The view from up close - ND excelled in holding our DLs and interfering with our WRs

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Finally made it back home after some lengthy travels and way too much "wetness" for one weekend (pause, of course).

Haven't watched the replay yet, but I thought I'd share my reactions from sitting on the ND side and watching things you may not have seen on TV.

First, ND was definitely trying to get Miami players to lose their composure. Perhaps they thought Jacolby George was still on the roster. But early on, there were several minor skirmishes (one where a ND player grabbed our guy's facemask), and it became more than apparent that the refs were not going to do a god**** thing to regulate ND unless there was bloodshed (or a ND DB "accidentally" tackled our WR from behind while the ball was in the air).

Second, this ND "offensive line" bull****. Oh lord. While I gave the ND fans credit for the fact that most of their OL has played together for years, they just did not have the core strength or ability to hold off Miami's DL. Except, of course, for holding our guys. I was texting with another CIS poster who refs HS football in SoFla, and he kept calling out the holding. And, look, I understand WHY Notre Dame had to do it, I just wish that the refs had called it when it happened. Notre Dame had ONE holding penalty for the entire game. ONE. One hold while their OL was getting cooked by our DL. I would like to quote Ol' Dirty ******* here, but I won't. I truly believe that the ND coaches told the offense NOT to commit any penalties on the final drive, as they only had 64 seconds and no timeouts, meaning any penalty would result in a 10 second runoff. And sure enough, once the ND OL stopped holding our guys, we got two quick sacks to end the game.

Finally, the ND "best DBs in the country" claim was similar bull****. I guess these myths get built up when you whip a couple of service academies. But it was just insanity. I have no idea if the TV replays showed all the Miami incompletions, but I do know that every time the Miami fans saw the replays on the Jumbotron, they lost their **** and started calling for the refs to be killed. It was bad. The ND DBs would hold or hook or push our WRs right in front of the refs, and they didn't even move a hand towards their pockets as if they were Terry Porter making a 15 second deliberation by replaying the play in their tiny brains. It was bad. Carson would have completed 85% of his passes and broken 300 yards if our WRs weren't interfered with.

Fortunately, at the end of it all, the refs did NOT cost us the game. I will say, it was (darkly) hilarious to watch one of the refs decisively and definitively throw his flag on a Notre Dame OL holding penalty, only to confer with the other refs so that it could be announced that, you know, there was NOT actually a holding penalty on the play. These are not the droids you are looking for.

But, hey, it was soooooo encouraging to see the refs throw the flag on our player for continuing the play after his helmet came off. I was assured by our ref-poster that while this is the official rule, it is almost never called in real life. Not to mention that our player was IN THE MIDDLE OF 21 OTHER PLAYERS when his helmet came off. What in the **** was he supposed to do, run into the tunnel like the Oregon Duck? Give me a ******* break.

Thanks, refs, for keeping it close. Maybe now, Jimmy Johnson can get some closure after 40 years of being vilified for running up the score on hopeless and hapless Gerry Faust and his Notre Dame Crying Irish team.

I'll leave you with this. After the game, as I walked back to my car, I started arguing with an idiot Notre Dame fan who kept bragging about all the championships they have PLAYED FOR (and lost) over the past decade. I wasn't trying to argue with the guy, but many of you know it's hard for me to let an idiotic argument go without rebutting the **** out of it. So I congratulated the dip**** on all the "only white boys can play" titles that Notre Dame won back when Yale and Army were also winning championships and I happily told him that Notre Dame has failed to beat Miami in Miami for nearly 50 years and has failed to win a national championship for nearly 40 years (and even that one is questionable, given that Cleveland Gary not only DID NOT fumble, but the refs didn't even call it a fumble).

In conclusion, **** Notre Dame and the altar boy they rode in on. And I'm allowed to say that as a Catholic and a former altar boy.

**** Notre Dame, **** the Irish, **** their idiot fans for trying to create a fake-sequel "Catholics vs. Convicts" t-shirt with the "Tradition vs. Tuition" t-shirt (not a ******* joke, I saw a bunch of them), and most of all **** TOUCHDOWN JESUS, we have our own Baby Jesus.

God bless us all, Canes fans. Convicts, maybe. Victors, definitely.
 
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In conclusion, **** Notre Dame and the altar boy they rode in on that. And I'm allowed to say that as a Catholic and a former altar boy.
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Finally, the ND "best DBs in the country" claim was similar bull****. I guess these myths get built up when you whip a couple of service academies. But it was just insanity. I have no idea if the TV replays showed all the Miami incompletions, but I do know that every time the Miami fans saw the replays on the Jumbotron, they lost their **** and started calling for the refs to be killed. It was bad. The ND DBs would hold or hook or push our WRs right in front of the refs, and they didn't even move a hand towards their pockets as if they were Terry Porter making a 15 second deliberation by replaying the play in their tiny brains. It was bad. Carson would have completed 85% of his passes and broken 300 yards if our WRs weren't interfered with.
Think Dawson was too much of a gentlemen to say it explicitly, but after watching the presser I think the refs letting ND DBs get away with murder affected the way he called the game after we got up 21-7. Maybe I'm wrong. He also made it clear as day that he decided to lean on the run. Probably won't stop the Mario the Meddler conspiracy theories though.
 
Finally made it back home after some lengthy travels and way too much "wetness" for one weekend (pause, of course).

Haven't watched the replay yet, but I thought I'd share my reactions from sitting on the ND side and watching things you may not have seen on TV.

First, ND was definitely trying to get Miami players to lose their composure. Perhaps they thought Jacolby George was still on the roster. But early on, there were several minor skirmishes (one where a ND player grabbed our guy's facemask), and it became more than apparent that the refs were not going to do a god**** thing to regulate ND unless there was bloodshed (or a ND DB "accidentally" tackled our WR from behind while the ball was in the air).

Second, this ND "offensive line" bull****. Oh lord. While I gave the ND fans credit for the fact that most of their OL has played together for years, they just did not have the core strength or ability to hold off Miami's DL. Except, of course, for holding our guys. I was texting with another CIS poster who refs HS football in SoFla, and he kept calling out the holding. And, look, it understand WHY Notre Dame had to do it, I just wish that the refs had called it when it happened. Notre Dame had ONE holding penalty for the entire game. ONE. One hold while their OL was getting cooked by our DL. I would like to quote Ol' Dirty ******* here, but I won't. I truly believe that the ND coaches told the offense NOT to commit any penalties on the final drive, as they only had 64 seconds and no timeouts, meaning any penalty would result in a 10 second runoff. And sure enough, once the ND OL stopped holding our guys, we got two quick sacks to end the game.

Finally, the ND "best DBs in the country" claim was similar bull****. I guess these myths get built up when you whip a couple of service academies. But it was just insanity. I have no idea if the TV replays showed all the Miami incompletions, but I do know that every time the Miami fans saw the replays on the Jumbotron, they lost their **** and started calling for the refs to be killed. It was bad. The ND DBs would hold or hook or push our WRs right in front of the refs, and they didn't even move a hand towards their pockets as if they were Terry Porter making a 15 second deliberation by replaying the play in their tiny brains. It was bad. Carson would have completed 85% of his passes and broken 300 yards if our WRs weren't interfered with.

Fortunately, at the end of it all, the refs did NOT cost us the game. I will say, it was (darkly) hilarious to watch one of the refs decisively and definitively throw his flag on a Notre Dame OL holding penalty, only to confer with the other refs so that it could be announced that, you know, there was not actually a holding penalty on the play. These are not the droids you are looking for.

But, hey, it was soooooo encouraging to see the refs throw the flag on our player for continuing the play after his helmet came off. I was assured by our ref-poster that while this is the official rule, it is almost never called in real life. Not to mention that our player was IN THE MIDDLE OF 21 OTHER PLAYERS when his helmet came off. What in the **** was he supposed to do, run into the tunnel like the Oregon Duck? Give me a ******* break.

Thanks, refs, for keeping it close. Maybe now, Jimmy Johnson can get some closure after 40 years of being vilified for running up the score on hopeless and hapless Gerry Faust and his Notre Dame Crying Irish team.

I'll leave you with this. After the game, as I walked back to my car, I started arguing with an idiot Notre Dame fan who kept bragging about all the championships they have PLAYED FOR (and lost) over the past decade. I wasn't trying to argue with the guy, but many of you know it's hard for me to let an idiotic argument go without rebutting the **** out of it. So I congratulated the dip**** on all the "only white boys can play" titles that Notre Dame won back when Yale and Army were also winning championships and I happily told him that Notre Dame has failed to beat Miami in Miami for nearly 50 years and has failed to win a national championship for nearly 40 years (and even that one is questionable, given that Cleveland Gary not only DID NOT fumble, but the refs didn't even call it a fumble).

In conclusion, **** Notre Dame and the altar boy they rode in on. And I'm allowed to say that as a Catholic and a former altar boy.

**** Notre Dame, **** the Irish, **** their idiot fans for trying to create a fake-sequel "Catholics vs. Convicts" t-shirt with the "Tradition vs. Tuition" t-shirt (not a ******* joke, I saw a bunch of them), and most of all **** TOUCHDOWN JESUS, we have our own Baby Jesus.

God bless us all, Canes fans. Convicts, maybe. Victors, definitely.

Thank you for the mechanics you viewed from that perspective.

I'm just not clear on how you FEEL about the game and how it was played - and called . . .
 
Thank you for the mechanics you viewed from that perspective.

I'm just not clear on how you FEEL about the game and how it was played - and called . . .


To be more succinct...the refs made a **** sandwich where both pieces of bread were ****.

For the record, I hope nobody quotes my full post, because all it is going to be is asterisks...
 
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Don't forget the safeties, that weren't safeties.


Happened three separate times from three separate officiating crews.

This was a half-dozen blown P.I. calls (and another half-dozen blown holding calls) by the same crew.
 
I dont think I ever seen a flag for holding get picked up
that and to me the obvious intentional grounding(s). Yes they got it right and called them what they were but to me that was textbook. QB is getting tackled and he is randomly flailing the ball around right before he goes down specifically to avoid the sack, yet it took 5 minute conferences each time. It ends up the right call but also gave ND more time to get a play call and re-group when it should have been an immediate flag, walk em back, spot the ball.

When there was not a single penalty the entire first quarter after all the chippiness, I was fine with it, let the guys play and I thought that was going to be the tone, then quickly it became ticky-tack fouls were getting called
 
The miss personal foul when ND defender body slammed our player out of bounds and no flag. That was a drive stopper for sure.
 
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