Key veterans wanted Heaps

[CaneAlmighty]

Golden really dropped the ball with his decision the start Kaaya.
Really got to question his judgement with that call. Reminds me of when Shannon started Freeman over Wright.
What's funny is that it went against his going by the playbook style of sticking with the tried and tested formula of going with the experienced player.
If it was against FAMU in a home opener then whatever.
But it was a tough road game against a conference opponent who had just finished pushing our **** in in the bowl game.

Really made no sense to do it as it unwittingly forced them to play conservative.

Had they sided with starting the SR with experience the playbook would have been more open which may have meant better results.

Besides Heaps looked to be the better leader who would rally the troops.. I didn't see Kaaya do none of that. I get that he's cool calm and collected but goddam give me a qb with some emotion.

 

[canesrdynamite]

You think Heaps knows the playbook any better? I question Al's judgment on all kinds of things, but playing Kaaya could go either way. From what I've heard, he had a real shot to beat out Williams before the injury anyway.

It's not like he's got Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly, and Vinny T in front of him.

 

[TheMatador]

Crowder is actually a pretty bright guy.

This for real? The guy is dumb, was at a frat party where he threw a keg of the second balcony at someone.

Funny that the guy calling someone dumb can take one action someone does and now apply he is dumb. Just because you do something stupid does not mean you are stupid. If you are that simple minded you may want to focus on your on intelligence. I never said Channing isn't crazy, I said he is a pretty bright guy. I watch mostly every Dolphin game with the guy and have had conversations with him on mostly every topic out there. He is always telling stories of all the stupid things he did in college(10 years ago) and how he was an idiot then and how much he regrets it.

Yep. A real MENSA member on top of being a Canes "insider":

Asked what the Anne Frank reference meant, Crowder said "Who was that? Is that the blind girl? Helen Keller ... I don't know who the f--- Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now. F--- it. I'm not as swift as I usually am.

Give him partial credit for knowing Helen Keller.

 

[stat1124]

I literally laughed out loud at the partial credit

Crowder is actually a pretty bright guy.

This for real? The guy is dumb, was at a frat party where he threw a keg of the second balcony at someone.

Funny that the guy calling someone dumb can take one action someone does and now apply he is dumb. Just because you do something stupid does not mean you are stupid. If you are that simple minded you may want to focus on your on intelligence. I never said Channing isn't crazy, I said he is a pretty bright guy. I watch mostly every Dolphin game with the guy and have had conversations with him on mostly every topic out there. He is always telling stories of all the stupid things he did in college(10 years ago) and how he was an idiot then and how much he regrets it.

Yep. A real MENSA member on top of being a Canes "insider":

Asked what the Anne Frank reference meant, Crowder said "Who was that? Is that the blind girl? Helen Keller ... I don't know who the f--- Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now. F--- it. I'm not as swift as I usually am.

Give him partial credit for knowing Helen Keller.

 

[cowboycane]

Crowder is actually a pretty bright guy.

This for real? The guy is dumb, was at a frat party where he threw a keg of the second balcony at someone.

Funny that the guy calling someone dumb can take one action someone does and now apply he is dumb. Just because you do something stupid does not mean you are stupid. If you are that simple minded you may want to focus on your on intelligence. I never said Channing isn't crazy, I said he is a pretty bright guy. I watch mostly every Dolphin game with the guy and have had conversations with him on mostly every topic out there. He is always telling stories of all the stupid things he did in college(10 years ago) and how he was an idiot then and how much he regrets it.

Yep. A real MENSA member on top of being a Canes "insider":

Asked what the Anne Frank reference meant, Crowder said "Who was that? Is that the blind girl? Helen Keller ... I don't know who the f--- Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now. F--- it. I'm not as swift as I usually am.

Give him partial credit for knowing Helen Keller.

Post of the week.

 

[Notsince1985]

You think Heaps knows the playbook any better? I question Al's judgment on all kinds of things, but playing Kaaya could go either way. From what I've heard, he had a real shot to beat out Williams before the injury anyway.

It's not like he's got Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly, and Vinny T in front of him.

You heard from who? Yourself when you typed that? There is no way in **** Kaaya was beating out Williams. In fact, I bet Kaaya would have redshirted, especially if Olsen laid off the wacky tobacky.

 

[TheMatador]

Wonder if Olsen can work himself into the equation now that his suspension is over. He's off the weed aint he?

Once on, I doubt than anyone's off the weed. They don't usually send you to detox and rehab just for weed. So, people stay on forever.

 

[The Franchise]

Franchise and Terd hit the nail on the head in page 1. If he's not a freshman, but the University of Miami QB, then give him a chance to act like one. They coached scared and proved to the team that they're full of ****.

Yep. I have no doubt that they lost the team that game. I don't think some people realize how bad that loss was. It basically proved that four years of recruiting, hard work by the kids, and learning new systems are all worth ****, because they got dominated by a coach in his first game at a new school missing his two best players and starting a new QB. Worse yet, they coached scared and that flows down to all the players. The message they sent was "this new QB can't do anything, so you might as well forget about winning this game." No Miami Hurricane should ever have that attitude. I'm so sick of this pathetic, scared, timid, football.

That's why I emphasized do strongly how important that UL game was before the game. That game was everything. Lose it, and the season was basically immediately over because you proved that 4 years in you can't beat a team breaking in 3 entirely new systems with a DC that UGA ran off and that Petrino already hates that was missing all their best players with a first time QB to boot.

P.S. LULZ at the dudes thinking Folden is smart enough or deranged enough to start Kaaya with the idea of tanking and having that as an excuse. If that was his evil plan how is it working out? Everyone wants him fired and the planes are already gassed up.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I assumed Kaaya was a QB, knew Heaps was not, and was happy Kaaya got the job.

Same here. I've seen Heaps for years and bet against him often. He's a limited little guy who seldom gets the ball down the field and isn't particularly accurate on the short and midrange stuff. Hence the yards per attempt below 6.

I didn't know that Kaaya's arm was so suspect. That's the only variable that mattered out of that game, IMO. Everything else was either already known or mendable.

Louisville has a ton of players. That's the aspect so many Canes fans refuse to accept. When you have several first and second round choices in one draft they don't live alone amidst nothing but mediocrities. It means your talent evaluators have done an excellent job overall. There's no way to allow only 4.20 yards per play for an entire season without being loaded and aggressive on that side of the ball. Not exactly shocking it carried over.

Everyone was intent to adjust Louisville downward. New coach, new quarterback, lost defenders, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, they won a BCS game by lopsided margin one season and followed that up by losing exactly one game, and narrowly to a late rally against a quarterback picked third in the draft. Instead of understanding how much it takes to compile that resume we preferred to mock their fans and their city and assume we were birthrighted above them. Made no sense. We lost to them on merit and if we played them again in that stadium we'd lose on merit over and over, regardless of which quarterback we named.

 

[Miami82]

I assumed Kaaya was a QB, knew Heaps was not, and was happy Kaaya got the job.

Same here. I've seen Heaps for years and bet against him often. He's a limited little guy who seldom gets the ball down the field and isn't particularly accurate on the short and midrange stuff. Hence the yards per attempt below 6.

I didn't know that Kaaya's arm was so suspect. That's the only variable that mattered out of that game, IMO. Everything else was either already known or mendable.

Louisville has a ton of players. That's the aspect so many Canes fans refuse to accept. When you have several first and second round choices in one draft they don't live alone amidst nothing but mediocrities. It means your talent evaluators have done an excellent job overall. There's no way to allow only 4.20 yards per play for an entire season without being loaded and aggressive on that side of the ball. Not exactly shocking it carried over.

Everyone was intent to adjust Louisville downward. New coach, new quarterback, lost defenders, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, they won a BCS game by lopsided margin one season and followed that up by losing exactly one game, and narrowly to a late rally against a quarterback picked third in the draft. Instead of understanding how much it takes to compile that resume we preferred to mock their fans and their city and assume we were birthrighted above them. Made no sense. We lost to them on merit and if we played them again in that stadium we'd lose on merit over and over, regardless of which quarterback we named.

You swap staffs and Miami would beat UL 10 out of 10 times. We were and are the more talented team. It is easy to coach kids when you let them do what is natural and be aggressive is what we grow down here in sFla. Sadly the same skill sets that make them top recruits, this staff limits them doing. How moronic is that.

 

[Fightinibis]

Golden really dropped the ball with his decision the start Kaaya.
Really got to question his judgement with that call. Reminds me of when Shannon started Freeman over Wright.
What's funny is that it went against his going by the playbook style of sticking with the tried and tested formula of going with the experienced player.
If it was against FAMU in a home opener then whatever.
But it was a tough road game against a conference opponent who had just finished pushing our **** in in the bowl game.

Really made no sense to do it as it unwittingly forced them to play conservative.

Had they sided with starting the SR with experience the playbook would have been more open which may have meant better results.

Besides Heaps looked to be the better leader who would rally the troops.. I didn't see Kaaya do none of that. I get that he's cool calm and collected but goddam give me a qb with some emotion.

Where did you see all of this? I heard of quite a few picks and poor decision making by Heaps in camp?!?

Bottom line...if a 6'4 215 or whatever pound QB with some mobility can't get enough protection, how can a 5'10 or 5'11 guy with reportedly negative mobility standing in concrete not get crushed?

Yes, my position is based on an assumption, who really knows,...but experience at QB can't fix bull**** play calls and an inability to f-ng block.

Everybody is acting like Heaps has been in this black hole of a system for 3 years and the coaches were just going to cut loose with him like MAYBE they MIGHT have with Williams...sorry, not buying it. It would have been the same old **** trying to run a stellar 5'9 back into a wall of defenders IF he could get around his OL's *** in his face 2 yards in the backfield.

Blaming "too conservative" of a game plan is just another out for Golden IMHO. He KNEW FOR A FACT that they couldn't do it loong before even beginning work on Louisville, he f-n knew it, but yet again... kept going to deep stretch east and west runs?!?!? Awww f-this...its making my head hurt all over again...

UM

 

[canesrdynamite]

You think Heaps knows the playbook any better? I question Al's judgment on all kinds of things, but playing Kaaya could go either way. From what I've heard, he had a real shot to beat out Williams before the injury anyway.

It's not like he's got Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly, and Vinny T in front of him.

You heard from who? Yourself when you typed that? There is no way in **** Kaaya was beating out Williams. In fact, I bet Kaaya would have redshirted, especially if Olsen laid off the wacky tobacky.

lol nice

well maybe the guys i listen to are not very well informed. It would've been better if he did shirt, but when you've got a huge vacuum at qb and no clear direction for the offense... it doesn't surprise me that he ends up starting.

 

[cowboycane]

Gotta love this. Kaaya gets handcuffed by the OC and as a result gets beat up, and these are the new FACTS on the board:

1.) Williams is the real savior (newsflash: Williams is pretty mediocre, or have we forgotten the 2012 UNC game?)
2.) Golden made the wrong call (2 weeks ago everyone said that if Golden started Heaps over Kaaya he was nutless)
3.) Heaps could have done better (Heaps is awful and has been awful at a bunch of places...if you think we got beat bad with Kaaya, imagine how terrible it would have been with Heaps throwing 4 picks)

 

[PuertoRiCane]

I'm ok with starting Kaaya. Better than letting him get away and be a stud somewhere else.

I'm just tired of having a prevent defense for the last four years, now with a prevent offense.

 

[sabrose]

IMO, starting Kaaya was Coley's decision. He wanted to roll with the guy whom he personally identified and recruited. These seniors obviously want to win now, so it should be interesting how they support the true freshman going forward

I agree .Blame this on Coley from the get go.

 

[ncncanes]

Of course they wanted Heaps. The day you announce your starting a true frosh we almost guaranteed a loss to Louisville. These guys here for there last season don't want a true frosh as the qb.

We would have lost with Dan Marino at QB ---- zero time