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Getting away with not paying the players is a ticking time bomb. If the NCAA was smart, which they aren't, they'll get ahead of this before control is taken from them.

But they wont. They'll continue to feed themselves like pigs at the money trough, then bemoan later how greedy players ruined college sports.

www.forbes.com

College Football’s Most Valuable Teams: Reigning Champion Clemson Tigers Claw Into Top 25

Clemson’s on-field dominance has been paying off—the No. 1 team in the country now generates nearly $80 million per year in revenue, ranking the Tigers among the sport’s most valuable teams for the first time.
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Canedog said:
The players are getting paid. Tax free bags yo.
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Plus there are over 100 teams - that's only the top 25 making big money. Many don't. You pay, you need to cut the teams WAY back because the landscape, already not competitive for most, would get even worse.

If you look at the anatomy, it shows about 1/4 of the income is donations. That should be completely eliminated from the equation because those are donations and not money being generated by the amateur sport itself from TV or ticket sales.
 
Paid or not off the field, they all get paid handsomely as it is.

Free tuition, room and board, food, full health coverage, and leave school with zero debt.

How many people can say that? That is a very rich reward for a lot of players who would be lucky to get into a community college, but were able to get into a university with relaxed standards for athletes.

Yes, college football generates a lot of money. Most schools don't even turn much of a profit though besides the bigs and a dozen others.
 
SayWhat said:
Paid or not off the field, they all get paid handsomely as it is.

Free tuition, room and board, food, full health coverage, and leave school with zero debt.

How many people can say that? That is a very rich reward for a lot of players who would be lucky to get into a community college, but were able to get into a university with relaxed standards for athletes.

Yes, college football generates a lot of money. Most schools don't even turn much of a profit though besides the bigs and a dozen others.
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You understand that college football is a multi-BILLION dollar industry subsidized by taxpayers and propped up by federal, state, and local public policy, right? The value that student-athlete provides far outpaces the modest indirect payment that they receive while the institutions they play for (and their business partners, consultants, and intermediaries) are making money hand over first.

I bet you believe professional athletes get paid too much as well. For every $100M contract, there is an owner that is making $300M off his back.
 
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What sucks the most is our brand is one of the most recognizable in sports and our AD doesn't run this program like a business.

We should be marketing the **** out of it and playing as many games as possible like the rest of the big boys because we have the money to do so.

Flake aint about that life.
 
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Manuel Diez said:
You understand that college football is a multi-BILLION dollar industry subsidized by taxpayers and propped up by federal, state, and local public policy, right? The value that student-athlete provides far outpaces the modest indirect payment that they receive while the institutions they play for (and their business partners, consultants, and intermediaries) are making money hand over first.

I bet you believe professional athletes get paid too much as well. For every $100M contract, there is an owner that is making $300M of his back.
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Modest? That's a ridiculous characterization of all the benefits they receive for their participation on an athletic team playing a game. Did the proletariat headquarters provide you with these talking points?

Socialist screed aside, what may happen if paying players becomes reality? If athletes are going to be paid, who chooses which players get paid? The fair market? How much? Football players get more than field hockey? Does a "basketball" school pay more for basketball players than a "football" school does? Do women get the same stipend as men? Title IV won't just go away. How many sports teams will be discontinued due to the lack of funding at smaller schools? Olympic sports get the same pay as the money makers? Of course none of this will trickle down to the high school level. It already has but at least it has been shunned and has repercussions (if caught). What happens to penalties if there are no scholarship reductions anymore? Current players pay for past players "crimes" by forfeiture or post season bans? I could go on.

The current system? Corrupt, no question. Is it fair to the players? I think so. They're not forced into anything. They get benefits beyond what any of us regular schulbs got in college. I worked my way through school and then paid back my loans. The cost of school has skyrocketed. If you want to talk about propping up something with tax dollars and policy you should focus there. But that's a discussion for an off-topic thread.
 
Manuel Diez said:
You understand that college football is a multi-BILLION dollar industry subsidized by taxpayers and propped up by federal, state, and local public policy, right? The value that student-athlete provides far outpaces the modest indirect payment that they receive while the institutions they play for (and their business partners, consultants, and intermediaries) are making money hand over first.

I bet you believe professional athletes get paid too much as well. For every $100M contract, there is an owner that is making $300M of his back.
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Then pays $299M in overhead and other costs, employing hundreds and contributing to the local economy.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
This is absurd. And, because you believe they would be lucky to get into a community college then it’s alright to treat them as second-class students?

Reciprocity and market value are totally different things. Players currently are forced to trade athletic talents for a scholarship AND LIMITED student activities. No other scholarship students have the same restrictions as athletes do.

This topic always brings out the people who hate scholarship athletes.
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No, THIS is absurd. They aren't forced to do anything. If they don't like the deal they don't have to take it.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
This is absurd. And, because you believe they would be lucky to get into a community college then it’s alright to treat them as second-class students?

Reciprocity and market value are totally different things. Players currently are forced to trade athletic talents for a scholarship AND LIMITED student activities. No other scholarship students have the same restrictions as athletes do.

This topic always brings out the people who hate scholarship athletes.
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That one word negates everything you wrote in that paragraph. No one is forced to do anything. They can excel in the classroom and get scholarships.

If you're talking about situations like the NCAA coming down on athletes selling a school-provided something in order to have food to eat, I think we can agree that is a problem. However, that doesn't mean the solution is that players have to be paid.

Also, "second-class students?" Explain.
 
Manuel Diez said:
You understand that college football is a multi-BILLION dollar industry subsidized by taxpayers and propped up by federal, state, and local public policy, right? The value that student-athlete provides far outpaces the modest indirect payment that they receive while the institutions they play for (and their business partners, consultants, and intermediaries) are making money hand over first.

I bet you believe professional athletes get paid too much as well. For every $100M contract, there is an owner that is making $300M of his back.
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You understand there is not an "owner" in college football that is banking all of this money, right? This money is used by schools and conferences for scholarships, students assistance programs, academic enhancement funds, educational programs, etc.. It's as if you think presidents and board members are collecting 9 figure salaries. If you want to bash coaching salaries go right ahead, but you are living in a vacuum if you think the players should reap a good portion of these profits and it wont have a huge negative impact on how universities operate, particularly the smaller schools who rely on these funds to stay afloat.
 
caneworld said:
....proves that we should have thrown ton of more money at coaching hires than settling for blue light specials like Randy and Al Folden... would have been raking in millions
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Most, if not all, of the teams you see on the list are from conferences that have had tv deals in place for a little while now. Same with Notre Dame. Here’s hoping the ACCDn takes off and fans respond well to it. Because that’s where the real money lies. We can’t compete with the state schools regarding enrollment, alumni, etc. the only way up for Miami is to climb back to national prominence again and secure revenue from the tv deal. We don’t have Dee pocket boosters like these other schools do either.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
This is absurd. And, because you believe they would be lucky to get into a community college then it’s alright to treat them as second-class students?

Reciprocity and market value are totally different things. Players currently are forced to trade athletic talents for a scholarship AND LIMITED student activities. No other scholarship students have the same restrictions as athletes do.

This topic always brings out the people who hate scholarship athletes.
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If this is some kind of forced slavery, why do high school football players throw parties on signing day? It's because they know they are going to live like kings for four years.
 
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Go Canes!! said:
Getting away with not paying the players is a ticking time bomb. If the NCAA was smart, which they aren't, they'll get ahead of this before control is taken from them.

But they wont. They'll continue to feed themselves like pigs at the money trough, then bemoan later how greedy players ruined college sports.

www.forbes.com

College Football’s Most Valuable Teams: Reigning Champion Clemson Tigers Claw Into Top 25

Clemson’s on-field dominance has been paying off—the No. 1 team in the country now generates nearly $80 million per year in revenue, ranking the Tigers among the sport’s most valuable teams for the first time.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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Billion dollar organization$- Industry making an killing literally off of poor inner city and good old small town country kids.

See my profile pic-You all already know how I feel about this!
 
321>CANES<305 said:
Billion dollar organization$- Industry making an killing literally off of poor inner city and good old small town country kids.

See my profile pic-You all already know how I feel about this!
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What if we didn't have college football and left those poor inner city kids to survive on their own?
 
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