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The Offenses We Played this Year

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UVA #1 (Tied #11 scoring offense)
Pitt #2 (#1 scoring offense)
UNC #9 (Tied #11 scoring offense)
Bama #13 (#4 scoring offense)
App State #17 (#17 scoring offense)
Michigan State #30 (Tied #26 scoring offense)
NC State #58 (#46 scoring offense)
GA Tech #62 (#66 scoring offense)

Some of this surprised me. And the remaining in total offense:

FSPoo #86 (70th)
VTech #110 (113th)
Duke #31 (90th)
 
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jackedaround said:
UVA #1 (Tied #11 scoring offense)
Pitt #2 (#1 scoring offense)
UNC #9 (Tied #11 scoring offense)
Bama #13 (#4 scoring offense)
App State #17 (#17 scoring offense)
Michigan State #30 (Tied #26 scoring offense)
NC State #58 (#46 scoring offense)
GA Tech #62 (#66 scoring offense)

Some of this surprised me.
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What are they ranked if you take out the guaranteed 30 points and 500 yards Diaz and co gift them?
 
This post will make people unhappy. They assume that teams score against Miami SOLELY because pour defense sucks. The reality these stats provide is that our defense is not good, but we have also played a lot of very good offenses, and amazingly held some of them below their season scoring averages; notably UVA and Pitt
 
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OldhamA said:
What are they ranked if you take out the guaranteed 30 points and 500 yards Diaz and co gift them?
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We held UVA and Pitt below their season averages. Doesn’t mean we are good.
Personally I think the bigger takeaway is that there is very little defense played in college football anywhere. Most of the best athletes are on offense and the rules dramatically favor the offense
 
I prefer using points scored and points allowed against fbs teams. Some teams move the ball well between the 20s but not down in the red zone. Look no further than how often we are not really effective when close. Just my opinion. Different people different ways of looking at things
 
swampcougar1 said:
I prefer using points scored and points allowed against fbs teams. Some teams move the ball well between the 20s but not down in the red zone. Look no further than how often we are not really effective when close. Just my opinion. Different people different ways of looking at things
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thats why i put in scoring offense. we still played 4 within the top 11.
 
The best way to measure offensive success is YPP, and only look at games vs FBS opponents.

It's not perfect (nothing is), but it's the best way to measure efficiency. When you combine it with Redzone performance, you'll find the best teams in YPP who are the best in the redzone usually score the most points. So, looking at our opponents:

Bama -- 22nd in YPP -- 3rd in scoring
App State -- 31st in YPP -- 19th in scoring
Michigan State -- 20th in YPP -- 28th in scoring
Virginia -- 4th in YPP -- 9th in scoring
North Carolina -- 5th in YPP -- 7th in scoring
NC State -- 56th in YPP -- 48th in scoring
Pitt -- 23rd in YPP -- 5th in scoring
Georgia Tech -- 49th in YPP -- 67th in scoring

So, for those scoring at home, we've played 6 of the 31 best offenses in the country in YPP (out of 8 games). 4 in the Top 22. Two in the Top 5.

We've also faced 6 of the Top 28 scoring offenses. 4 in the Top 9.

Regardless, some of the performances we've seen are flat-out unacceptable. I don't care who we're playing. We have enough blue-chip kids to play better on defense against a team like UVA than a team like, say, Wake Forest does. So they're either poor evals, or we're poorly coached. Or both.

BUT....you can't deny that we've faced some really good offenses. And the schedule metrics show this as well. 4 of the Top 9 scoring offenses in the country in 8 games is definitely a tough road.

Good thing, the next 3 teams are much more average or below than what we've seen so far. There was no reason to play as poor as we have to this point, but there is ZERO excuse for letting any of the next 3 teams light us up.
 
HurricaneHauk said:
If you hold a team to 30 and under that’s the goal in today’s football
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Pretty much. I think the number is 28.....there are 65 teams right now averaging 28.0 PPG or more. So that means exactly half the teams in the FBS average 28+, and half average less than that. If you can hold a team to 28 or less, you're doing well. The game is just so skewed to the offense.

Couple examples, Michigan State is in the Top 10, they're 44th in the country in scoring defense. Oregon is 49th, and they're currently in the playoff. Sure, there's someone like UGA out there, who is just flat-out elite on both sides, but the game has shifted almost entirely to the offense.
 
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305407cane said:
I think the big ten has a solid collection of above average coaches:
Kirk ferentz
Harbaugh
Ryan day
Mel tucker
Paul chryst
Schiano
Franklin
Beliema

Not necessarily great offenses. But I wouldn’t label either of those guys corches
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Beliema??? Hamburgerhelper back?

Go Canes!
 
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