StormSurge Podcast on point with current state of program

[millertime26]

I think people really look at recruiting as if it’s just rankings and not actual human beings.

Find the type of athlete that you want and recruit that type of player that fits your scheme and what you want to do.

These kids are humans. If you’re target is “6’3+ WR who run under 4.5” then that should be your target. With obvious exceptions to the rule.

No matter what people say height and weight DO make a difference in sports no matter what level you play at.

There are things Calvin Johnson can do that Antonio Brown couldn’t dream of and vice versa.

If you field a team full of 5 star 5’7 corners and I field a team full of 6-5 WRs and 6-6, 6-7, TEs I bet you we several jump balls that perfect coverage can’t do anything against.

That’s whats been happening when Bandy gets beat. He always has good position and leverage but sometimes going against bigger and more physical men you may take your Ls every now and then. I mentioned this in the preseason.

If we had competent outside corners you’d like to see bandy in the nickel and covering the slot more.

I have always believed that Miami needed to field a team and run schemes that fit the personnel of our recruiting base.

South Florida has speed, some of the fastest athletes in the nation come out of here.

To me at the college level you take the Al Davis speed approach with Miami. Recruit fast quick twitch athletes. Play base cover 1 man. Dare opponent to beat your team speed.

Quick smaller south Florida LBs. The 230-250lb Linebackers aren’t growing on trees in south Florida. Plenty of speedy 190-215 kids are running that can hit the college weight room and play around 220 and maintain speed.

I always loved Jordan Miller because of his pure size. It’s hard to block those guys. While there are some outstanding quick 280lb DTs in the NFL give me the Haloti Ngatas. 6’5 330-350 super strong and literally a load to block type DTs.

With smaller quicker DEs. From 220-280lb

Run a offense scheme based on speed. For the reasons stated above. We have always had at least one burner on every roster at WR. This year we have a bunch and don’t use them correctly.

Once you create an identity, identify the players that fit what you want to do, land those players you will see the wins pile up

Love this.

 

[kryptonite]

I think Manny had a budget, and of course it’s his fault how he managed it, but he saw how bad the O was a spent the majority of it on Enos, and I know he had to pay up for Fields and POOF there went the budget. That being said I don’t think the budget is anywhere close to where it needs to be to be successful.

Say he hits a few diamonds in the rough (he hasn’t) and bigger schools come spending they will be gone. Hartley originally passed up an opportunity for more money because he loved Miami. Not many of those cats out here

I can't blame him for thinking if he just fixed the offense everything would be peachy. Isn't that what all of us thought? Turns out it's not so simple.

 

[MiamiChris]

I can't blame him for thinking if he just fixed the offense everything would be peachy. Isn't that what all of us thought? Turns out it's not so simple.

Totally agree, I think problem is he let Enos pick some of his guys (like most CEO HC do, and that’s what I wanted) but turns out Enos sucks at it

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Really enjoy listening to there Podcast and the one that dropped today was in my opinion on POINT. Kev on the Podcast had a come to Jesus moment and said the following. Obviously all these point have been brought up at some point and just further pushes the fact AD and Administration is to blame.

Points Made

-Lazy hire- No actual coaching search happened, and if it did was so quick and so small.

The position coaches ARE doing the best they can, but it’s not good enough at Miami. With the lack of money they give Manny to use on staff and like mentioned before with his small network he wasn’t going to hire a killer staff. He’s getting what he paid for obviously minus Enos. Staff is a bunch of Nobodies but that’s what Manny was hand tied with. To get any big time coordinator or position coach we would have had to over pay and admin would not allow this.

Florida is about to raid S Fla and it’s not because Mullin is a good recruiter, he actually is terrible but it’s because they win and kids see there players getting better.

-There is a price to pay to be great, and that usually a coach who doesn’t care about Administration and does everything his way. And admin is ever going to hire a coach like that because they want a coach they can control. We will never see a Mike Leach, Urban or Jimmy Johnson coaching this team.

-Administration will always be there because they are making money. Season ticket sales are at a high and program is going everything the right way off the field. Only way to prove a point is for stadium to be empty and that’s never going to happen.

Things aren’t going to get better unless new admin is in place

— Wasn't a "lazy" hire as much as a hamstrung hire due to timing and circumstance. Do you blow it all up with the hopes of finding someone available first week of January—knowing you could potentially strike out—or do you keep (bring back) the one facet of the program that has been completely successful the past three seasons. The Diaz hire was lower-risk—but it wasn't "lazy". This program did it's deep dives and searches in the past and it yielded ****.

Schiano turned it down in 2006 and nobody but Shannon wanted it. Golden was a finalist with Trestman and Edsall. Richt fell into Miami's lap because of the timing with Georgia, but prior-to there were no solid names being tossed around, despite getting rid of Golden late October and starting a search.

Again, there's a disconnect with this fan base regarding what they program really is (desirability-wise) versus what some perceive it to be.


— It's year one. The main area of focus was an anemic offense; and a $1.2M proposed solution came in the form of a guy at Alabama that Saban wanted to turn the keys over to this season. Will Enos get it done with lesser talent—we'll see—but let it play out.

Diaz thought the defense would be in good hands with his influence and some guys he trusts. Five games in, it's off—so he's addressing it and getting more hands on. Should that not work, wouldn't be surprised if he shakes things up.

Again, three losses in and everyone has already forgotten some of his off-season moves and **** they were praising him for the past few months—striating with coming in day one and firing the entire offensive staff.

Diaz isn't playing "nice guy" here; he wants to win. If Miami isn't winning, he'll keep tweaking things until he gets it right, or runs out of time.

Everyone just needs to calm the f**k down already and check their 15 years of frustration and program irrelevance at the door. Dude walked into a 7-6 team—99-73 since the 2005 Peach Bowl. One Coastal title and no ACC crowns in 15 tries. This thing has been a sub-par disaster for a decade and a half.

"Miami has no business losing to North Carolina or Virginia Tech!!!!"

F**king really? Have you not watched the past 15 seasons of ACC football—Miami ****ing away anywhere from two to four winnable conference games EVERY season? Diaz should fix that losing culture and turn **** around by mid-October? GTFOH.

"How did we go from the defense we had last year to this awful mess this year??? THAT'S ON THE COACHES!!!"

Yeah, or losing the leadership and experience of Jaquan Johnson, Sheldrick Redwine, Gerald Willis, Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson—Miami at a point where it still has to rebuild and isn't ready to "reload".


— Miami isn't a football factory—and that's not because of the admin as much as it is a fanbase that doesn't respond with their wallets. Only thing the admin cares about is the color green.

All these neckbeards talking about not showing up for games, or flying a banner—that's laughable.

Georgia just sunk $200M into their football program; AFTER hiring Smart, reaching the title game, getting to SEC Championship again last year, etc.

A big part of their fundraising; signing up over 1,100 new members to their "Magill Society" OVER THE PAST YEAR—each member on the hook to donate $25,000 MINIMUM, annually—again, a MINIMUM of $27,500,000 just from this latest addition to the group since 2018.

Miami brags because season ticket sales are up over the past few years—while fans threaten to boycott games. Yeah, that'll show 'em.

All of that SEC chatter from fans; "Y'all didn't even go to Miami!"—means nothing as far as one caring about or rooting for a program, but it sure-as-**** has an impact on the degree to which a fan base will open up it's wallet to FINANCIALLY support a program.

Let me know when the UM's athletic department can just fall into a new $30M over the span of a year—and that's the day you'll see a bigger financial investment into this program from the administration. It's a business, people.


The current thinking right now by some is so small-minded and fantasyland. Miami is going to have to figure out a way to exist in this current landscape by going against the grain, or working outside the box. Trying to go a traditional route with the lack of financial support (from the fan base) and loyalty; no chance when the likes of a Georgia are dumping $200M+ into their program, just to get them a few degrees closer to what Alabama is doing.

Final point; even WITH all that, it still doesn't guarantee success. Finances aren't an issue at Michigan. The lured in their dream hire in Harbaugh, pay him over $8M a year—with carte blanche to spend whatever he wants.

Five years in, 0-4 to Ohio State, lost his last three bowl games and finds a way to massively choke at some point ever season since arriving—despite the pedigree he rolled in with.


Meanwhile Clemson promoted a guy from a failed regime (under Tommy Bowden)—never holding a position higher than wide receivers coach, sticks with him for years (even when fans wanted to run him off after year four) and he eventually builds a contender, doing it his way.


It's year one in Miami under Manny. Give it time to play out.

 

[MiamiChris]

— Wasn't a "lazy" hire as much as a hamstrung hire due to timing and circumstance. Do you blow it all up with the hopes of finding someone available first week of January—knowing you could potentially strike out—or do you keep (bring back) the one facet of the program that has been completely successful the past three seasons. The Diaz hire was lower-risk—but it wasn't "lazy". This program did it's deep dives and searches in the past and it yielded ****.

Schiano turned it down in 2006 and nobody but Shannon wanted it. Golden was a finalist with Trestman and Edsall. Richt fell into Miami's lap because of the timing with Georgia, but prior-to there were no solid names being tossed around, despite getting rid of Golden late October and starting a search.

Again, there's a disconnect with this fan base regarding what they program really is (desirability-wise) versus what some perceive it to be.


— It's year one. The main area of focus was an anemic offense; and a $1.2M proposed solution came in the form of a guy at Alabama that Saban wanted to turn the keys over to this season. Will Enos get it done with lesser talent—we'll see—but let it play out.

Diaz thought the defense would be in good hands with his influence and some guys he trusts. Five games in, it's off—so he's addressing it and getting more hands on. Should that not work, wouldn't be surprised if he shakes things up.

Again, three losses in and everyone has already forgotten some of his off-season moves and **** they were praising him for the past few months—striating with coming in day one and firing the entire offensive staff.

Diaz isn't playing "nice guy" here; he wants to win. If Miami isn't winning, he'll keep tweaking things until he gets it right, or runs out of time.

Everyone just needs to calm the f**k down already and check their 15 years of frustration and program irrelevance at the door. Dude walked into a 7-6 team—99-73 since the 2005 Peach Bowl. One Coastal title and no ACC crowns in 15 tries. This thing has been a sub-par disaster for a decade and a half.

"Miami has no business losing to North Carolina or Virginia Tech!!!!"

F**king really? Have you not watched the past 15 seasons of ACC football—Miami ****ing away anywhere from two to four winnable conference games EVERY season? Diaz should fix that losing culture and turn **** around by mid-October? GTFOH.

"How did we go from the defense we had last year to this awful mess this year??? THAT'S ON THE COACHES!!!"

Yeah, or losing the leadership and experience of Jaquan Johnson, Sheldrick Redwine, Gerald Willis, Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson—Miami at a point where it still has to rebuild and isn't ready to "reload".


— Miami isn't a football factory—and that's not because of the admin as much as it is a fanbase that doesn't respond with their wallets. Only thing the admin cares about is the color green.

All these neckbeards talking about not showing up for games, or flying a banner—that's laughable.

Georgia just sunk $200M into their football program; AFTER hiring Smart, reaching the title game, getting to SEC Championship again last year, etc.

A big part of their fundraising; signing up over 1,100 new members to their "Magill Society" OVER THE PAST YEAR—each member on the hook to donate $25,000 MINIMUM, annually—again, a MINIMUM of $27,500,000 just from this latest addition to the group since 2018.

Miami brags because season ticket sales are up over the past few years—while fans threaten to boycott games. Yeah, that'll show 'em.

All of that SEC chatter from fans; "Y'all didn't even go to Miami!"—means nothing as far as one caring about or rooting for a program, but it sure-as-**** has an impact on the degree to which a fan base will open up it's wallet to FINANCIALLY support a program.

Let me know when the UM's athletic department can just fall into a new $30M over the span of a year—and that's the day you'll see a bigger financial investment into this program from the administration. It's a business, people.


The current thinking right now by some is so small-minded and fantasyland. Miami is going to have to figure out a way to exist in this current landscape by going against the grain, or working outside the box. Trying to go a traditional route with the lack of financial support (from the fan base) and loyalty; no chance when the likes of a Georgia are dumping $200M+ into their program, just to get them a few degrees closer to what Alabama is doing.

Final point; even WITH all that, it still doesn't guarantee success. Finances aren't an issue at Michigan. The lured in their dream hire in Harbaugh, pay him over $8M a year—with carte blanche to spend whatever he wants.

Five years in, 0-4 to Ohio State, lost his last three bowl games and finds a way to massively choke at some point ever season since arriving—despite the pedigree he rolled in with.


Meanwhile Clemson promoted a guy from a failed regime (under Tommy Bowden)—never holding a position higher than wide receivers coach, sticks with him for years (even when fans wanted to run him off after year four) and he eventually builds a contender, doing it his way.


It's year one in Miami under Manny. Give it time to play out.

We’ve had a twitter conversation the last day or two regarding same podcast feedback.

Please post more, I appreciate the insight and thought out response

 

[423Hurricane]

— Wasn't a "lazy" hire as much as a hamstrung hire due to timing and circumstance. Do you blow it all up with the hopes of finding someone available first week of January—knowing you could potentially strike out—or do you keep (bring back) the one facet of the program that has been completely successful the past three seasons. The Diaz hire was lower-risk—but it wasn't "lazy". This program did it's deep dives and searches in the past and it yielded ****.

Schiano turned it down in 2006 and nobody but Shannon wanted it. Golden was a finalist with Trestman and Edsall. Richt fell into Miami's lap because of the timing with Georgia, but prior-to there were no solid names being tossed around, despite getting rid of Golden late October and starting a search.

Again, there's a disconnect with this fan base regarding what they program really is (desirability-wise) versus what some perceive it to be.


— It's year one. The main area of focus was an anemic offense; and a $1.2M proposed solution came in the form of a guy at Alabama that Saban wanted to turn the keys over to this season. Will Enos get it done with lesser talent—we'll see—but let it play out.

Diaz thought the defense would be in good hands with his influence and some guys he trusts. Five games in, it's off—so he's addressing it and getting more hands on. Should that not work, wouldn't be surprised if he shakes things up.

Again, three losses in and everyone has already forgotten some of his off-season moves and **** they were praising him for the past few months—striating with coming in day one and firing the entire offensive staff.

Diaz isn't playing "nice guy" here; he wants to win. If Miami isn't winning, he'll keep tweaking things until he gets it right, or runs out of time.

Everyone just needs to calm the f**k down already and check their 15 years of frustration and program irrelevance at the door. Dude walked into a 7-6 team—99-73 since the 2005 Peach Bowl. One Coastal title and no ACC crowns in 15 tries. This thing has been a sub-par disaster for a decade and a half.

"Miami has no business losing to North Carolina or Virginia Tech!!!!"

F**king really? Have you not watched the past 15 seasons of ACC football—Miami ****ing away anywhere from two to four winnable conference games EVERY season? Diaz should fix that losing culture and turn **** around by mid-October? GTFOH.

"How did we go from the defense we had last year to this awful mess this year??? THAT'S ON THE COACHES!!!"

Yeah, or losing the leadership and experience of Jaquan Johnson, Sheldrick Redwine, Gerald Willis, Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson—Miami at a point where it still has to rebuild and isn't ready to "reload".


— Miami isn't a football factory—and that's not because of the admin as much as it is a fanbase that doesn't respond with their wallets. Only thing the admin cares about is the color green.

All these neckbeards talking about not showing up for games, or flying a banner—that's laughable.

Georgia just sunk $200M into their football program; AFTER hiring Smart, reaching the title game, getting to SEC Championship again last year, etc.

A big part of their fundraising; signing up over 1,100 new members to their "Magill Society" OVER THE PAST YEAR—each member on the hook to donate $25,000 MINIMUM, annually—again, a MINIMUM of $27,500,000 just from this latest addition to the group since 2018.

Miami brags because season ticket sales are up over the past few years—while fans threaten to boycott games. Yeah, that'll show 'em.

All of that SEC chatter from fans; "Y'all didn't even go to Miami!"—means nothing as far as one caring about or rooting for a program, but it sure-as-**** has an impact on the degree to which a fan base will open up it's wallet to FINANCIALLY support a program.

Let me know when the UM's athletic department can just fall into a new $30M over the span of a year—and that's the day you'll see a bigger financial investment into this program from the administration. It's a business, people.


The current thinking right now by some is so small-minded and fantasyland. Miami is going to have to figure out a way to exist in this current landscape by going against the grain, or working outside the box. Trying to go a traditional route with the lack of financial support (from the fan base) and loyalty; no chance when the likes of a Georgia are dumping $200M+ into their program, just to get them a few degrees closer to what Alabama is doing.

Final point; even WITH all that, it still doesn't guarantee success. Finances aren't an issue at Michigan. The lured in their dream hire in Harbaugh, pay him over $8M a year—with carte blanche to spend whatever he wants.

Five years in, 0-4 to Ohio State, lost his last three bowl games and finds a way to massively choke at some point ever season since arriving—despite the pedigree he rolled in with.


Meanwhile Clemson promoted a guy from a failed regime (under Tommy Bowden)—never holding a position higher than wide receivers coach, sticks with him for years (even when fans wanted to run him off after year four) and he eventually builds a contender, doing it his way.


It's year one in Miami under Manny. Give it time to play out.

One of the most sensible, well thought out posts I've read in a long time. Kudos to you sir and thanks for such great insight!

 

[mackjones]

Really enjoy listening to there Podcast and the one that dropped today was in my opinion on POINT. Kev on the Podcast had a come to Jesus moment and said the following. Obviously all these point have been brought up at some point and just further pushes the fact AD and Administration is to blame.

Points Made

-Lazy hire- No actual coaching search happened, and if it did was so quick and so small.

The position coaches ARE doing the best they can, but it’s not good enough at Miami. With the lack of money they give Manny to use on staff and like mentioned before with his small network he wasn’t going to hire a killer staff. He’s getting what he paid for obviously minus Enos. Staff is a bunch of Nobodies but that’s what Manny was hand tied with. To get any big time coordinator or position coach we would have had to over pay and admin would not allow this.

Florida is about to raid S Fla and it’s not because Mullin is a good recruiter, he actually is terrible but it’s because they win and kids see there players getting better.

-There is a price to pay to be great, and that usually a coach who doesn’t care about Administration and does everything his way. And admin is ever going to hire a coach like that because they want a coach they can control. We will never see a Mike Leach, Urban or Jimmy Johnson coaching this team.

-Administration will always be there because they are making money. Season ticket sales are at a high and program is going everything the right way off the field. Only way to prove a point is for stadium to be empty and that’s never going to happen.

Things aren’t going to get better unless new admin is in place

MR. Onion Head was in the same bind regarding hiring quality, competent assistants. Yet the vast majority of Cane fan's didn't WANT to see this situation said head coach had to deal with, because they ALREADY had an innate BIAS and extreme DISLIKE of that Onion Head fellow. Go figure.

Season tickets at a high. U could of FOOLED me. Because I still see approximately " 30,000- 38,000 " fans at the games this season.

 

[mackjones]

You have to believe that the admin told Richt they would give him 1 million for an OC (I thought it was 1.5, but let's say 1 mil for sake of argument), then told Manny a couple days after hiring him they are slashing his budget. I don't see that happening. Richt at 4.5 mil plus 1 mil for OC equals 5.5 mil. Manny at 3 mil + 1 mil for OC equals 4 mil. That's means he had an additional 1.5 million to stack on the funds given to hire a staff. He had the money to hire a light years better staff than some flunkies from La Tech. Two possible reasons he aimed so low.

1) it was the best he could find willing to work with him. Enos sounds like an exception to that (Diaz "stealing" him from Saban) but everyone knows that assistants run away from Saban as soon as they can. Enos was given an opportunity to call plays and not deal with Saban. As bad as it seems, Miamis offense has made a huge leap from last year (I think its ranked 40th now, was in the 90s last year). That's a big enough improvement that Enos will get a call to be a HC from a G5 school at the end of the year. His gamble will have paid off. It had nothing to do with wanting to work for Diaz.

2. Diaz is super insecure and doesn't want to have a staff of people who could challenge his authority. Imagine if he hired a DC who told him that his delayed safety blitzes were garbage. Think he's open to that kind of criticism? He hired a bunch of pushovers who would be grateful to him for giving them a shot at the P5 level.

I'm no psychiatrist, but I agree with U about Diaz being " insecure. " Heck, using old fashion common sense, one can observe his insecurity during his pressers. And his relative insecurities are glaring now that Miami is in a losing funk and what not.

 

[mackjones]

I have to imagine that Manny is aware as to how he has whiffed in a couple of spots on his coaching hires, Baker being the glaringly obvious pain right now. Hopefully he goes back to Blake (and Jen) and asks for more $$$ to spend for OLine and DLine. The funny thing is as bad as the line currently is, I’m not so sure that Barry could fix the issues.

Speaking of money, Enos is better than the prior Co-OC under Richt, but is certainly not worth $1MM of value. If he bolts after the end of the year as someone else insinuated could happen to a lower tier school, good. We need to be able to hire competent enough coaches to get these kids ready to play. Spend the $1MM on a OC that knows the game of football instead of their scheme. Someone that is flexible enough to understand the hand that they are dealt and how best to play their cards given the various levels of talent and shortfalls. We also need some mercenary recruiters to get the talent in to support the deficiency from the last class and the fallout that is bound to happen from this class.
The verdict on the defensive side of the ball is certainly still out. If the D performs better with Manny taking a personal interest in it, I would hope that Baker would take a pay cut to keep the DC title (if Manny is so inclined to offer him a nice compromise). Then the obvious hire would be a DLine coach worth a **** (and please conduct a legitimate search). If we have truly taken a step towards speed in the LB department, perhaps the remaining money can be spent on a ST coach for once.

Better allocation of resources should be able to make a huge difference in results. It’s not easy to figure out how to spend a specific allotment of money, especially with no prior experience. We shall see what Manny is made of once the off-season hits. Until then, pucker up and pray that we can figure out how to turn the table around.

***** Baker! Dude is the first coach who needs to HIT THE ROAD, jack! That incompetent has PERSONALLY COST Miami two games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VA TECH goes 67 yards in FIVE PLAYS for the game winning TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do I need to paint a better Orange and Green Pollack painting. dUh

 

[mackjones]

No coach of any acumen is going to sign up to work for a guy who, outside of social media millennials, is seen as a complete joke who has no business being a HC at any P5 program let alone one like Miami.

I second your notion!

 

[simplycanes]

— Wasn't a "lazy" hire as much as a hamstrung hire due to timing and circumstance. Do you blow it all up with the hopes of finding someone available first week of January—knowing you could potentially strike out—or do you keep (bring back) the one facet of the program that has been completely successful the past three seasons. The Diaz hire was lower-risk—but it wasn't "lazy". This program did it's deep dives and searches in the past and it yielded ****.

Schiano turned it down in 2006 and nobody but Shannon wanted it. Golden was a finalist with Trestman and Edsall. Richt fell into Miami's lap because of the timing with Georgia, but prior-to there were no solid names being tossed around, despite getting rid of Golden late October and starting a search.

Again, there's a disconnect with this fan base regarding what they program really is (desirability-wise) versus what some perceive it to be.


— It's year one. The main area of focus was an anemic offense; and a $1.2M proposed solution came in the form of a guy at Alabama that Saban wanted to turn the keys over to this season. Will Enos get it done with lesser talent—we'll see—but let it play out.

Diaz thought the defense would be in good hands with his influence and some guys he trusts. Five games in, it's off—so he's addressing it and getting more hands on. Should that not work, wouldn't be surprised if he shakes things up.

Again, three losses in and everyone has already forgotten some of his off-season moves and **** they were praising him for the past few months—striating with coming in day one and firing the entire offensive staff.

Diaz isn't playing "nice guy" here; he wants to win. If Miami isn't winning, he'll keep tweaking things until he gets it right, or runs out of time.

Everyone just needs to calm the f**k down already and check their 15 years of frustration and program irrelevance at the door. Dude walked into a 7-6 team—99-73 since the 2005 Peach Bowl. One Coastal title and no ACC crowns in 15 tries. This thing has been a sub-par disaster for a decade and a half.

"Miami has no business losing to North Carolina or Virginia Tech!!!!"

F**king really? Have you not watched the past 15 seasons of ACC football—Miami ****ing away anywhere from two to four winnable conference games EVERY season? Diaz should fix that losing culture and turn **** around by mid-October? GTFOH.

"How did we go from the defense we had last year to this awful mess this year??? THAT'S ON THE COACHES!!!"

Yeah, or losing the leadership and experience of Jaquan Johnson, Sheldrick Redwine, Gerald Willis, Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson—Miami at a point where it still has to rebuild and isn't ready to "reload".


— Miami isn't a football factory—and that's not because of the admin as much as it is a fanbase that doesn't respond with their wallets. Only thing the admin cares about is the color green.

All these neckbeards talking about not showing up for games, or flying a banner—that's laughable.

Georgia just sunk $200M into their football program; AFTER hiring Smart, reaching the title game, getting to SEC Championship again last year, etc.

A big part of their fundraising; signing up over 1,100 new members to their "Magill Society" OVER THE PAST YEAR—each member on the hook to donate $25,000 MINIMUM, annually—again, a MINIMUM of $27,500,000 just from this latest addition to the group since 2018.

Miami brags because season ticket sales are up over the past few years—while fans threaten to boycott games. Yeah, that'll show 'em.

All of that SEC chatter from fans; "Y'all didn't even go to Miami!"—means nothing as far as one caring about or rooting for a program, but it sure-as-**** has an impact on the degree to which a fan base will open up it's wallet to FINANCIALLY support a program.

Let me know when the UM's athletic department can just fall into a new $30M over the span of a year—and that's the day you'll see a bigger financial investment into this program from the administration. It's a business, people.


The current thinking right now by some is so small-minded and fantasyland. Miami is going to have to figure out a way to exist in this current landscape by going against the grain, or working outside the box. Trying to go a traditional route with the lack of financial support (from the fan base) and loyalty; no chance when the likes of a Georgia are dumping $200M+ into their program, just to get them a few degrees closer to what Alabama is doing.

Final point; even WITH all that, it still doesn't guarantee success. Finances aren't an issue at Michigan. The lured in their dream hire in Harbaugh, pay him over $8M a year—with carte blanche to spend whatever he wants.

Five years in, 0-4 to Ohio State, lost his last three bowl games and finds a way to massively choke at some point ever season since arriving—despite the pedigree he rolled in with.


Meanwhile Clemson promoted a guy from a failed regime (under Tommy Bowden)—never holding a position higher than wide receivers coach, sticks with him for years (even when fans wanted to run him off after year four) and he eventually builds a contender, doing it his way.


It's year one in Miami under Manny. Give it time to play out.

Long-winded and thorough, but this is nothing more than the Russell Athletic Boyz narrative. Miami has had this idiotic "short list" they're married to, but that's not to say there weren't other candidates they passed on, or didn't advance in the process.

The U interviewed Dan Mullen twice, and the second time he was downright begging. No clue what you're talking about that no one wanted the job.

 

[RedPill Stepdad]

 

[RedPill Stepdad]

Podcast is up. DeeJay talks about the culture in the locker room

 

[RedPill Stepdad]

- DJ said that there is no "party culture" at Miami. He said what happens at Miami happens every school in the country.

- said that players knowing Manny Diaz wouldn't discipline them for their actions was "never a thing", said some dudes just take risks.

- the fans believe everything the media reports

- Lashlee coming in "won't matter". Players have to buy in first

- quarterman had the defense on lock. Defensive players weren't out doing bs. (McCloud being redshirted makes more sense now).

That's all I remember. Great interview though

 

[skillydoo]

..... Absolutely.

 

[PredaCane]

And people say flying a banner calling out the admin is a bad look. Everyone sees it now but a select few the admin doesn't care about the on the field product. Glad other people are calling it out now.

This has been going on since forever with the Administration I couldn't agree more. It makes me wonder why this etched in stone fact some how reverses itself and administration becomes good as gold, totally committed and can do no wrong by the program when Davis is mentioned. Not saying yourself, but surely proves people got a real agenda about him.

 

[Hoyacane1620]

- DJ said that there is no "party culture" at Miami. He said what happens at Miami happens every school in the country.

- said that players knowing Manny Diaz wouldn't discipline them for their actions was "never a thing", said some dudes just take risks.

- the fans believe everything the media reports

- Lashlee coming in "won't matter". Players have to buy in first

- quarterman had the defense on lock. Defensive players weren't out doing bs. (McCloud being redshirted makes more sense now).

That's all I remember. Great interview though

Does hearing this make you really wonder where that "scoop" that Barry Jackson reported come from? The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but now that the juicy take is out in the media, kids are getting hammered. It's been a really bad look for the program and the school.

 

[RedPill Stepdad]

Does hearing this make you really wonder where that "scoop" that Barry Jackson reported come from? The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but now that the juicy take is out in the media, kids are getting hammered. It's been a really bad look for the program and the school.

Yeah, some shady stuff going on behind the scenes.

I remember Al Golden having his 7-5, 6-7 type seasons and knowing he was not the coach we need, didn't even look the part. I don't feel that way with Manny. I legit think he fits here and can win if given time.