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The ACC and Notre Dame caused this chaos! The ACC deserves the brunt of the criticism putting two mid level teams in the conference championship. We all know Virginia and Duke were not the best in the league. Miami, GT, Pitt and ND were all better Let’s face it, ND is a ACC school playing six ACC opponents in football. Despite denying not being in the league on the football side of things. Never should have happened! Here’s the truth, ND would have played in the ACC championship game, had they made normal arrangements, with a real shot of making the playoffs. They should’ve played the best team meaning Miami then that would’ve open to door for Vandy with JMU out. The ACC screwed Miami, ND and next best team.

What makes Notre Dame a joke is the recent comment that the ACC “ caused permanent damage”. STFU! They negotiated that deal! Whoopsie! It backed fired, now they want to point the finger while they were snickering after that ACC weird arrangement. They thought they outsmarted the system and got burned. I have zero sympathy for them after their comments.


Also, the committee/Alabama connection needs to be investigated! Last year the committee said idle teams shouldn’t move in the rankings. This year they said losing a conference championship shouldn’t be punished. Well those contradicting statements only favor one team both years. Alabama!
 
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The ACC and commissioner did not do nearly enough to defend Miami outside of the network itself.

Notre Dame complaining about the conference is only because they won’t go after the real issue…the SEC since they helped negotiate the ND guaranteed spot if a part of the top-12 that kicks in next year. Seems like ND is using this all as an excuse to try to break with the ACC, which must have already been on their mind.
 
holdnorth said:
The ACC and Notre Dame caused this chaos! The ACC deserves the brunt of the criticism putting two mid level teams in the conference championship. We all know Virginia and Duke were not the best in the league. Miami, GT, Pitt and ND were all better Let’s face it, ND is a ACC school playing six ACC opponents in football. Despite denying not being in the league on the football side of things. Never should have happened! Here’s the truth, ND would have played in the ACC championship game, had they made normal arrangements, with a real shot of making the playoffs. They should’ve played the best team meaning Miami then that would’ve open to door for Vandy with JMU out. The ACC screwed Miami, ND and next best team.

What makes Notre Dame a joke is the recent comment that the ACC “ caused permanent damage”. STFU! They negotiated that deal! Whoopsie! It backed fired, now they want to point the finger while they were snickering after that ACC weird arrangement. They thought they outsmarted the system and got burned. I have zero sympathy for them after their comments.


Also, the committee/Alabama connection needs to be investigated! Last year the committee said idle teams shouldn’t move in the rankings. This year they said losing a conference championship shouldn’t be punished. Well those contradicting statements only favor one team both years. Alabama!
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Virginia was absolutely the right team. The tiebreaker was the problem.
 
Why the **** would the ACC allow Notre Dame to play in the conference championship game? They aren’t a member of the conference. If they won and went to the CFP, they would have kept 100% of the payout whereas every other team who actually plays in a conference would have to split some of the revenue with the conference. Everyone else plays 8 conference games (9 if you’re Virginia) why should Notre Dame only get to play 6?

Over the years, Notre Dame has had countless chances to join multiple conferences and every time they turn down offers because they want to keep 100% of their revenue. So they can keep 100% of their “we’re opting out of a bowl” revenue this year.
 
I posted this in the other thread. Its long but I believe it's the way to end Notre Dame from college football until there's a super league.

This is what the ACC should do if Notre Dame really want to see what it's like if the ACC wants to push their **** in.

The ACC should offer Notre Dame to be able to completely walk away from the ACC if they are so butthurt and angry at the ACC. Notre Dame being the whiny ******* they are, would immediately agree to this.

This would mean no conference home for them in all other sports besides football and ice hockey.

And this is how the power 4 conferences will give Notre Dame the biggest middle finger diddling ND's bunghole. End the Notre Dame scheduling six ACC teams a year agreement for football. Proceed to call all other power four conference commissioners and come to an agreement that all of their member schools will refuse to schedule football games vs Notre Dame in the regular season. I would also have all power 4 conferences agree to not sign an agreement with Notre Dame for other sports as well and if Notre Dame ever wants to join a power 4 conference full time, decline ND.

Notre Dame would be forced to play group of 5 teams for football since no power 4 team will play them ever again. Notre Dame would have to end up joining a group of 5 conference LOL. Their football program would be completely crushed as well as all of their other sports.

Even if Notre Dame begs and pleads to join a power 4 conference for all sports even football when they realize they have been completely ****ed, give Notre Dame the middle finger. Destroy this elitist prick school's athletic department forever. They believe they are above everyone and they aren't. Show Notre Dame that no one needs them and no one wants them.

When Notre Dame sues the conferences for collusion, present evidence that Notre Dame wants to be independent so let them be independent. They can stand alone all by themselves or join a group of 5 conference. But shut them out of the power 4 conferences for good if they want to act like entitled pricks. No conference needs to deal with their spoiled princess tantrums when they don't get their way.
 
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ND might have a deal to play 6 ACC teams in the regular season but the bigger issue is that ND gets to keep the whole post season money to themselves instead of having to share it like the rest of ACC.. So it is in the ACC's interest to support Miami who brings the post season $$
 
holdnorth said:
Wrong! They didn’t count the loss to NC State.
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As they should NOT have counted it. They already had 8 scheduled games. It's a one-time anomaly that people need to get over.

Let's not forget, 7-2 is BETTER than 6-2.
 
Salt said:
further complicated by the fact they played NC State and lost but did not count as a conference loss. Otherwise you have a 6 way tie
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Wrong. If you count that game, UVa is 7-2, which is still a better record than the 5 teams sitting at 6-2.

Math.
 
caneworld said:
ND might have a deal to play 6 ACC teams in the regular season but the bigger issue is that ND gets to keep the whole post season money to themselves instead of having to share it like the rest of ACC.. So it is in the ACC's interest to support Miami who brings the post season $$
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The deal is for five games. They played six ACC teams this year because our game was scheduled as an OOC game.

Kind of like the UVA-NCST game.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Wrong. If you count that game, UVa is 7-2, which is still a better record than the 5 teams sitting at 6-2.

Math.
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You can’t count that game. The conference didn’t schedule it. The teams did like we scheduled UF. It’s not the first time that happens. Teams have done it to preserve rivalries.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Wrong. If you count that game, UVa is 7-2, which is still a better record than the 5 teams sitting at 6-2.

Math.
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Ok so Virginia got in. So what! That has nothing to do with my original point. ND and the ACC screwed the whole system. Are you now going to tell us how great the tie breaking rules are.
 
Their beef should be with the Bama and the committee...not with the ACC (or Miami but they're really not complaining so much about us getting in). The Athletic had a good piece about it:

"Imagine a 10-2 Mississippi State getting splattered 28-7 in the SEC championship, rushing for negative yardage while already bearing a 31-17 loss to a 5-7 team. Do you think this hypothetical MSU would then be the extremely rare team to remain ranked exactly where it was beforehand? Do you think there's anyone besides Alabama that would've taken zero damage from such a faceplant?"

"Bama is 40 points away from being undefeated. Notre Dame is six away, and preferred over the Tide by the power ratings, the AP Top 25 plus pretty much everyone except the committee. Two-loss BYU's also ahead of Bama in ESPN's own resume ratings and several other metrics. But with no football-based explanation for why Alabama is again the team that can do no wrong, all we have are conspiracy theories. Healthy sport, as always."
 
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