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Ryan Day Comments on NIL

Rickd said:
I disagree with the premise that people are concerned about NIL because "the field hands are getting paid". THAT is not an issue. The ISSUE is that it is now legal for the schools with the deepest pocket boosters to simply buy the top 250 recruits each year. Oil money supported programs like Texas and TAM, and a couple of select programs like Bama, Tn., LSU, might simply be purchasing the top 100 players each season with a crazy level of remuneration, making it virtually impossible other programs to compete. THE SOLUTION ... is for some set of rules / regulations that are identical in EACH STATE. Right now each state has different regulations, some permitting schools and coaches to be directly involved in directing players to NIL offers, other states like Florida prohibit that involvement.
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These kids were getting paid BEFORE(Significantly less than they were truly worth, but paid), what's your point? Was it better when boosters could buy kids under the table, and thanks to the corruption of the NCAA, they were allowed to get away with it? Amazing that true capitalism becomes an issue when the wrong people start getting paid. There sure as **** isn't a salary cap in regards to what a coach can make, same with Athletic Directors and other department staff. No one is coming to a Miami game to watch Mario, no one is coming to watch Rad stand around. We are coming to see the student athletes, and honestly, they should be paid a fair market wage, just like I was when I decided to tutor for extra money in Law School. My scholarship wasn't at risk if I did so, I could have written a best selling novel, no one would have said a **** thing about me getting paid to attend school.

Adapt or Die. Period.
 
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Hurracanes said:
Exactly. They see a team like OSU need 14 million (I doubt that number is accurate) for them to help the players avoid transferring (free country) and they think everything is insane. You can’t put a limit to how one can earn even if you feel it’s ridiculous or a bad investment.
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To quote Pete Rose "It's not overpaid if someone is willing to pay you"
 
Rellyrell said:
I’m not sure of this narrative that’s being peppered throughout social media platforms that anyone looking to set parameters around NIL is looking to limit a kid’s earning potential. That’s not what anyone is saying.

If these young men & women r getting broke off from social media platforms to be an influencer? Get that bread.
If a big brand wants to feature them in some of their products? Get that $$.
If a student store wants to host a signing event? Gas.
If a company wants to feature u in a commercial? Go for it. If a gaming company wants to feature u or a player like u? Cash out.

If a booster says come play for my favorite school & we can make sure u make 7 figures? That’s total bull chit & that literally kills the whole spirit of what NIL is meant for.
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Why is it total BS? If a booster wants to pay above the table, and risk not getting any where near the return, that's on them. Amazing that people don't have this energy when boosters/organizations overpay for coaches, athletic directors and other personnel. The whole "Spirit of NIL" argument is false on its face. Never mind the fact that the NCAA ONLY came up with the term student-athlete, in order to get around worker comp laws... Why is it that capitalism is perfectly acceptable for everyone else EXCEPT labor? What makes LABOR incapable of benefiting fully from the fruits of their labor?
 
Canedude08 said:
These kids were getting paid BEFORE(Significantly less than they were truly worth, but paid), what's your point? Was it better when boosters could buy kids under the table, and thanks to the corruption of the NCAA, they were allowed to get away with it? Amazing that true capitalism becomes an issue when the wrong people start getting paid. There sure as **** isn't a salary cap in regards to what a coach can make, same with Athletic Directors and other department staff. No one is coming to a Miami game to watch Mario, no one is coming to watch Rad stand around. We are coming to see the student athletes, and honestly, they should be paid a fair market wage, just like I was when I decided to tutor for extra money in Law School. My scholarship wasn't at risk if I did so, I could have written a best selling novel, no one would have said a **** thing about me getting paid to attend school.

Adapt or Die. Period.
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So you bother to read comments or just *****? A primary ISSUE at this point is that each state has distinct regulations ... many states permit THE UNIVERSITY to be directly involved with NIL, directing recruits to NIL deals. Florida specifically prohibits that type of involvement. There needs to be a series of universal regulations that apply to all programs so there is a level playing field.
 
Canedude08 said:
Why is it total BS? If a booster wants to pay above the table, and risk not getting any where near the return, that's on them. Amazing that people don't have this energy when boosters/organizations overpay for coaches, athletic directors and other personnel. The whole "Spirit of NIL" argument is false on its face. Never mind the fact that the NCAA ONLY came up with the term student-athlete, in order to get around worker comp laws... Why is it that capitalism is perfectly acceptable for everyone else EXCEPT labor? What makes LABOR incapable of benefiting fully from the fruits of their labor?
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You are making no sense ... just babbling.
 
Canedude08 said:
Why is it total BS? If a booster wants to pay above the table, and risk not getting any where near the return, that's on them. Amazing that people don't have this energy when boosters/organizations overpay for coaches, athletic directors and other personnel. The whole "Spirit of NIL" argument is false on its face. Never mind the fact that the NCAA ONLY came up with the term student-athlete, in order to get around worker comp laws... Why is it that capitalism is perfectly acceptable for everyone else EXCEPT labor? What makes LABOR incapable of benefiting fully from the fruits of their labor?
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So I guess HS kids should fall under such rhetoric, right? I mean look at how these private schools, & camps capitalizing & monetizing off these kid’s “labor” while they make nothing. ****, why aren’t these students working w/ professors in research labs not being compensated for their labor? That MD doing their residency, how dare they make less $$ than the physicians they are working under!

Like, I don’t get these narratives bruh; what r u talking about? So let’s take a step back as to the genesis of the lawsuit: It was due to a former high profiled player’s NIL being used & him not being compensated. It had chit to do w/ boosters. The issue w/ CFB now is boosters f’ing up the balance. It was already bad enough of the brown paper bags under the table, but at least w/ that there were rules. Now? Those brown paper bags have become open duffle bags. Again, my issue is not an athlete “earning” money by a NIL situation, it’s boosters creating collectives to openly pay a kid str8 from HS OR lure a kid from an active roster. As a matter of fact, the key word to all of this is “EARNING.”

Btw, the coach comparison you used is a poor analogy.

1. These are paid professionals; so if you want collegiate athletes to be considered professional, then either a Union needs to be set up or the scholarships revoked as they will now be an employee vs. “student” athlete

2. Nick, Day, Dabo, any top tier coach you want to name; their compensation did not start off at the level they are now. They had to “earn” that level of pay based upon the results they put forth as a coach
 
Rickd said:
You are making no sense ... just babbling.
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Babbling how? If capitalism is good for coaches, ADs and everyone else, then it is good for student-athletes as well. Simple, to the point. No one places income restrictions on kids that are music majors, nor law students. Sorry, but in a field where guys can make professional league money, despite not coaching at the highest level, the talent should be getting paid.
 
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