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CorniceCane said:
Looks awful for this program, no matter what the kid wanted to do, to not shut it down entirely. To think that he played with the shoulder injury is criminal. If the PCL part is true, we do not deserve nice things. Cager’s comment wouldn’t even come close to pointing out the issues with this entire program. How do they treat the players in the sports that don’t make the school money?
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and ran it 19 times next game!! unbelievable!
 
Canesfan1899 said:
I know and IMO that should put Diaz’s job in question but if he also played him with a torn pcl after Bama even more criminal.
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Remember when people acted like I was a conspiracy theorist for saying “he had multiple injuries and the staff still put him out there“? I also asked “ do you they‘d be doing that if Manny wasn’t on the hot seat“? But I was pushing “ drama and whacky theories“. If I was doing that I could’ve put more goodies than that. But my point was made. It was totally mishandled and tbh a bad look.
 
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CorniceCane said:
Looks awful for this program, no matter what the kid wanted to do, to not shut it down entirely. To think that he played with the shoulder injury is criminal. If the PCL part is true, we do not deserve nice things. Cager’s comment wouldn’t even come close to pointing out the issues with this entire program. How do they treat the players in the sports that don’t make the school money?
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I read it on Twitter and it really ****ed me off. King would try to play through anything and the coaches should have shut him down for his own safety.
 
Cribby said:
Remember when I got attacked for saying “he had multiple injuries and the staff still put him out there“? I also asked “ do you they‘d be doing that if Manny wasn’t on the hot seat“? But I was pushing “ drama and conspiracy theories“. If I was doing that I could’ve put more goodies than that. But my point was made. It was totally mishandled and tbh a bad look.
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I for one believed you, thought he hurt his knee in the Bama game but thought it was a tweak not a torn ligament. I’d love to hear more of crap you’ve held back. I’ve been off these guys for quite some time and the more I hear the more I dislike them.
 
Cribby said:
Remember when I got attacked for saying “he had multiple injuries and the staff still put him out there“? I also asked “ do you they‘d be doing that if Manny wasn’t on the hot seat“? But I was pushing “ drama and conspiracy theories“. If I was doing that I could’ve put more goodies than that. But my point was made. It was totally mishandled and tbh a bad look.
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What's really telling is seeing how good TVD is playing and knowing King was hurt. How the **** can a coach be so cowardly he doesn't play the talented, healthy guy over the guy that can't possibly play near 100%? Chicken crap coaching. He was trying to protect his job, but this Einstein couldn't even figure out his best chance of saving his job was by playing the healthy guy. That's F level coaching right there.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
I read it on Twitter and it really ****ed me off. King would try to play through anything and the coaches should have shut him down for his own safety.
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That’s why I made the thread after Msu , he was getting destroyed by posters . I‘ve mentioned negative things about him like struggling with the rpo , zone read and leaving the pocket early , but he’d never missed throws like he was from ASU on. accuracy was never that bad. He was short hoping throws, floating passes and staying away from the deep ball.
 
ThomasM said:
What's really telling is seeing how good TVD is playing and knowing King was hurt. How the **** can a coach be so cowardly he doesn't play the talented, healthy guy over the guy that can't possibly play near 100%? Chicken crap coaching. He was trying to protect his job, but this Einstein couldn't even figure out his best chance of saving his job was by playing the healthy guy. That's F level coaching right there.
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Amazing how much better offense is when forced to replace QB,rb and center
 
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Canesfan1899 said:
I for one believed you, thought he hurt his knee in the Bama game but thought it was a tweak not a torn ligament. I’d love to hear more of crap you’ve held back. I’ve been off these guys for quite some time and the more I hear the more I dislike them.
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It was clear he hurt his knee in The Bama game. Even the announcers kept saying, he didn’t look the same. I’m sure he was given something to dull the pain, but as I continued to ask, was King truly healthy to even begin the season? The staph assured all of us, he was.

Again, I don’t trust this staph, from the medical squad to the coaches. There’s been several issues in which former players spoke out on.
 
Rellyrell said:
It was clear he hurt his knee in The Bama game. Even the announcers kept saying, he didn’t look the same. I’m sure he was given something to dull the pain, but as I continued to ask, was King truly healthy to even begin the season? The staph assured all of us, he was.

Again, I don’t trust this staph, from the medical squad to the coaches. There’s been several issues in which former players spoke out on.
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All truth.
 
JgDaCane said:
Yeah I said I was mistaken like a week ago after he went after the fumble on the sidelines. Unlike the rest of this cesspool I sack up & admit admit when I’m wrong.
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We all get our time to shine on bad evaluations, you being so definitive is why you might get a tad more stank lol. Theres a couple guys on here with far more brutal opinions on Tvd than you. When people find their posts it will be epic. You did right , lay on thy sword.
 
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I said TVD is more polished, but Garcia has a higher ceiling.

I might be wrong.
 
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JD08 said:
I said TVD is more polished, but Garcia has a higher ceiling.

I might be wrong.
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When I saw Garcia and TVD in spring practices. I thought TVD looked great but Garcia looked amazing.

Noone knows the future. Both could end up looking like crap.

On the other hand, just because TVD looks like Kosar, doesn't mean Garcia can't be a Heisman winner like Testaverde. And while we're dreaming, Brown could be Walsh :-)
 
lurk said:
When I saw Garcia and TVD in spring practices. I thought TVD looked great but Garcia looked amazing.

Noone knows the future. Both could end up looking like crap.

On the other hand, just because TVD looks like Kosar, doesn't mean Garcia can't be a Heisman winner like Testaverde. And while we're dreaming, Brown could be Walsh :)
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Kosar beat out Testaverde in 83....
 
Mel Bernstein said:
Is clearly not even close to 100% recovered from his injury. He’s not the same guy he was last year. He’s doing everything he can to help this abomination of a coaching staff, and I fear he’s going to do do more damage to himself than any benefit he’ll get at this point. Anyone blaming King for this disaster is misguided.

If Manny had any stones, and was truly looking out for his players, he’d shut him down for a few weeks, at least. But, we probably have another Al Golden / Stephen Morris situation, where job preservation is going to trump what is best for his players. I hope this kid doesn’t blow out his knee again.
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Your assessment proved to be spot on ...
 
Swampcity said:
Your assessment proved to be spot on ...
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Unfortunately, it seems that is the case. I can only hope that @Cribby is right that wholesale changes are coming. We need a complete overhaul of the entire athletic program with people that actually know what they are doing
 
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