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Facts! And Tate himself said enos had him work on his grip this off season on the day when they interviewed all the QB's. Obviously he's still getting used to the adjustment, but cant deny the spirals on his deep balls are beautiful.
 
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The Franchise said:
Dorsey rightly gets a ton of praise from UM fans, but he wasn’t a very accurate passer. He was around a 55% passer.
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You’re correct. My only question would be, and I’m too lazy to look it up right now, what was considered a good passing percentage back then for a pro style QB in college? Maybe it’s no different than today, but maybe it is. Obviously, nowadays 65% is almost an average it seems like. Again this is just off the top of my head it seems like passing percentages have increased over the last 20 years. But I’m just saying this straight off the top of my head, so I could be wrong.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You’re correct. My only question would be, and I’m too lazy to look it up right now, what was considered a good passing percentage back then for a pro style QB in college? Maybe it’s no different than today, but maybe it is. Obviously, nowadays 65% is almost an average it seems like. Again this is just off the top of my head it seems like passing percentages have increased over the last 20 years. But I’m just saying this straight off the top of my head, so I could be wrong.
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Yeah. One thing about offenses today is they are designed to give you quick, easy passes. So your completion % should be higher compared to those pro-style offenses that asked you to either throw downfield more and throw into the box more.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You’re correct. My only question would be, and I’m too lazy to look it up right now, what was considered a good passing percentage back then for a pro style QB in college? Maybe it’s no different than today, but maybe it is. Obviously, nowadays 65% is almost an average it seems like. Again this is just off the top of my head it seems like passing percentages have increased over the last 20 years. But I’m just saying this straight off the top of my head, so I could be wrong.
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It’s comparing apples and oranges , these spread offenses have a lot of pre determined throws , with 1-2 reads. Rpo’s or pre snap reads from alignments.

The stats and completion numbers are can’t be compared.

In the old days you actually had to go through all your progressions , sometimes come back to the first progression. Or just eventually just check it down.

Majority of these offenses are very dumbed down. And that’s one reason Tate struggled so much early on , he’s learning a real offense and completely re learning footwork.

Just look at Tebow when he played in the college all star games. He could’ve even do a correct drop or take the snap from under center.

It’s two different worlds.
 
mossmadness said:
Yeah. One thing about offenses today is they are designed to give you quick, easy passes. So your completion % should be higher compared to those pro-style offenses that asked you to either throw downfield more and throw into the box more.
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Cribby said:
It’s comparing apples and oranges , these spread offenses have a lot of pre determined throws , with 1-2 reads. Rpo’s or pre snap reads from alignments.

The stats and completion numbers are can’t be compared.

In the old days you actually had to go through all your progressions , sometimes come back to the first progression. Or just eventually just check it down.

Majority of these offenses are very dumbed down. And that’s one reason Tate struggled so much early on , he’s learning a real offense and completely re learning footwork.

Just look at Tebow when he played in the college all star games. He could’ve even do a correct drop or take the snap from under center.

It’s two different worlds.
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Without thinking it through too much, both these responses make some sense
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You’re correct. My only question would be, and I’m too lazy to look it up right now, what was considered a good passing percentage back then for a pro style QB in college? Maybe it’s no different than today, but maybe it is. Obviously, nowadays 65% is almost an average it seems like. Again this is just off the top of my head it seems like passing percentages have increased over the last 20 years. But I’m just saying this straight off the top of my head, so I could be wrong.
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The game has changed. But he still wasn’t all that accurate. Barely over 50% as a passer is all that good. And he had his clunker games too. He almost singlehandedly lost us that BC game when we had the best roster in football and he threw something like 5 picks in the game.

Great leader. Good QB. But his legend is blown out of proportion based on being on the best team ever assembled in the history of the game and our struggles since then.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You’re correct. My only question would be, and I’m too lazy to look it up right now, what was considered a good passing percentage back then for a pro style QB in college? Maybe it’s no different than today, but maybe it is. Obviously, nowadays 65% is almost an average it seems like. Again this is just off the top of my head it seems like passing percentages have increased over the last 20 years. But I’m just saying this straight off the top of my head, so I could be wrong.
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Dorsey while a very good fit and good player, benefited as much from team around him as his individual talent.

His senior year was his "worst" comp % (56.5) and his frosh debut season was his "best" (61.7) and the 99 team, while pretty good, had less weapons than 01/02 squads.

Overall, Dorsey finished at Miami with a 57.9% comp avg.

He played out his NFL career nevet better than 54.4% (worst 47.3).
 
The Franchise said:
The game has changed. But he still wasn’t all that accurate. Barely over 50% as a passer is all that good. And he had his clunker games too. He almost singlehandedly lost us that BC game when we had the best roster in football and he threw something like 5 picks in the game.

Great leader. Good QB. But his legend is blown out of proportion based on being on the best team ever assembled in the history of the game and our struggles since then.
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Exactly...when you can hand off too
Jackson
Edge
Portis
Mcgahee
Gore and Davenport in your career...and throw to..
Dre
Wayne
Tana
Winslow
Franks
Shockey
Tana and a plethora of others...that tells ya all you need to know.
 
Reading through this and other threads, it’s quite obvious that a good portion of the fan base have different QBs that they don’t want to start. Primarily Tate and Kosi. I just hope that whoever Coach Enos chooses is given a chance by the fans until they prove themselves capable or not. I can already hear large chunks of our fan base jumping ship after a couple incomplete passes and definitely the first interception. Especially the ones who have already dug their heels in against 1 QB or the other. They look forward to it, so they can tell us how right they were.

Whoever gets the nod for the opener may or may not ultimately be the long term starter but at least give them a real chance to prove they are!

Rational thinking isn’t 1 of our fan base’s strengths though so I won’t hold my breath. I just hope you all ain’t out here treating the starter like Malik because he wasn’t your guy and you want to be right on your hot takes above anything else.

Some of these declarations being made off of these short *** practice viewing periods are comical at best. Less than half of fall practice has been viewed by media/fans, I doubt anyone outside of the team and coaches really know what tf is going on.

But try supporting the team, regardless of who’s on the field. Crazy, I know.
 
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NC_Canes_11 said:
I don’t get this statement. Catching a football isn’t dependent on age. It’s not like you’re saying he struggled picking up the offense or the speeding of the game or blocking, which happens more when you’re young. It’s the one thing you’re supposed to do at wideout. There is no excuse for dropping as many passes as he did.

I’m not saying he can’t or won’t get better bc he will, but that had nothing to do with him being a freshman
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You're more likely to be nervous as a freshman and you're more likely to drop the ball if you're nervous.....aka it did probably have a lot to do with him being a freshman.
 
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