Three (general) things teams need to get to the playoffs IMO

[NorthEastCane]

We're lucky to have those shots at top 5 teams because we aren't getting much credit for being undefeated. My nightmare is that we beat ND who then goes winless the rest of the year and Clempson drops another game or two and the narrative remains "Miami hasn't played anybody good". I think we all know that if we beat ND it will turn out they were a deeply flawed team.

Mentioning luck, this team has been crazy lucky this year. Great 4th quarter plays that shouldn't work most of the time working for us. Teams foolishly choosing to go for it on 4th down in the redzone and getting nothing. ****, that redzone fumble on Saturday could easily have ended up back in VT hands but it bounced right to one of our guys. Seems like we had a solid 10 years where the ball went back to the other team or at best we dove on it, but never just bounced up into our hands. Like OP said, great teams make their own luck, and that's what this team is doing. If that continues, I like our chances to go all the way.

People only like to point out the fortuitous bounces that go our way but like to ignore the breaks that do not go our way. For instance every kicker has looked like Adam Vinatieri against us. Not one missed FG. Also, how many points have we left on the field because we have not been able to score in the redzone or convert on third down. How many points have we scored off turnovers?
In many ways teams are "lucky" that we have not been blowing them out.
It goes both ways.

I'm not disagreeing with you but the examples you cite aren't the strongest to support that we've also been the victims, e.g.

* Field goals - just executing what they are supposed to do is not necessarily bad luck (even though in VTs case the kicker is historically bad in 50+ yard attempts
* Short Yardage - our failure to execute in short yardage is cited as an example, not of bad luck, but that we're not good enough yet.

A good example of a bad break was the bounce of the late 4th qtr fumble in last years Notre Dame game. We recover that fumble, we win. Off the top of my head, I can't think of an equally egregious example that directly impacted the a game. People only remember FSU and GT, hence the narrative.

Those of us who have watched the full games know the difference.

I pointed out the redzone issues only because he pointed out the redzone issues VA tech had in his post.

The point is breaks go both ways.

As for FGs maybe you did not see the syracuse kicker slip and still make it. That sorta thing does not happen every day. It is a break that went their way.

IF you want to nitpick go ahead. But the point is teams are "Lucky" that we have not been blowing them out in my eyes based on his logic.

Not nitpicking, just drawing the distinction between bad bounces (bad luck) vs shooting ourselves in the foot (bad execution). Teams are not lucky because we fail to blow them out because of bad execution.

 

[Colombie]

We're lucky to have those shots at top 5 teams because we aren't getting much credit for being undefeated. My nightmare is that we beat ND who then goes winless the rest of the year and Clempson drops another game or two and the narrative remains "Miami hasn't played anybody good". I think we all know that if we beat ND it will turn out they were a deeply flawed team.

Mentioning luck, this team has been crazy lucky this year. Great 4th quarter plays that shouldn't work most of the time working for us. Teams foolishly choosing to go for it on 4th down in the redzone and getting nothing. ****, that redzone fumble on Saturday could easily have ended up back in VT hands but it bounced right to one of our guys. Seems like we had a solid 10 years where the ball went back to the other team or at best we dove on it, but never just bounced up into our hands. Like OP said, great teams make their own luck, and that's what this team is doing. If that continues, I like our chances to go all the way.

People only like to point out the fortuitous bounces that go our way but like to ignore the breaks that do not go our way. For instance every kicker has looked like Adam Vinatieri against us. Not one missed FG. Also, how many points have we left on the field because we have not been able to score in the redzone or convert on third down. How many points have we scored off turnovers?
In many ways teams are "lucky" that we have not been blowing them out.
It goes both ways.

I'm not disagreeing with you but the examples you cite aren't the strongest to support that we've also been the victims, e.g.

* Field goals - just executing what they are supposed to do is not necessarily bad luck (even though in VTs case the kicker is historically bad in 50+ yard attempts
* Short Yardage - our failure to execute in short yardage is cited as an example, not of bad luck, but that we're not good enough yet.

A good example of a bad break was the bounce of the late 4th qtr fumble in last years Notre Dame game. We recover that fumble, we win. Off the top of my head, I can't think of an equally egregious example that directly impacted the a game. People only remember FSU and GT, hence the narrative.

Those of us who have watched the full games know the difference.

I pointed out the redzone issues only because he pointed out the redzone issues VA tech had in his post.

The point is breaks go both ways.

As for FGs maybe you did not see the syracuse kicker slip and still make it. That sorta thing does not happen every day. It is a break that went their way.

IF you want to nitpick go ahead. But the point is teams are "Lucky" that we have not been blowing them out in my eyes based on his logic.

Not nitpicking, just drawing the distinction between bad bounces (bad luck) vs shooting ourselves in the foot (bad execution). Teams are not lucky because we fail to blow them out because of bad execution.

Not all of the redzone issues are attributed to poor execution if you want to get technical and nitpick.
But it is a moot point.

 

[PharmCane305]

something in our favor as well is timing! Vatech, ND, CLEMSON quarterbacks are all in their first year starting! Big plus for us and our aggressive defense that creates chaos

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[iLoveTDs]

1) DL
2) QB
3) At least 1 special playmaker

 

[kryptonite]

We're lucky to have those shots at top 5 teams because we aren't getting much credit for being undefeated. My nightmare is that we beat ND who then goes winless the rest of the year and Clempson drops another game or two and the narrative remains "Miami hasn't played anybody good". I think we all know that if we beat ND it will turn out they were a deeply flawed team.

Mentioning luck, this team has been crazy lucky this year. Great 4th quarter plays that shouldn't work most of the time working for us. Teams foolishly choosing to go for it on 4th down in the redzone and getting nothing. ****, that redzone fumble on Saturday could easily have ended up back in VT hands but it bounced right to one of our guys. Seems like we had a solid 10 years where the ball went back to the other team or at best we dove on it, but never just bounced up into our hands. Like OP said, great teams make their own luck, and that's what this team is doing. If that continues, I like our chances to go all the way.

People only like to point out the fortuitous bounces that go our way but like to ignore the breaks that do not go our way. For instance every kicker has looked like Adam Vinatieri against us. Not one missed FG. Also, how many points have we left on the field because we have not been able to score in the redzone or convert on third down. How many points have we scored off turnovers?
In many ways teams are "lucky" that we have not been blowing them out.
It goes both ways.

I'm not disagreeing with you but the examples you cite aren't the strongest to support that we've also been the victims, e.g.

* Field goals - just executing what they are supposed to do is not necessarily bad luck (even though in VTs case the kicker is historically bad in 50+ yard attempts
* Short Yardage - our failure to execute in short yardage is cited as an example, not of bad luck, but that we're not good enough yet.

A good example of a bad break was the bounce of the late 4th qtr fumble in last years Notre Dame game. We recover that fumble, we win. Off the top of my head, I can't think of an equally egregious example that directly impacted the a game. People only remember FSU and GT, hence the narrative.

Those of us who have watched the full games know the difference.

I pointed out the redzone issues only because he pointed out the redzone issues VA tech had in his post.

The point is breaks go both ways.

As for FGs maybe you did not see the syracuse kicker slip and still make it. That sorta thing does not happen every day. It is a break that went their way.

IF you want to nitpick go ahead. But the point is teams are "Lucky" that we have not been blowing them out in my eyes based on his logic.

Not nitpicking, just drawing the distinction between bad bounces (bad luck) vs shooting ourselves in the foot (bad execution). Teams are not lucky because we fail to blow them out because of bad execution.

Have to agree with this. Teams are lucky we haven't been blowing them out, but that's because of a lack of execution and/or play calling on our part. We should have scored 35 on Saturday, but we can't push another team off the ball for 2 yds to save our lives. You could call that 4th down play bad luck, but I think it's more about suspect play calling and good defense (what were the chances that VT would let the QB slip away when they'd just made that mistake minutes earlier? Bad call). Same thing all year, we don't seem to have a play for picking up a few yards when the D knows that's what we want which leads us to leave points on the field. That's all about execution and play calling.