Newly proposed NCAA rule would hurt

I don’t disagree that under 23 has merit in the grand scheme of being a college athlete. But without collective bargain aging, this will get cut into pieces by the multitude of courts which will address this issue year after year.

Why the NC2A (in honor of Tark the Shark), won’t push for a union of student athletes and a CBA is completely beyond me.

Well, you’re right in theory, but I think the NCAA not pushing for a CBA might be due to the fact that their decision makers somehow think they might get legislated relief to at least a semblance of their old overseeing structure, and therefore more relevance and power for them.

It’s not going to happen, but to me it’s the only thing that can explain why they don’t move forward with something that’s workable. Just a guess on my part but I logically can’t think of any other reason why they don’t try to negotiate something that would be acceptable to all parties.
 
I don’t disagree that under 23 has merit in the grand scheme of being a college athlete. But without collective bargain aging, this will get cut into pieces by the multitude of courts which will address this issue year after year.

Why the NC2A (in honor of Tark the Shark), won’t push for a union of student athletes and a CBA is completely beyond me.
Truly embarrassing how the sports programs of supposed institutions of higher learning are run by perhaps the least intelligent group of men and women in the entire sports industry.
 
I got everyone stirred up for nothing. Apologies.

DubCaliCane is correct. Our older guys, Toure, CSmith and RRodriguez can play in 2026.
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What does that NC2A reference mean or is getting at? I know who Tark is and the back & forths UNLV had with the NCAA.

i do think this is likely to end up back in the courts. However, I’m not sure the result is predetermined. With congress unlikely to pass an equivalent bill of this regulation, i could see this making it to the Supreme Court and them deciding in the NCAA’s favor. That is one amongst many possibilities though.

I don’t think the NCAA wants a union to deal with; and i question how effective, as well its legitimacy perceptually, a union would be that is initiated by the powers that be (that’s a bar).

Putting that big elephant to the corner of the room, i see an even larger problem at play. One union, or many unions? The answer will inevitably be the latter given the many sports and athletes with competing or contrasting interests under the collegiate athletic purview.

Then, afterwards, how do these institutions hold up? Will be they be conference specific? Will graduated players be allowed to maintain leadership positions? How would, if possible, non-conference transfers and incoming HS recruits have their interests properly addressed? How are leaders picked and meetings organized and dialogue deliberated on with so many needs and so much youth? These are just some of the beginning questions I’d (and they themselves) wonder about.

The power of unions and antitrust law are some of my favorite happenings of American history. Still, in this scenario, I find myself skeptical that a union can even be formed, yet alone endured. I was keeping my eye on the Dartmouth hoopers however they dropped their effort to unionize after Trump won. Maybe things pickup after ‘28 however we don’t really know how the universities’ administrative side would’ve responded to that.
As to the first question, Tarkanian hated the NC2A and even sued them in federal court in Nevada when they tried to penalize him. He felt he was being selectively prosecuted, and the judge gave him the ability to coach his team. And he always referred to the organization as the NC2A. I loved Tark the coach and Tark the rebel so in his honor I always use the same term when discussing an organization that I really can’t stand.

The union issue is very complicated for a variety of reasons. As you noted, there are so many sports so is it even possible to have a single union. I don’t think so because the interests of a high level football/basketball player are very different from those of a lacrosse players. Longevity within the union would also be a factor. Pro sports unions work in part because they are a singular sport, and at least some people are members for 10+ years, and they can pass on some institutional knowledge. In college the turnover rate would be much higher. So how do members pick their leadership when they are only members for 3-4 years?

So there are lots and lots of real hurdles in the way. But on the other side is endless lawsuits. And whereas the former path is difficult, the latter path is unsustainable.
 
I think the NC2A’s employees have one responsibility-keep existing so we can keep our jobs. Everything else is secondary.
This, and keep the clock on the attorneys we have on retainer. Somebody check for relatives of the NC2A key administrative members being partners at these law firms.

This makes me think of an agenda point on their spring meetings was “find issues where we can make up rules guaranteed to lose in court and cost us money”…
 
This, and keep the clock on the attorneys we have on retainer. Somebody check for relatives of the NC2A key administrative members being partners at these law firms.

This makes me think of an agenda point on their spring meetings was “find issues where we can make up rules guaranteed to lose in court and cost us money”…
This is literally how it feels. Like there must be some ulterior motive.
 
NCAA will just get butt****ed in court like they always do. The organization is a dead man walking.

Not this time; apparently many in Congress r w this. HS kids r being gravely affected by dudes who have mortgages & grandchildren playing sports; &, one thing about any regulatory system, it’s reactive not proactive.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of butt hurt fans who hold position of power/influence r pushing **** behind closed doors. U don’t think the NCAA started feeling punitive again out of nowhere, did u?
 
It says “/exhausted eligibility”

So you’re very clearly misreading things get again


You do realize what a slash means, right? You behave so ******* stupidly sometimes.

Nobody is arguing the "exhausted eligibility" angle. You can't turn back time, Cher.

But Thamel mentioned "graduates" and Winter did not. Which is what distinguished their Twatters.

Miami has graduates on the roster. Lots of schools do. And those guys will be fine.

The rule is still stupid. Not as stupid as people with poor reading comprehension skills, such as yourself. But still stupid.
 
NCAA will just get butt****ed in court like they always do. The organization is a dead man walking.

Not this time; apparently many in Congress r w this. HS kids r being gravely affected by dudes who have mortgages & grandchildren playing sports; &, one thing about any regulatory system, it’s reactive not proactive.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of butt hurt fans who hold position of power/influence r pushing **** behind closed doors. U don’t think the NCAA started feeling punitive again out of nowhere, did u?
I’m reacting more in terms to the initial post. If they made this decision with the intent to make current players (i.e. a Chase Smith) ineligible all of a sudden then there would be fall back like there has plenty of times before with student-athletes.

Personally I think the NCAA is at its last gasps and flailing, but if the initial post of this thread was in fact a misunderstanding of this specific new rule…..this wouldn’t be as much of an example.
 
Any good lawyer will wipe his/her *** with the paper that this new “rule” is written on.
 
I remember the days where it was very rare to see a 6th year guy. Now you are ******* getting guys in their 7th-8th year. Just end it. 5 years and get out of college. 6 years at the very most if you have some bad luck with injuries that knock you out for full seasons.
 
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