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Miami has always needed to play a style that closely resembles what is happening in Youth and High School football.

Here is the one issue...

Its not like Manny's style of defense has had any tangible results for the defense at this point on the recruiting trail. Miami has had RJ McIntosh and Gerald Willis beast in the ACC and we've still got to go to NYC to find iDL recruits. Despite the Turnover Chain and a pretty fun defensive culture, we're still missing on Patrick Surtain, Tyson Campbell, Akeem Dent, and Tyrique Stevenson (in theory).

We still need to see this style bear fruit on the recruiting trail.

Miami needs to hire boss recruiters. Its not all about Xs and Os. Get your OC. But you need to fill out the rest of the staff with boss recruiters. The entire roster, IMO, lacks real recruiters. Dugans and Hartley were probably the best on the offense, but this year was so bad offensively on the recruiting trail, you can't justify keeping either around and they weren't great recruiters anyway. Merely above average and have done nothing in this current class. We need real hustlers to recruit.

Where on this staff is your Tosh Lupoi? Your JaJuan Seider? Your Corey Raymond? Your Dameyune Craig?

Miami doesn't have these types and they need them BADLY.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Miami has always needed to play a style that closely resembles what is happening in Youth and High School football.

Here is the one issue...

Its not like Manny's style of defense has had any tangible results for the defense at this point on the recruiting trail. Miami has had RJ McIntosh and Gerald Willis beast in the ACC and we've still got to go to NYC to find iDL recruits. Despite the Turnover Chain and a pretty fun defensive culture, we're still missing on Patrick Surtain, Tyson Campbell, Akeem Dent, and Tyrique Stevenson (in theory).

We still need to see this style bear fruit on the recruiting trail.

Miami needs to boss recruiters. Its not all about Xs and Os. Get your OC. But you need to fill out the rest of the staff with boss recruiters. The entire roster, IMO, lacks real recruiters. Dugans and Hartley were probably the best on the offense, but this year was so bad offensively on the recruiting trail, you can't justify keeping either around and they weren't great recruiters anyway. Merely above average and have done nothing in this current class. We need real hustlers to recruit.

Where on this staff is your Tosh Lupoi? Your JaJuan Seider? Your Corey Raymond? Your Dameyune Craig?

Miami doesn't have these types and they need them BADLY.
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Facts, completely agree
 
BoxingRobes said:
Miami has always needed to play a style that closely resembles what is happening in Youth and High School football.

Here is the one issue...

Its not like Manny's style of defense has had any tangible results for the defense at this point on the recruiting trail. Miami has had RJ McIntosh and Gerald Willis beast in the ACC and we've still got to go to NYC to find iDL recruits. Despite the Turnover Chain and a pretty fun defensive culture, we're still missing on Patrick Surtain, Tyson Campbell, Akeem Dent, and Tyrique Stevenson (in theory).

We still need to see this style bear fruit on the recruiting trail.

Miami needs to boss recruiters. Its not all about Xs and Os. Get your OC. But you need to fill out the rest of the staff with boss recruiters. The entire roster, IMO, lacks real recruiters. Dugans and Hartley were probably the best on the offense, but this year was so bad offensively on the recruiting trail, you can't justify keeping either around and they weren't great recruiters anyway. Merely above average and have done nothing in this current class. We need real hustlers to recruit.

Where on this staff is your Tosh Lupoi? Your JaJuan Seider? Your Corey Raymond? Your Dameyune Craig?

Miami doesn't have these types and they need them BADLY.
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100% agree
 
Idk about youth fb, but i wrote like 3 months ago many HS offenses i saw this year were more complex than Miamis.
 
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Im sure he heard alot of laughing from city coaches about how crap our offense was...

Dude knows kids want to play fast, exciting brands of football that will showcase their speed and skill

Not line up like its 1970/80 with two TEs and a FB leading off
 
It's hard to pull in a lot of the big dog recruits when everyone is steering then away from the program, especially the bagmen.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Miami has always needed to play a style that closely resembles what is happening in Youth and High School football.

Here is the one issue...

Its not like Manny's style of defense has had any tangible results for the defense at this point on the recruiting trail. Miami has had RJ McIntosh and Gerald Willis beast in the ACC and we've still got to go to NYC to find iDL recruits. Despite the Turnover Chain and a pretty fun defensive culture, we're still missing on Patrick Surtain, Tyson Campbell, Akeem Dent, and Tyrique Stevenson (in theory).

We still need to see this style bear fruit on the recruiting trail.

Miami needs to boss recruiters. Its not all about Xs and Os. Get your OC. But you need to fill out the rest of the staff with boss recruiters. The entire roster, IMO, lacks real recruiters. Dugans and Hartley were probably the best on the offense, but this year was so bad offensively on the recruiting trail, you can't justify keeping either around and they weren't great recruiters anyway. Merely above average and have done nothing in this current class. We need real hustlers to recruit.

Where on this staff is your Tosh Lupoi? Your JaJuan Seider? Your Corey Raymond? Your Dameyune Craig?

Miami doesn't have these types and they need them BADLY.
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**** good point, but I think given who we are and our disadvantages against the other bag heavy schools we desperately need both. We need ace recruiters AND we need a top notch staff of Xs and Os guys who can exploit our talent to the fullest. We have been failing on both fronts - recruiting and coaching, which is a death sentence for our program.

We MUST have both in order to win at championship levels.
 
dwreck27 said:
Im sure he heard alot of laughing from city coaches about how crap our offense was...

Dude knows kids want to play fast, exciting brands of football that will showcase their speed and skill

Not line up like its 1970/80 with two TEs and a FB leading off
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Does Realus transfer out?
 
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TheMatador said:
Does Realus transfer out?
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Honestly wouldn't surprise me if we see him transfer out if we bring in fedora or (insert other random uptempo spread offensive coaches name here) and they have a sit down talk with him and let him know they really don't have a spot for him on the team in terms of position
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Miami has always needed to play a style that closely resembles what is happening in Youth and High School football.

Here is the one issue...

Its not like Manny's style of defense has had any tangible results for the defense at this point on the recruiting trail. Miami has had RJ McIntosh and Gerald Willis beast in the ACC and we've still got to go to NYC to find iDL recruits. Despite the Turnover Chain and a pretty fun defensive culture, we're still missing on Patrick Surtain, Tyson Campbell, Akeem Dent, and Tyrique Stevenson (in theory).

We still need to see this style bear fruit on the recruiting trail.

Miami needs to hire boss recruiters. Its not all about Xs and Os. Get your OC. But you need to fill out the rest of the staff with boss recruiters. The entire roster, IMO, lacks real recruiters. Dugans and Hartley were probably the best on the offense, but this year was so bad offensively on the recruiting trail, you can't justify keeping either around and they weren't great recruiters anyway. Merely above average and have done nothing in this current class. We need real hustlers to recruit.

Where on this staff is your Tosh Lupoi? Your JaJuan Seider? Your Corey Raymond? Your Dameyune Craig?

Miami doesn't have these types and they need them BADLY.
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True. But the reality is young HS kids these days don't know what a winning Miami team looks like. The only connotation they have between Miami and winning are tales their fathers and uncles tell them. Kids want to go where they can win. And recruiting is so different now that every big school can recruit every area. The days of all the bluechip sofla talent wanting to just blindly go to Miami are long gone. Until we show them how a winning Miami program looks, we aren't going to land many surtains and campbells of the world over schools like bama and uga.

We saw a flash of that last year after ND wknd. But unfortunately sh-t it all away the next 3 games and this season. Its a chicken and egg problem for us right now. Yes, we likely need the big dog recruits to compete at the highest levels, but we have fallen so far that we arent going to land many of those kids until they get to see what a winning Miami is all about with their own eyes.
 
Manny just copy HS and youth football in so fl. They will fit right in to system when the time comes.
 
330 Cane said:
programs in Miami played a more aggressive style of offense than UM did. The new OC will bring an offensive scheme that will make the program attractive to the playmakers we have been losing to other schools.
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Lmao, yeah my youth team definitely played more aggressive and scored more points. lol
 
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