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Someone explain the O to me like I’m 5

NC_Canes_11 said:
This doesn’t make any sense. If you miss a shot do you never shoot again? Does the coach tell the other 4 not to pass him the ball bc he missed? If your pitcher can’t find a secondary pitch in the 1st, is the catcher supposed to call 1 pitch the rest of the game?

If you don’t trust a WR, bench him. You don’t stop throwing altogether. The play worked. It just wasn’t completed.
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Did Miami “never pass the ball again?” Of course not. The fact remains, if something is unreliable you lean towards something more reliable. I am not just poitning to one game here. I am not just pointing to one OC or HC. Look at what we have seen at Miami for the last two decades. ****, Larry Coker was criticized for being conservative, but insane talent made his offense look great.
 
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flips said:
then, why did we go run/run/3rd&long pass behind LOS after we had scored 17pts on the prior 3 drives? we had been executing and we weren't aggressive
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That truly killed any momentum. I couldn’t believe we threw that ball behind our LOS. Deep in our territory hoping our guy breaks tackles. Instead of getting our guys open past the sticks🤦🏾‍♂️
 
Caneofcanes said:
That truly killed any momentum. I couldn’t believe we threw that ball behind our LOS. Deep in our territory hoping our guy breaks tackles. Instead of getting our guys open past the sticks🤦🏾‍♂️
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right. like i don't think there's much to take away from that game with the team we trotted out there but that sequence was awful. and dumb.

we had scored 17 straight points to take the lead. Schiano decided to punt on 4th and 4 from our side of 50. which was a bit weird in isolation, and moreso considering how well they had run the ball on our midget scrub laden DL. he's not a moron. he's only gonna do that if he thinks it's more likely than not he gonna improve on his position after punting. they had nearly blocked the first punt. just seems like no alarm bells went off on our sideline, and by going run/run/1% chance of getting the first down on the pass we did exactly what schiano set us up to do.
 
TheEye said:
Did Miami “never pass the ball again?” Of course not. The fact remains, if something is unreliable you lean towards something more reliable. I am not just poitning to one game here. I am not just pointing to one OC or HC. Look at what we have seen at Miami for the last two decades. ****, Larry Coker was criticized for being conservative, but insane talent made his offense look great.
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Didn’t throw it deep nearly enough considering Jacurri has a better deep ball than his short to intermediate one. Running game wasn’t gashing them either. So didn’t really go to anything “more reliable.” More like went into a shell except for that couple drive streak where we took the lead.

If you score multiple times in a row, you should
probably keep going with your doing. This staff did not and never does.

There is no game plan. There is no rhythm. The goal isn’t always to score points. Our offense is just break time for the defense. Mario seems happier to hold on to the ball for 7 minutes and not score, vs a one play 15 second TD drive.
 
First play of the game, play action, receiver runs a post, QB drops it in the bucket, and the receiver forgets his job is to catch the football and just plays tag with it as it falls to the turf.

I always wonder how these threads would go if the players actually made the easy plays that are there to make. Is everyone a caveman if you take a shot on the first play from scrimmage and it goes for an 85 yard touchdown?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
First play of the game, play action, receiver runs a post, QB drops it in the bucket, and the receiver forgets his job is to catch the football and just plays tag with it as it falls to the turf.

I always wonder how these threads would go if the players actually made the easy plays that are there to make. Is everyone a caveman if you take a shot on the first play from scrimmage and it goes for an 85 yard touchdown?
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Usually teams practice the first series of plays repeatedly in practice till perfect.
Especially the very first play , I was watching and thinking we’ll go deep like we do most games on first play .
I’ll bet our success in completions are zero , always over thrown like 5-10 yards oh I forgot or dropped.

We seem put zero air under these bombs or if we do it’s a punt type pass.

GOCANES
 
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Mnhurricane said:
Many posters eluded to it already but

1) no marriage between run and pass formations so at no point is one play truly setting up another with any consistency

2) predictability out of down and distance/formation often has the play dead on arrival

3) varied run sets would be lost for games at a time running simple zone concepts into heavy boxes repeatedly. Not even where our OL excelled schematically. Maddening

4) woof those route trees. Is a plus OC vs man coverage and awful against any zones. No motion to help QB pre snap identify. But anyone with a brain knew Dawson was a poor play caller his entire career and couple that with the caveman and here we are
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You forgot redzone playcalling sucked ***

TEs were severely underutilized

RBs rarely used in the passing game


Dawson isn’t good.
 
I’d argue that it’s not the offense or even the play calling but the mentality. With good quarterback play our offense was near unstoppable this year. When the quarterbacks struggled/got hurt the offense was putrid. The issue is this staff (the head coach) doesn’t want an offense that’s so dependent on quarterback play. He believes that a physical run game can negate a lack of ability at quarterback. And it can sometimes. But that should be the extreme, last ditch resort for an offense. Like when you’re starting a true freshman quarterback who struggled to complete passes. Their goal as an offensive staff should be recruiting and developing quarterbacks who CAN carry a team instead of trying to build an entire team to carry a mediocre quarterback. They want to look like Georgia on offense which is fine but Georgia’s quarterbacks have been incredible the last few years. For the second year in a row they threw for over 300 yards per game. They don’t wait until their opponent takes a lead to get aggressive on offense. They have a physical running game but they’re not just pounding it into the line over and over.
 
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