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The Canes have to take care of their business but there are some other games that could play a factor in who gets to Charlotte in December.

The narrative has been that Clemson is the best team in the conference. A few games could challenge that starting in September:

Clemson @ Ga Tech Sept. 13 at 12 noon

There's also been a lot of talk on various shows that Ga Tech is a team to watch this season. Canes don't play Ga Tech this season. A win here by Ga Tech could be huge at the end of the season...

Clemson also travels to Louisville on November 14th for an 8 pm kickoff in a short week. This could be another tough game for Dabo..

Clemson faces Syracuse at home on Sept. 20th and SMU at home on October 18th.

Looking at Ga Tech, they get virtually all their tough games at home, including Clemson, Va Tech, Syracuse and even Pitt. Duke is the only conference game they play on the road that could be a challenge...
They don't play SMU, Louisville or Miami

Louisville gets Clemson at home but has to play Miami, SMU, Va Tech on the road.

Va Tech travels to Ga Tech but gets Miami & Louisville at home in November. Can Va Tech be a spoiler for someone?

SMU travels to Clemson, but has Miami, Syracuse and Louisville at home. They don't play Ga Tech


It could be a really interesting season.....
 
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I think it sets up nicely for Miami. The Clemson, SMU, and Louisville triangle is great for Miami. Either they're all gonna have a loss or one only one comes out unscathed. Then the potential dark horses GT and VT have to play each other. And Clemson has to play GT.

Clemson running the table (at least against our main opponents) gives losses to every major threat Miami has without harming us. This is probably a best case scenario, not only by giving the competition an L but allowing us to play a very marquee game in the ACCCG that could help us get a 1st round bye. If you have Miami losing an ACC game then they could lose to either SMU or Louisville and then you have a 50/50 shot of that loss being nullified when SMU/Louisville play each other, in addition to the possibility of that team losing another ACC game. That's what I would root for.

The other interesting scheduling nugget is Clemson plays Louisville in its 10th game. Louisville plays SMU in its 11th game. Those are wildly important games that will take place at the very end of the season.
 
GT has an absolute cake walk of a schedule. So pathetic that even that fanbase should riot if they lose to anyone other than Clemson.

1 loss in conference and we're probably looking at the tie-breaker with them. We probably hold the advantage because the teams on our schedule are better and the opponent records become the tie-break rule once you get that far down into it. At 7-1, if they lose to Clemson, our loss can't come against someone they beat or we'll be left out due to record vs common opponents.

Common opponents NCST, Syracuse, VT, and Pitt - We cannot lose to any of these teams
Comparing uncommon opponents - max 1 loss vs any of these 4:
Clemson > SMU
Duke < Louisville
BC < FSU
WF = Stanford

Their opponent's in-conference record may push ours close. Depends how bad Stanford/WF actually are and if SMU wins 6-7 conference games or if they fall down to 5-3 or something. Clemson will carry their opponent in-conference record. Our SoS badly needs Louisville to be good and needs FSU to win 7 games and at least 4 conference wins.
 
JayCane20 said:
GT has an absolute cake walk of a schedule. So pathetic that even that fanbase should riot if they lose to anyone other than Clemson.

1 loss in conference and we're probably looking at the tie-breaker with them. We probably hold the advantage because the teams on our schedule are better and the opponent records become the tie-break rule once you get that far down into it. At 7-1, if they lose to Clemson, our loss can't come against someone they beat or we'll be left out due to record vs common opponents.

Common opponents NCST, Syracuse, VT, and Pitt - We cannot lose to any of these teams
Comparing uncommon opponents - max 1 loss vs any of these 4:
Clemson > SMU
Duke < Louisville
BC < FSU
WF = Stanford

Their opponent's in-conference record may push ours close. Depends how bad Stanford/WF actually are and if SMU wins 6-7 conference games or if they fall down to 5-3 or something. Clemson will carry their opponent in-conference record. Our SoS badly needs Louisville to be good and needs FSU to win 7 games and at least 4 conference wins.
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Someone in another thread asked how a 1 conference loss Miami doesn't make the ACCCG and this was what I thought was most likely... GT on tiebreaker.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
The Canes have to take care of their business but there are some other games that could play a factor in who gets to Charlotte in December.

The narrative has been that Clemson is the best team in the conference. A few games could challenge that starting in September:

Clemson @ Ga Tech Sept. 13 at 12 noon

There's also been a lot of talk on various shows that Ga Tech is a team to watch this season. Canes don't play Ga Tech this season. A win here by Ga Tech could be huge at the end of the season...

Clemson also travels to Louisville on November 14th for an 8 pm kickoff in a short week. This could be another tough game for Dabo..

Clemson faces Syracuse at home on Sept. 20th and SMU at home on October 18th.

Looking at Ga Tech, they get virtually all their tough games at home, including Clemson, Va Tech, Syracuse and even Pitt. Duke is the only conference game they play on the road that could be a challenge...
They don't play SMU, Louisville or Miami

Louisville gets Clemson at home but has to play Miami, SMU, Va Tech on the road.

Va Tech travels to Ga Tech but gets Miami & Louisville at home in November. Can Va Tech be a spoiler for someone?

SMU travels to Clemson, but has Miami, Syracuse and Louisville at home. They don't play Ga Tech


It could be a really interesting season.....
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UNC is a factor in all of this - they have a very favorable schedule. Clemson might be their only loss
 
JayCane20 said:
GT has an absolute cake walk of a schedule. So pathetic that even that fanbase should riot if they lose to anyone other than Clemson.

1 loss in conference and we're probably looking at the tie-breaker with them. We probably hold the advantage because the teams on our schedule are better and the opponent records become the tie-break rule once you get that far down into it. At 7-1, if they lose to Clemson, our loss can't come against someone they beat or we'll be left out due to record vs common opponents.

Common opponents NCST, Syracuse, VT, and Pitt - We cannot lose to any of these teams
Comparing uncommon opponents - max 1 loss vs any of these 4:
Clemson > SMU
Duke < Louisville
BC < FSU
WF = Stanford

Their opponent's in-conference record may push ours close. Depends how bad Stanford/WF actually are and if SMU wins 6-7 conference games or if they fall down to 5-3 or something. Clemson will carry their opponent in-conference record. Our SoS badly needs Louisville to be good and needs FSU to win 7 games and at least 4 conference wins.
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UNC has an even easier schedule…
 
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JayCane20 said:
UNC sucks though
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I mean true. But their schedule is:

Home Clemson, Duke, UVA, Stanford
Away NCSt, Syracuse, Cal, Wake Forest

That's incredibly easy. I don't think they're losing to Stanford, Wake, Cal, or UVA who are probably the worst 4 teams in the ACC (so half their schedule). They will lose to Clemson. So that'd be 4-1 there. That means Duke, NCSt, Syracuse are the 3 games that determine their season purely from ACC standpoint. Could they win 2 of those? Idk, I'd probably pick them over Syracuse right now... GTech, UNC, and Duke could all finish like 9-3 or 10-2 with their games against eachother determining a tie breaker...

I'd say toughest ACC Schedule would go Louisville > SMU > FSU > Clemson > Miami > Duke...

We have to take care of business in the ACC this year, one slip up could cost us a tie breaker, as you said. Too many teams have too easy of a schedule with really only 1 clear loss on their schedules. Hopefully a team like VTech and NCSt can steal a game from those 3 of GTech/UNC/Duke.... I think we run the table in ACC this year though.
 
Calinative said:
I mean true. But their schedule is:

Home Clemson, Duke, UVA, Stanford
Away NCSt, Syracuse, Cal, Wake Forest

That's incredibly easy. I don't think they're losing to Stanford, Wake, Cal, or UVA who are probably the worst 4 teams in the ACC (so half their schedule). They will lose to Clemson. So that'd be 4-1 there. That means Duke, NCSt, Syracuse are the 3 games that determine their season purely from ACC standpoint. Could they win 2 of those? Idk, I'd probably pick them over Syracuse right now... GTech, UNC, and Duke could all finish like 9-3 or 10-2 with their games against eachother determining a tie breaker...

I'd say toughest ACC Schedule would go Louisville > SMU > FSU > Clemson > Miami > Duke...

We have to take care of business in the ACC this year, one slip up could cost us a tie breaker, as you said. Too many teams have too easy of a schedule with really only 1 clear loss on their schedules. Hopefully a team like VTech and NCSt can steal a game from those 3 of GTech/UNC/Duke.... I think we run the table in ACC this year though.
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That is extremely weak. I think Virginia handles UNC easily and bad teams drop other games as well
 
JayCane20 said:
That is extremely weak. I think Virginia handles UNC easily and bad teams drop other games as well
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UNC is a team that could have a high variance in my mind. New highly publicized HC and perceived drama going on there.

They can easily be a 3-9 team but their schedule is seemingly so easy they could just as likely be a 7-5 quality team (their o/u is 7.5) that wins 9.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
The Canes have to take care of their business but there are some other games that could play a factor in who gets to Charlotte in December.

The narrative has been that Clemson is the best team in the conference. A few games could challenge that starting in September:

Clemson @ Ga Tech Sept. 13 at 12 noon

There's also been a lot of talk on various shows that Ga Tech is a team to watch this season. Canes don't play Ga Tech this season. A win here by Ga Tech could be huge at the end of the season...

Clemson also travels to Louisville on November 14th for an 8 pm kickoff in a short week. This could be another tough game for Dabo..

Clemson faces Syracuse at home on Sept. 20th and SMU at home on October 18th.

Looking at Ga Tech, they get virtually all their tough games at home, including Clemson, Va Tech, Syracuse and even Pitt. Duke is the only conference game they play on the road that could be a challenge...
They don't play SMU, Louisville or Miami

Louisville gets Clemson at home but has to play Miami, SMU, Va Tech on the road.

Va Tech travels to Ga Tech but gets Miami & Louisville at home in November. Can Va Tech be a spoiler for someone?

SMU travels to Clemson, but has Miami, Syracuse and Louisville at home. They don't play Ga Tech


It could be a really interesting season.....
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Why did you skip UNC? see that schedule?
 
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