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Watching Ivey being coached to look at the QB’s eyes without paying any attention to the receiver at all on the 4th and 14 was insane to watch. The lack of preparation and execution is unreal. Somebody please make this stop! Please!
 
Zone coverage man to man doesn't matter you don't give up 4th and 14. You plant your feet 14 yards out and keep everything in front of you. But if this is true can't wait to a real football coach comes in here and brings a real DC.
 
ADELPHI said:
Watching Ivey being coached to look at the QB’s eyes without paying any attention to the receiver at all on the 4th and 14 was insane to watch. The lack of preparation and execution is unreal. Somebody please make this stop! Please!
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Had very little to do with 8. Yes, he's standing there flat-footed, frozen in time. But 23 starts on the hash, and when the 2 and 3 receivers run vertical, he pushes OUT 2-3 steps toward a field corner with NOBODY in his zone. Where tf was he going? You're already on the field hash. Why are you pushing out?

I hated the call simply because this isn't what Manny does. Say what you want about him, but he's a pressure/havoc proponent. If you're going to get beat, get beat running your stuff. This is like Mike Leach running the wishbone on 4th and 2. Do what you do. Rush the passer. If he beats you when you're in your best stuff, take your hat off. Don't drop 8 into zone when we have proven time and time again we can't run zone.

And we proved it again. In theory, the call is there. There's NO REASON you should be able to run dagger into a 7 deep zone. None. This was the #1 read, and it's because they were expecting pressure. So yes, Manny should be shot for the call simply because it's not what he does. But the kids should be able to execute it far better than this.
 
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It's evident that does not focus on the fundamentals of how he wants his guys to play specifically in his zone calls. Most of the time it's the spot drop that kills us, but sometimes it's just that not a single soul out there looks to know what any of the others are doing especially among the safeties. Not to mention nobody ever knows what 23 is doing that guy is almost actively trying to get away from the ball
 
It's been painfully obvious since Manny has been here that he can't teach zone defense. He's had some studs that have covered up that deficiency at times but most QBs are able to find the gaping holes in the secondary. Watch any other team play zone and then watch us...
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Had very little to do with 8. Yes, he's standing there flat-footed, frozen in time. But 23 starts on the hash, and when the 2 and 3 receivers run vertical, he pushes OUT 2-3 steps toward a field corner with NOBODY in his zone. Where tf was he going? You're already on the field hash. Why are you pushing out?

I hated the call simply because this isn't what Manny does. Say what you want about him, but he's a pressure/havoc proponent. If you're going to get beat, get beat running your stuff. This is like Mike Leach running the wishbone on 4th and 2. Do what you do. Rush the passer. If he beats you when you're in your best stuff, take your hat off. Don't drop 8 into zone when we have proven time and time again we can't run zone.

And we proved it again. In theory, the call is there. There's NO REASON you should be able to run dagger into a 7 deep zone. None. This was the #1 read, and it's because they were expecting pressure. So yes, Manny should be shot for the call simply because it's not what he does. But the kids should be able to execute it far better than this.
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I agree with all of this.

personally? I run tiger blitz with the corner to force movement by the QB , against his throwing hand. If you want, you can zone blitz it so that it disrupts the slide protection and you have good chance of actually getting a hit on the QB.

with all that. you can still play a cover 7 invert which quarters the back 4, and then the dagger concept is taken away. because even if it's a completion, you're making the stop prior to the stick.

If you absolutely can't play zone, and want to stick with man, because you're more comfortable? Fine. Run man under, you can still have your safeties behind it, so that you take away the vertical from the no. 2 receiver. and force the QB to throw into a window, and then make it so your WR has to get vertical after the catch to make the first, because the safety is helping squeeze down the top of the route.

that they only ran a 3 man pattern and went heavy protection, shows they didn't trust their QB to be able to complete with pressure, even though he only had basically a one read progression.

the whole thing is nauseating.

someone tell me I'm wrong. because I don't think I am.
 
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