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StevoBevo

StevoBevo

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So I was just curious and looked into our class and noticed that there was a composite ranking update for our top players and it went as follows:
OL: Francis M - Rose in rating (National composite ranking went from #5 to #7 though)
DE: J Wayne - Dropped in Rating
QB: J Rashada - Stayed still
LB: M Bryant - Dropped in rating
TE: R Williams - Dropped in rating
WR: N Joseph - Dropped in rating
LB - Raul Aguirre - Dropped in rating

All of our top 7 players dropped in their national ranking for composite while still rising (Francis M) or they dropped overall.

The rest of the class did not have an update but some still dropped nationally in their ranking.

Coincidence? I find it hard to see how ALL of Miamis top recruits seemed to drop on the same day while NONE rose.

We now hold the 9# class (previously 7# before the update)
 
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StevoBevo said:
So I was just curious and looked into our class and noticed that there was a composite ranking update for our top players and it went as follows:
OL: Francis M - Rose in rating (National composite ranking went from #5 to #7 though)
DE: J Wayne - Dropped in Rating
QB: J Rashada - Stayed still
LB: M Bryant - Dropped in rating
TE: R Williams - Dropped in rating
WR: N Joseph - Dropped in rating
LB - Raul Aguirre - Dropped in rating

All of our top 7 players dropped in their national ranking for composite while still rising (Francis M) or they dropped overall.

The rest of the class did not have an update but some still dropped nationally in their ranking.

Coincidence? I find it hard to see how ALL of Miamis top recruits seemed to drop on the same day while NONE rose.

We now hold the 9# class (previously 7# before the update)
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Raul should have gone up, as he went up in the Rivals 250. Also Mauigoa went up but he technically dropped in the composite from 6 to 7. They listed him at 7 but he is the exact same ranking as Dante Moore who is now 6th.
 
bobbydigius said:
Raul should have gone up, as he went up in the Rivals 250. Also Mauigoa went up but he technically dropped in the composite from 6 to 7. They listed him at 7 but he is the exact same ranking as Dante Moore who is now 6th.
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You are right about Aguirre. If it was the rivals 250 that just updated then I find also find it amazing that Stafford & Washington don’t make the cut when they’re both top 150 recruits according to the composite.
 
StevoBevo said:
You are right about Aguirre. If it was the rivals 250 that just updated then I find also find it amazing that Stafford & Washington don’t make the cut when they’re both top 150 recruits according to the composite.
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Neither are rated all that high by rivals. Main reason Washington is ranked where he is ranked is because 247 has him as a top 100 player. The interesting part about the rivals update was as you scrolled their update it appeared as though a large majority of all their players dropped. It was weird to see. Almost felt like a glitch.
 
StevoBevo said:
So I was just curious and looked into our class and noticed that there was a composite ranking update for our top players and it went as follows:
OL: Francis M - Rose in rating (National composite ranking went from #5 to #7 though)
DE: J Wayne - Dropped in Rating
QB: J Rashada - Stayed still
LB: M Bryant - Dropped in rating
TE: R Williams - Dropped in rating
WR: N Joseph - Dropped in rating
LB - Raul Aguirre - Dropped in rating

All of our top 7 players dropped in their national ranking for composite while still rising (Francis M) or they dropped overall.

The rest of the class did not have an update but some still dropped nationally in their ranking.

Coincidence? I find it hard to see how ALL of Miamis top recruits seemed to drop on the same day while NONE rose.

We now hold the 9# class (previously 7# before the update)
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Rivals did an update. It is what it is. Rankings don’t change anything. We’ll see what type of players they are when they get on campus.
 
Composite is flawed. All it takes is one biased ranking service to crush a kid. They should pick an athletes three top ratings & average them. Drop the others. That way if 3 sites have a kid 40-60 and the other is ranked 280, it doesn't get factored in.

**It would still allow for ranking services to dunk on their predictions. They go out on a limb & have a kid as a bust, then he bust, bam. Spike a kids ratings on potential/projection and he balls, bam. Spice it up a notch.
 
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This has been happening way too much for it to be a coincidence.

We all know these players commitment and offers tell you what their rating is, not their actual talent...but there has not been any games played for these rankings to change with anybody. Literally no new data but offers and commitments.

The recruiting world would be much better off if there were real evaluators doing this job instead of the nerds doing it now.
 
L A M P said:
Composite is flawed. All it takes is one biased ranking service to crush a kid. They should pick an athletes three top ratings & average them. Drop the others. That way if 3 sites have a kid 40-60 and the other is ranked 280, it doesn't get factored in.

**It would still allow for ranking services to dunk on their predictions. They go out on a limb & have a kid as a bust, then he bust, bam. Spike a kids ratings on potential/projection and he balls, bam. Spice it up a notch.
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For example, Rashada who is ranked high by everyone but On3 who has him at like 190 or something. It skews his composite ranking to be lower than it really should be. Wayne is another example where On3 is so out of whack of the rest that it drops him to a 4 star in the composite at least it was the last time I looked.
 
L A M P said:
Composite is flawed. All it takes is one biased ranking service to crush a kid. They should pick an athletes three top ratings & average them. Drop the others. That way if 3 sites have a kid 40-60 and the other is ranked 280, it doesn't get factored in.

**It would still allow for ranking services to dunk on their predictions. They go out on a limb & have a kid as a bust, then he bust, bam. Spike a kids ratings on potential/projection and he balls, bam. Spice it up a notch.
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Wouldn’t the better way be to take the outlier out, instead of take 3 of the highest? Also, 247 originally didn’t include On3. It was On3 that pushed the issue by coming out with their consensus that forced their hand.
 
bobbydigius said:
Wouldn’t the better way be to take the outlier out, instead of take 3 of the highest? Also, 247 originally didn’t include On3. It was On3 that pushed the issue by coming out with their consensus that forced their hand.
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On3 is aggressively looking for all of the **** to suck. What a garbage organization. The others should act like they do not exist. Don’t give them credibility.
 
bobbydigius said:
Wouldn’t the better way be to take the outlier out, instead of take 3 of the highest? Also, 247 originally didn’t include On3. It was On3 that pushed the issue by coming out with their consensus that forced their hand.
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I don't know how many services factor in. That's basically what I'm saying.
 
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bobbydigius said:
Wouldn’t the better way be to take the outlier out, instead of take 3 of the highest? Also, 247 originally didn’t include On3. It was On3 that pushed the issue by coming out with their consensus that forced their hand.
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Stevo and Bobby, Do you guys think other recruits are influenced by 247's composite so much that it will change their commitment with Miami vs. another program? I personally don't think it matters at all. Maybe data point #99 on a list of 100 decision factors floating around in these recruits' heads.

It's not a complex formula. Recruits need to 1. believe in the HC and program. 2. believe they're getting a "good deal" and 3. believe in their position coach. Georgia got their classes by a combination of bags and kids believing in Smart's pitch and the Nick Saban coaching tree. Now they're sustaining it because they won a national championship. Not coincidentally, they're struggling at OL because Stacy Fing Searels is their OL coach.

Anyone who points to the correlation between rankings and championships, or rankings and draft selections, isn't considering the independent versus the dependent variable. Rankings are not primarily causal, they're mostly symptomatic.

A kid who commits to Alabama is going to get ranked higher than a kid who commits to Miami right now, because it's the path of least resistence for the so-called "experts" in the eval room at 247, Rivals, ESPN and On3 (no SI in the composite?). Those rankings scouts have 1/1000th the ability of guys like Mario, Gatis, Highsmith, Strong and other talent evlatuators on our staff. Their opinions are entirely inconsequential.
 
who cares what those geeks who have never played a down of football say. We have some **** good kids in this class and expecting to add some more.
 
Doesn't help the narrative but our other two composite 4 stars ratings went up. So the top nine had 5 go down and 4 go up.

Stafford - up .0064
Washington - up .0062

For comparison I looked at a few teams immediately ahead of us (omitted names had no historical data)

Clemson had 6 down, 2 up, 1 no change:

Vezzina went down
Woods went down
Burley no change
Sewell went down
Owens went down
Ojiegbe went up
Reed went down
Hanafin went up
Hoffler went down

Oklahoma 5 down, 4 up

Arnold up
Adebawore up
Pettaway down
Green down
Johnson down
Leblanc down
Omosigho up
Carter up
Wagoner down

LSU 9 down, 3 up

Sampson down
Brown down
Womack up
Howard up
Austin down
Mickens up
Jackson down
Jackson 2 down
Markway down
Collins down
Yaites down
Daugherty down

Georgia 9 down, 3 up

Harris down
Aguero down
Wilson down
Bowles up
Spurlin down
Hughley down
Cottrell down
Allen up
Harris 2 down
Jarrett down
Smith down
Luckie up

Can OP alert these teams fan bases so they can be ahead of the curve on tin-foil-hat making?

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Ohio state 7 down, 4 up

Innis down
Rogers down
Montgomery up
Moore down
Tate down
Simpson-hunt up
Thurman up
Hartford down
Lee down
Padilla up
Fletcher down
 
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