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The Heartbreaks In Recruiting That Came Back To Haunt Golden

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In the game of college football, each recruiting cycle is precious because you gotta hit on those key guys. I'm sure there are threads on this topic illustrating all of the misses over Golden's tenure, but I wanted to look at THEE guy who Golden couldn't afford to miss over each cycle as that miss came back to haunt him.

2011: Thee guy who we couldn't afford to miss here is obviously Jacoby Brissett. Brissett would have probably beaten out Stephen Morris when Jacory Harris left. Not landing Brissett set Miami back at the money position for 3 years. I believe with Brissett under center, Miami would have won the coastal last year and this year.

2012: As I think about it, it pains me deeply that Golden couldn't hit on Amari Cooper. Coming out of Miami Northwestern which is normally a pipeline for Miami. Talk about program changing talent. Can you imagine Miami having Brissett throwing to Amari Cooper? No way around it, Cooper was the can't miss 2012.

2013: Man, you have to think what if we had Alex Collins. That would have been the lethal 1-2 punch that Miami needed this year in the backfield. Lets face it, when Duke Johnson had to go against more physical defenses, he was slowed some, but if Alex Collins could have shared some of the load, we could have won those physical games against Nebraska, Louisville and FSU.

2014: Not sure what the whole story was with Travonte Valentine, even though supposedly his grades/test scores weren't that great, but Valentine was a can't miss. I know he didn't prove anything thus far at the college level, but not being able to sign this guy was damaging to the talent level of the position and IMO a set back. It is still very bothersome that LSU was able to just take him away like that. At a position that hasn't seen that "grown *** man" caliber player since Big Vince, he would have definitely made an early impact, should he have made it in. This loss is haunting Golden right now.
 
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You left out his first gigantic failure, Teddy Bridgewater. A coach worth an ounce of **** would have reeled him in. Instead he committed Louisville a couple of days after meeting Al. Everyone should have known right there that Al wasn't cut out for this.
 
NFL guys all over the ******* field. Yeah you can always use more but he had enough to produce a top 15 team. The only thing that is coming back to haunt him is the fact he sucks ****.
 
Dan E. Dangerously said:
You left out his first gigantic failure, Teddy Bridgewater. A coach worth an ounce of **** would have reeled him in. Instead he committed Louisville a couple of days after meeting Al. Everyone should have known right there that Al wasn't cut out for this.
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Blame Shannon for not getting Brisset, Shannon promised Teddy he'd be the only the QB in the class

What do you expect Brisset to do when no one from Miami was recruiting him until the last few weeks of the recruiting cycle
 
Dan E. Dangerously said:
You left out his first gigantic failure, Teddy Bridgewater. A coach worth an ounce of **** would have reeled him in. Instead he committed Louisville a couple of days after meeting Al. Everyone should have known right there that Al wasn't cut out for this.
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Teddy was undoubtedly the biggest loss in the last 4 years. But from what I understand, when Clint Hurrt left for Louisville, he told Teddy that the ship was about to sink and that his best bet was to follow him.
 
Ummm you just named all offensive players except for Valentine.

Not a single one of those guys would have made a difference to this teams W-L record.
 
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Alex Collins would have left the program after one year under Golden.

Collins is a different kid of kid. Almost flamed out under Beliama who is anything but a disciplinarian.
 
canesman said:
Ummm you just named all offensive players except for Valentine.

Not a single one of those guys would have made a difference to this teams W-L record.
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You don't at least think landing all 3 of Brissett, Cooper and Alex Collins wouldn't have made a difference? Miami would have at least won the coastal the last 2 years.
 
Ayeplus said:
In the game of college football, each recruiting cycle is precious because you gotta hit on those key guys. I'm sure there are threads on this topic illustrating all of the misses over Golden's tenure, but I wanted to look at THEE guy who Golden couldn't afford to miss over each cycle as that miss came back to haunt him.

2011: Thee guy who we couldn't afford to miss here is obviously Jacoby Brissett. Brissett would have probably beaten out Stephen Morris when Jacory Harris left. Not landing Brissett set Miami back at the money position for 3 years. I believe with Brissett under center, Miami would have won the coastal last year and this year.

2012: As I think about it, it pains me deeply that Golden couldn't hit on Amari Cooper. Coming out of Miami Northwestern which is normally a pipeline for Miami. Talk about program changing talent. Can you imagine Miami having Brissett throwing to Amari Cooper? No way around it, Cooper was the can't miss 2012.

2013: Man, you have to think what if we had Alex Collins. That would have been the lethal 1-2 punch that Miami needed this year in the backfield. Lets face it, when Duke Johnson had to go against more physical defenses, he was slowed some, but if Alex Collins could have shared some of the load, we could have won those physical games against Nebraska, Louisville and FSU.

2014: Not sure what the whole story was with Travonte Valentine, even though supposedly his grades/test scores weren't that great, but Valentine was a can't miss. I know he didn't prove anything thus far at the college level, but not being able to sign this guy was damaging to the talent level of the position and IMO a set back. It is still very bothersome that LSU was able to just take him away like that. At a position that hasn't seen that "grown *** man" caliber player since Big Vince, he would have definitely made an early impact, should he have made it in. This loss is haunting Golden right now.
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First off how can a coach miss on a kid if he brought the full house and the kid still CHOSE to go elsewhere? Brissett got the red carpet treatment and his mom wanted him at UM but he got swayed his coach who was a former gator to go to UF where he made the wrong decision obviously.

2012: Golden and staff recruited Cooper but guess what Amari Cooper is 1st cousin to Aldarius Johnson....yes the same Aldarius Johnson that got kicked off the team for lying about his involvement in the Shapiro scandal so you think when Cooper went to him for advice you think Johnson told him go to UM? Let your common sense answer that

2013 Alex Collins- Again a kid that Golden and staff recruited hard til the end but got shafted cause they didn't toss Collins coach a few dollars like Bret did.

2014- You obviously know that Valentine didn't have the freakin grades if he couldn't get enrolled into LSU. Once again ignite your common sense to think.


If you want to about players that haunted us let's talk about Shannon missing on a TON of guys that we saw excelled at other institutions like Denard Robinson, Charles Gaines, Devonta Freeman, and many many many more. Let's bring that to the forefront
 
CentralRockets2000 said:
Ayeplus said:
In the game of college football, each recruiting cycle is precious because you gotta hit on those key guys. I'm sure there are threads on this topic illustrating all of the misses over Golden's tenure, but I wanted to look at THEE guy who Golden couldn't afford to miss over each cycle as that miss came back to haunt him.

2011: Thee guy who we couldn't afford to miss here is obviously Jacoby Brissett. Brissett would have probably beaten out Stephen Morris when Jacory Harris left. Not landing Brissett set Miami back at the money position for 3 years. I believe with Brissett under center, Miami would have won the coastal last year and this year.

2012: As I think about it, it pains me deeply that Golden couldn't hit on Amari Cooper. Coming out of Miami Northwestern which is normally a pipeline for Miami. Talk about program changing talent. Can you imagine Miami having Brissett throwing to Amari Cooper? No way around it, Cooper was the can't miss 2012.

2013: Man, you have to think what if we had Alex Collins. That would have been the lethal 1-2 punch that Miami needed this year in the backfield. Lets face it, when Duke Johnson had to go against more physical defenses, he was slowed some, but if Alex Collins could have shared some of the load, we could have won those physical games against Nebraska, Louisville and FSU.

2014: Not sure what the whole story was with Travonte Valentine, even though supposedly his grades/test scores weren't that great, but Valentine was a can't miss. I know he didn't prove anything thus far at the college level, but not being able to sign this guy was damaging to the talent level of the position and IMO a set back. It is still very bothersome that LSU was able to just take him away like that. At a position that hasn't seen that "grown *** man" caliber player since Big Vince, he would have definitely made an early impact, should he have made it in. This loss is haunting Golden right now.
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First off how can a coach miss on a kid if he brought the full house and the kid still CHOSE to go elsewhere? Brissett got the red carpet treatment and his mom wanted him at UM but he got swayed his coach who was a former gator to go to UF where he made the wrong decision obviously.

2012: Golden and staff recruited Cooper but guess what Amari Cooper is 1st cousin to Aldarius Johnson....yes the same Aldarius Johnson that got kicked off the team for lying about his involvement in the Shapiro scandal so you think when Cooper went to him for advice you think Johnson told him go to UM? Let your common sense answer that

2013 Alex Collins- Again a kid that Golden and staff recruited hard til the end but got shafted cause they didn't toss Collins coach a few dollars like Bret did.

2014- You obviously know that Valentine didn't have the freakin grades if he couldn't get enrolled into LSU. Once again ignite your common sense to think.


If you want to about players that haunted us let's talk about Shannon missing on a TON of guys that we saw excelled at other institutions like Denard Robinson, Charles Gaines, Devonta Freeman, and many many many more. Let's bring that to the forefront
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Ah yes, another "absolutely nothing is Al Golden's fault" themed post.
 
Golden still finds a way to lose 5 games this year even if he hits on all these kids and then some. They'd still be in the same ****** defensive scheme and dealing with conservative offensive play calling against any team with a pulse. Then, any one of these kids that dared to make a play on defense, would be on the sideline watching Fentress play. Sure, not getting these recruits hurts. But even without them, this team should have won 10 games this year. If Golden needs to land the number one recruiting class every year, in order to get to 10 wins in a season and to win the coastal, recruiting ain't the problem.
 
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CentralRockets2000 said:
Ayeplus said:
In the game of college football, each recruiting cycle is precious because you gotta hit on those key guys. I'm sure there are threads on this topic illustrating all of the misses over Golden's tenure, but I wanted to look at THEE guy who Golden couldn't afford to miss over each cycle as that miss came back to haunt him.

2011: Thee guy who we couldn't afford to miss here is obviously Jacoby Brissett. Brissett would have probably beaten out Stephen Morris when Jacory Harris left. Not landing Brissett set Miami back at the money position for 3 years. I believe with Brissett under center, Miami would have won the coastal last year and this year.

2012: As I think about it, it pains me deeply that Golden couldn't hit on Amari Cooper. Coming out of Miami Northwestern which is normally a pipeline for Miami. Talk about program changing talent. Can you imagine Miami having Brissett throwing to Amari Cooper? No way around it, Cooper was the can't miss 2012.

2013: Man, you have to think what if we had Alex Collins. That would have been the lethal 1-2 punch that Miami needed this year in the backfield. Lets face it, when Duke Johnson had to go against more physical defenses, he was slowed some, but if Alex Collins could have shared some of the load, we could have won those physical games against Nebraska, Louisville and FSU.

2014: Not sure what the whole story was with Travonte Valentine, even though supposedly his grades/test scores weren't that great, but Valentine was a can't miss. I know he didn't prove anything thus far at the college level, but not being able to sign this guy was damaging to the talent level of the position and IMO a set back. It is still very bothersome that LSU was able to just take him away like that. At a position that hasn't seen that "grown *** man" caliber player since Big Vince, he would have definitely made an early impact, should he have made it in. This loss is haunting Golden right now.
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First off how can a coach miss on a kid if he brought the full house and the kid still CHOSE to go elsewhere? Brissett got the red carpet treatment and his mom wanted him at UM but he got swayed his coach who was a former gator to go to UF where he made the wrong decision obviously.

2012: Golden and staff recruited Cooper but guess what Amari Cooper is 1st cousin to Aldarius Johnson....yes the same Aldarius Johnson that got kicked off the team for lying about his involvement in the Shapiro scandal so you think when Cooper went to him for advice you think Johnson told him go to UM? Let your common sense answer that

2013 Alex Collins- Again a kid that Golden and staff recruited hard til the end but got shafted cause they didn't toss Collins coach a few dollars like Bret did.

2014- You obviously know that Valentine didn't have the freakin grades if he couldn't get enrolled into LSU. Once again ignite your common sense to think.


If you want to about players that haunted us let's talk about Shannon missing on a TON of guys that we saw excelled at other institutions like Denard Robinson, Charles Gaines, Devonta Freeman, and many many many more. Let's bring that to the forefront
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Ah yes, another "absolutely nothing is Al Golden's fault" themed post.
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Naw...just a realest that is able to stand on his own opinion and not jump on people's ****s like you do. Formulate your own opinion and stick with it whether it is for or against AG. I could care less
 
Talent isn't the problem. Many coaches with this same team are getting ready to play FSU tomorrow as a favorite or pick em. The problem is somewhat cultural, and somewhat philosophical. Only way to change it is to bring in a new coach.
 
CentralRockets2000 said:
Ayeplus said:
In the game of college football, each recruiting cycle is precious because you gotta hit on those key guys. I'm sure there are threads on this topic illustrating all of the misses over Golden's tenure, but I wanted to look at THEE guy who Golden couldn't afford to miss over each cycle as that miss came back to haunt him.

2011: Thee guy who we couldn't afford to miss here is obviously Jacoby Brissett. Brissett would have probably beaten out Stephen Morris when Jacory Harris left. Not landing Brissett set Miami back at the money position for 3 years. I believe with Brissett under center, Miami would have won the coastal last year and this year.

2012: As I think about it, it pains me deeply that Golden couldn't hit on Amari Cooper. Coming out of Miami Northwestern which is normally a pipeline for Miami. Talk about program changing talent. Can you imagine Miami having Brissett throwing to Amari Cooper? No way around it, Cooper was the can't miss 2012.

2013: Man, you have to think what if we had Alex Collins. That would have been the lethal 1-2 punch that Miami needed this year in the backfield. Lets face it, when Duke Johnson had to go against more physical defenses, he was slowed some, but if Alex Collins could have shared some of the load, we could have won those physical games against Nebraska, Louisville and FSU.

2014: Not sure what the whole story was with Travonte Valentine, even though supposedly his grades/test scores weren't that great, but Valentine was a can't miss. I know he didn't prove anything thus far at the college level, but not being able to sign this guy was damaging to the talent level of the position and IMO a set back. It is still very bothersome that LSU was able to just take him away like that. At a position that hasn't seen that "grown *** man" caliber player since Big Vince, he would have definitely made an early impact, should he have made it in. This loss is haunting Golden right now.
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First off how can a coach miss on a kid if he brought the full house and the kid still CHOSE to go elsewhere? Brissett got the red carpet treatment and his mom wanted him at UM but he got swayed his coach who was a former gator to go to UF where he made the wrong decision obviously.

2012: Golden and staff recruited Cooper but guess what Amari Cooper is 1st cousin to Aldarius Johnson....yes the same Aldarius Johnson that got kicked off the team for lying about his involvement in the Shapiro scandal so you think when Cooper went to him for advice you think Johnson told him go to UM? Let your common sense answer that

2013 Alex Collins- Again a kid that Golden and staff recruited hard til the end but got shafted cause they didn't toss Collins coach a few dollars like Bret did.

2014- You obviously know that Valentine didn't have the freakin grades if he couldn't get enrolled into LSU. Once again ignite your common sense to think.


If you want to about players that haunted us let's talk about Shannon missing on a TON of guys that we saw excelled at other institutions like Denard Robinson, Charles Gaines, Devonta Freeman, and many many many more. Let's bring that to the forefront
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First off, Aldarius Johnson's career at Miami got railroaded by Shannon, not Golden.

Alex Collins heart was with Miami, but he naively felt like he owed his coach a solid by signing with Arkansas due to how his coach sheltered and took to him. Mom knew of how it was going down and she felt like her son was being pimped. I live in Plantation so I' ran into plenty who know how this went down.

It is what it is with Valentine I guess.
 
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