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UM's Def staff should visit TCU & have **** Bumpas visit UM

Paranos is the best poster on this board, and we have clowns attacking him. Makes me sick.

Paranos, I have an issue with you stating that Diaz gives up big plays. He hasn't had a problem with big plays. Instead, his problem was giving up chunk plays on 2nd and long that kept drives going.
 
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The Franchise said:
Paranos is the best poster on this board, and we have clowns attacking him. Makes me sick.


Paranos, I have an issue with you stating that Diaz gives up big plays. He hasn't had a problem with big plays. Instead, his problem was giving up chunk plays on 2nd and long that kept drives going.
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I agree ^ a lot of the big plays he gave up were big run plays where most of the time someone missed a tackle or two. After watching almost every game of Miss St. Last year the D itself isn't that bad. What bothers me most is that they do line the CB's 7-9 yards off the receivers quite a bit playing the whole keep it in front of you game. There were a lot of quick screens and hitches run for 4-8 yards a pop. That's what kills me most! He gives up a bunch of easy things waiting to force a mistake with pressure. I would rather have a defense that "tried" to negate everything. Sometimes it works, but when you get an offense with a pulse he gets torched. Granted he will have more talent here to do what he is asking, so we shall soon see.
 
luciano.8 said:
With Mark Richt, that is very very possible every single year.
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With Mark Richt AND in Miami's talent pool....

Seems like he is already set at LB for at least the next 3-4 years with more depth coming next year...
If Kool does what he did at Missouri then DL will be good even if we aren't pulling a bunch 5/4*'s
DB's will be rejuvenated with the 2017 class, and will be elite with the 2018 class.
 
Orangebowl said:
I was reading some Longhorn boards and they all hate Diaz and are making fun of us for hiring him. Anyway TCU's defense hasn't seemed to be too good the last 5 years or so. They're having to win in shootouts. Sometimes scoring a gargantuan amount of points still doesn't work out for them. They lost a game in regulation in 2014 despite scoring 58 points.
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Cleveland fans ridiculed the Patriots for hiring Bellichek too...how's that working out?

I'm not saying Diaz will become the standard by that all other DCs are measured, but Richt hired him for a reason. Let's see how it plays out.
 
Paranos said:
TCU's 13 year defensive Coordinator **** Bumpas retired last year, he co created TCU's 4-2-5 defense that for years was one of the best in the country. TCU's was\is adept at creating chaos and massive pressure while not giving up the big play while keeping the defense simple for players but complex to the opponents. An since Coach Diaz's defensive system is known for giving the big play, this could help solve that.

Diaz and staff should spend sometime this off season at TCU, then hire Bumpas as a consultant to help install some of the concepts into Diaz's base defense. With amount of HUNH\spread offenses now in the ACC this would a prudent move by Coach Richt and Miami. Also with ability for TCU's defensive line to play independent of the defensive backfield, which will allow Coach Kool even more autonomy with his D-line.

Here is an article link about TCU's defensive system.

How TCU's defense works, and how it stops up-tempo offenses - SBNation.com


Go Canes
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Great point and post. Interesting subtle reference tying Horned Frogs defensive scheme lineage to Jimmy Johnson (and thus UM of 80s glory)...
 
Zbrod95 said:
Well in 2011 when Diaz first took over texas's defense it finished 12th in total defense with 22.2 ppg but it had defensive talent. Emmanuel Acho, Jackson Jeffcoat, Jordan Hicks, Kenny Vaccaro, and Kheeston Randall were on that defense, he also had talent at Mississippi state in 2010 he had Jonathan Banks, Fletcher Cox, Pernall McPhee, Charles Mitchell, Chris White, Nickoe Whitley, and KJ Wright and it only allowed 19.8 ppg but finished 55th in total defense. The one consistent thing between the two years when he had legitimate talent he finished top fifteen in rushing defense, 15th at Miss State and 6th at Texas with a low ppg rating. That in its self would be a legitimate improvement from last year's D. Maybe the key to his D is consistent talent...
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Not to nitpick, but that's any defense.
 
mjackson6 said:
Recruiting speed, depth, and more talent in the secondary will do more for preventing the big play than visiting TCU or have this guy come to UM for a few days. That's the reality of where we're at right now.

Golden visiting the cowboys and Seahawks really worked last offseason didn't it?
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I most certainly agree with bringing in more talent, speed and depth but that doesn't mean you dismiss the idea of learning from other staffs and acquiring and integrating new ideas and concepts.

You however are opposed to being open to new ideas and learning new concepts because Golden who was a terrible coach attempted to do so and failed? Got it.
 
I'm with you, OP. It never hurts to expand your knowledge base. Collectively, the system that Diaz employs is not terribly different than TCU's 425, though there are some glaring differences in base playcalling. Both systems can do nearly the exact same things, tough TCU is more of a robber-based coverage team (inverted cover-2). It seems like Diaz like to base out of some form of cover 2/4.

OP mentioned how the front's responsibilities are completely independent from the secondary. I think the best way to do this is to base out of nickel personnel. You need to have a five spoke secondary for it to be fluid. Your S$/F$/W$ trio needs to have consistent alignment rules according to placement of the ball. Your S$ plays to the field; your W$ plays to the boundary; your F$ plays to the formation's passing strength.

Within those base alignment rules, you have sub rules depending on play call and formation. For example: your F$, while playing inverted Cov-2 towards a pro side (TE & WR), is aligned with heels at 8 yards and in the B-gap. Another example (same coverage and formation): your S$ is playing at a quarter turn facing the QB at 3 yards deep and 7 yards wide from the EMLOS (end man on line of scrimmage).

Under this same hypothetical, the front--defensive line and linebackers--can be in any front they please. I know Bumpas, who is the DC and DL coach, teaches his players to align based on what formation they get in front of them. Essentially, if the players are told to do so, they call their own fronts. You see them doing that a lot against teams who like to run it out of the gun.

I absolutely love the system, but I'm biased. Our staff took a trip over to Fort Worth the spring following TCU's Rose Bowl victory over Wisconsin. Patterson is an absolute crazy person.
 
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TheMatador said:
Ibis Wingz said:
OP shares his knowledge of football and insights with us and guys attack him for that. SMDH
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You'd attack him too if he were ******. You just need an excuse for your hate.
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