 gauge shotgun. I’ve compared some of his throws to Ricky Vaughn pre-glasses in Major League Baseball I.
 
LuCane said:
I don’t know if you’re in the minority re: Lagway, but I cringe watching him play QB and for different reasons than the guys who just stand on their spot. This dude drifts into the ether and then has the accuracy of a 9 year old girl shooting her first 12 gauge shotgun. I’ve compared some of his throws to Ricky Vaughn pre-glasses in Major League Baseball I.
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Lagway and Sellers were part of the all hype team coming into this season. I see them both with a sky is the limit ceiling, but they have yet to prove that the hype the media was selling about them is who they actually are yet. They were being crowned without really proving it.

The number of arguments I got into over someone like Richardson just not being that good was insane. It's funny watching those guys who were pumping him so hard on draft day. Sad because he seems like a good kid, but he's never consistently put it together. These guys are similar imo.
 
poncho0091 said:
Lagway and Sellers were part of the all hype team coming into this season. I see them both with a sky is the limit ceiling, but they have yet to prove that the hype the media was selling about them is who they actually are yet. They were being crowned without really proving it.
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You can look however you want, but on gameday you have to make throws. I’m yet to see anything sustainable with Lagway. He REALLY missed some throws. QB play is as bad as ever right now.
 
sfcane2 said:
- BULLET DODGED If the stories are true that Miami targeted Mateer, call that a major bullet dodged. As someone said Texas caught the interceptions that Auburn and Michigan didn't. The guy makes Justin Fields look like Peyton Manning in terms of processing ability.

- Any NFL team looking for a QB will have to wait another year. People criticized last years class but at least you had Cam and Dart looks like he has some hope. By the end of the year Beck will look like he did at the beginning of the 2023- the clear #1. I thought Dante Moore would be the guy but he doesn't handle pressure well. Mendoza is great throwing bubble screens and short passes. Not as good 10 yards past the line. No need to comment on Arch, Cade and Allar.

- Texas A&M and Indiana both look strong along the lines. Except for Pat Coogan, I have no idea who the Indiana transfers are but somehow they are tough along the lines.

- Curt Cignetti seems to identify good DCs.Will Stein is a really good OC and Haines had him confused all day. The guy even looks like Heatherman.

- Bud Elliot put it best. Gunnar Stockton might be really good Sunday through Friday but unfortunately he's not that good on Saturdays.

- I'll be in the minority here but I'd target Lagway for next year. He's nowhere near as polished as Beck or Cam but he's got so much potential. Plus if he can bring one of the 2 WRs with him that'd be a plus.

- Hopefully Mario can use the Pena and Singleton as examples to portal WRs to be patient and trust him when it comes into finding a QB.

- Finally, it's so wide open this year there are so many teams with a shot to win it all- Miami, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas AM, Alabama, maybe even Texas Tech. Let's see how Georgia and Mississippi develop. It might be like the NFL where it'll come down to injuries.
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I think your last sentence is how we play offense. Enough to win, but nothing to push our core guys if not necessary.
 
LuCane said:
You can look however you want, but on gameday you have to make throws. I’m yet to see anything sustainable with Lagway. He REALLY missed some throws. QB play is as bad as ever right now.
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Coaches dont got time to develop them anymore, you can win most of your games go to playoffs and next season be fired and sent on your way.. Game is cold now, you getting money , better get your own qb coach since middle school..
 
skyman said:
Coaches dont got time to develop them anymore, you can win most of your games go to playoffs and next season be fired and sent on your way.. Game is cold now, you getting money , better get your own qb coach since middle school..
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I wonder if this has contributed to Cam's rise and success. He didn't go the modern day route and had to develop a little more at each stop.
 
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AtlAtty said:
Mateer and Bryce Underwood at U of Michigan have the same problem in their throwing style. They like to sling the ball from a sidearm or 3/4 delivery. It looks beautiful, but it is impossible to put touch on a ball, or have it drop into the bucket from their arm angles. Look at the how the ball dropped on both of Beck’s long throw to Toney against FSU. You can’t make that throw sidearm.
And from time to time, the ball sails on them. Both looked bad yesterday, and both need to change their form if they want NFL success. That style isn’t great for college and will not have any chance in the NFL.
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Yes
 
I get the criticism of Lagway— the drifting, the scattershot accuracy, all of that shows up but that’s almost word-for-word what people said about Josh Allen coming out of Wyoming. Huge arm, freak athlete, erratic mechanics, looked like he was playing his own sport half the time. Then he got into a system that coached the chaos out of him, built the offense around his strengths, and gave him protection and a run game.

That’s why I think Lagway would actually fit really well at Miami. Behind Cristobal’s line and with Dawson’s Air Raid structure, he wouldn’t be asked to play hero-ball every snap. He’d get time, rhythm throws, and a run game that keeps defenses honest. The physical tools are already there — what he needs now is what Josh Allen got: repetition, discipline, and an environment that rewards staying on schedule instead of surviving off it.

If Miami can give him that, he could make the same kind of leap from “raw athlete with flashes” to “complete quarterback.”
 
Shooter McGavin said:
Yea Mateer played bad but he came back 2-3 weeks too soon. Any qb in the country would have had the day he had yesterday if they came back that quick. Don’t blame the guy for wanting to play in one of the biggest rivalries in football.
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Mateer actually looked good early during the scripted part and when he had time. Once he stated getting pressured his lack of ability to process really showed.
 
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