fivecent
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http://www.firstpost.com/india/shoc...ims-medical-reports-show-no-rape-2141485.html
I am posting this thread because, over the last year or so, I've had to reminds many dudes here to wait before they start bashing a kid who has been accused of sexual assault. An ACCUSATION is made, and immediately dudes starting post what they would do to the accused. Calling the accused beasts and degenerates and other vile names. All while knowing absolutely nothing about what really happened. If we are not careful, the above article is where we as a country are going. "Don't believe me, just watch"
Under Title IX, colleges and universities have been recently(within last few years) instructed to decide sexual assault cases using the preponderance of evidence standard. That is to say, just 51% likelihood needed for guilt. Our legal system uses the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. So a student, typically male, can be disciplined and expelled from school based on the flip of a coin. Still not convinced?
California and New York have gone one step further. Students who attend schools in Cali and NY are no longer innocent until proven guilt in sexual assault cases. Their schools now operate under affirmative consent. The person accused (typically male) must prove that he received consent for every step of interaction and that consent was not withdrawn. Now how would you prove that since it illegal to tape someone without their consent and they probably won't have *** with you if you ask to tape them? Well even the people who introduced the bill said that they didn't know. Thankfully there is Dave Chappelle
[video=youtube;Jo4568PIRnk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk[/video]
Well all this is just for schools right? In the US, for now, the answer is yes. Not so in Britain, where they are instructing police to follow affirmative consent. Though I'm sure how that applies to actual court ruling. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cts-using-social-media-help-cover-tracks.html
Yes, we need to protect the women in our lives, but not at the expense of due process. If we continue down this road, it will become more common to see a likely innocent man lynched like in the above article(his innocence is not official yet). Or if he is lucky, he only spends the best years of his life behind bars like Brian Banks.
I am posting this thread because, over the last year or so, I've had to reminds many dudes here to wait before they start bashing a kid who has been accused of sexual assault. An ACCUSATION is made, and immediately dudes starting post what they would do to the accused. Calling the accused beasts and degenerates and other vile names. All while knowing absolutely nothing about what really happened. If we are not careful, the above article is where we as a country are going. "Don't believe me, just watch"
Under Title IX, colleges and universities have been recently(within last few years) instructed to decide sexual assault cases using the preponderance of evidence standard. That is to say, just 51% likelihood needed for guilt. Our legal system uses the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. So a student, typically male, can be disciplined and expelled from school based on the flip of a coin. Still not convinced?
California and New York have gone one step further. Students who attend schools in Cali and NY are no longer innocent until proven guilt in sexual assault cases. Their schools now operate under affirmative consent. The person accused (typically male) must prove that he received consent for every step of interaction and that consent was not withdrawn. Now how would you prove that since it illegal to tape someone without their consent and they probably won't have *** with you if you ask to tape them? Well even the people who introduced the bill said that they didn't know. Thankfully there is Dave Chappelle
[video=youtube;Jo4568PIRnk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk[/video]
Well all this is just for schools right? In the US, for now, the answer is yes. Not so in Britain, where they are instructing police to follow affirmative consent. Though I'm sure how that applies to actual court ruling. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cts-using-social-media-help-cover-tracks.html
Yes, we need to protect the women in our lives, but not at the expense of due process. If we continue down this road, it will become more common to see a likely innocent man lynched like in the above article(his innocence is not official yet). Or if he is lucky, he only spends the best years of his life behind bars like Brian Banks.
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