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boxtonenyc said:
Its pretty simple and I have been shouting this for years:

You either pay kids, or you win big. Those are the only two things that lead to sustained recruiting success. PERIOD.

So if you hire a staph of “recruiters” and a CEO HC, then you HAVE TO DROP BAGS and hope your bags are bigger than the other guys.

Otherwise, you need actual football men coacing and scheming and winning games with lesser talent first, which creates a momentum flow.

Miami has done neither since the turn of the century and here we are.
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I thought about this. We need to start dropping bags slowly. Don't be like Ole miss when everyone decided to go there miraculously. I don't even think it has to be as big as SEC bags since we have a home advantage.
 
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canecrazy23 said:
Yet we have the number 1 D in the country and one of the most feared DLines in America.

I see what you're saying about the recruiting though. It just doesn't make sense why these kids wouldn't want to come here and play in this D.
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What about Oline? What about D-Line depth? Thank God G. Willis fell in our lap because this staff isn’t landing stud DT recruits like him on annual basis. So idk if the future looks promising
 
Insanecane said:
Can't lose to **** teams like Virginia and continuously get embarrassed against the top teams on your schedule (LSU/Clemson). Makes you irrelevant.
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We crushed Notre Dame in front of a sold out crowd and hosted Game Day on campus. All in the middle of our "recruiting hotbed." This goes beyond winning.
 
TheEye said:
We crushed Notre Dame in front of a sold out crowd and hosted Game Day on campus. All in the middle of our "recruiting hotbed." This goes beyond winning.
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I'd say that one win along with VT and a 10 win season netted us a top 10 class. Mind you we were a top 5 class before losses to Pitt, Clemson, and Wisconsin.

But we started off this year getting embarrassed on national TV (LSU), then looking sloppy against a FSU team we should have beat handidly, and followed that with losing to a mediocre Virginia team.

Recruits want to play for winners or bag droppers- preferably a school that does both (Bama). So either we win, or we drop bags. Or we lose top HS players to schools that do. It's not rocket science really.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
We dominated ND last year in front of a nationally televised audience and were 10-0 and still lost guys down the stretch. We have a top 3 defense this year and a virtual lock mysteriously informs our staff days before his announcement that he's going to Alabama. We are 5-2 right now and it probably wouldn't matter if we were 7-0. The f*ckery that is recruiting in the tri-county area is systemic and programs with the means to do whatever it takes to secure a recruit's commitment have been doing it for well over a decade.
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Amen bruh. x1.6 billion w/ everything you said
 
Bags is a ridiculous excuse. Alabama is the pretty girl with natttys, facilities, fans, fame, nfl pipeline, swag and everything. And we’re the old used to be hot divorcee down the street who complains that Alabama’s shoes are ugly. It’s pathetic. Maybe they have a great bag game, but it really shouldn’t be hard to recruit to there given what they offer at this point. And if they have bags, so does everyone not named UM or Vanderbilt. Cry me a river.

Our issues are self inflicted. Three incompetent corches followed be a bleh coach who fancies himself an OC and hires a staff half full of his son and several inexperienced guys. when Sony Michel aent to UGA, it was bags bck then, too, under richt. It’s all dumb. He just ain’t doing enough.
 
Go Canes!! said:
So when they first got here both Shannon and Golden got kids with no bags, then didn’t win or put guys in the show, then had no bags to pay kids which got them fired, which led to Richt who got kids for free, but started losing.

So are we at the no kids in the nfl or no bags part of the CMR story?
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Well there were bags dropped when Shannon was here. Whether he knew about Nevin or not. Peanuts compared to what the SEC schools are throwing around tho.
 
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Babscanes said:
Guys after yesterdays bad news we have to realize the state of our program. As some have alluded to already what we perceive about Miami isn't what 17 and 18 year old kids think. Miami has been irrelevant for over 15 years or all of these recruits lives. Yes there have been some minor peaks here or there but overall its been a middle of the road program.

The main reason I believe this has happened, outside of the coaching hires is our recruiting on both the OL and DL has been suspect at best. Games are won in the trenches. If you cant dominate there it doesn't matter who is the QB, RB, WR etc. We are missing way to many line recruits and it shows quickly when we play anyone with a heartbeat.

Until Miami starts winning these battles in recruiting they wont win on Saturdays. Our only hope is that the guys we sign can be coached up and overachieve.

Losing out on another top DL recruit to Bama stings but can you really sit there and be surprised?

Honestly look at the program and you know in your heart we are probably somewhere between 20 and 30 on the list of top tier teams. Closer to 30 if you consider the last 15 years.
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As a parent and an alum and fan for 30 plus years, i would have problems sending my sons to play for richt right now!
 
Losing the trenches have you seen our d line this year leading in sacks and tackles for loss if that's losing in the trenches so are the other 120 fbs teams
 
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