TheMatador
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how foolish of you not to see this as political. If you believe this is about fair trade you are not paying attention. AND….. wait until the other half gets involved! The IRS is going to want its money too. lol If you think an employee can get a 200,000$ education, food, housing, tutoring, plane tickets, hotel stays, a salary, ect and its all or some portion of it is not taxable… lol you sir need to open your eyes. Don't worry your Government and local union rep has you and your families best interest in mind. For government once that union employee gets paid the tax the schools DO NOT pay on certain revenue streams will be redistributed and become taxable. This is not and will NEVER BE ABOUT THE KIDS. It is about redistributing wealth and insuring the government gets MORE. Wake up Do not fear their is an attorney, accountant, congressman and some other very smart people working much harder than you to make sure everyone (lol) gets theirs. You might want to google about the last NFL and NHL union deals. The players got destroyed, the owners got more money and the unions grew their share. This is big boy time…. children and stupid adults line up in the back. Guessing you thought the health care was going to be free?good news… the unions/federal government will insure that every offer is a four year deal with a pension. Every kid will get a salary, car and an HR rep to insure they are treated like flowers. I can't wait to see the law suite's issued for coaches raising their voices in practice. Heaven forbid a union rep witnesses a union member struggle with weights that are to heavy. We will all become fans of soccer and rugby.![]()
It's obvious the lefties, progressives and libs are after a manly sport like football. They've been attacking pro football for a while now and now they've found a way to undercut college football. If allowed to stand, and spread to other schools (which it will) you'll have disgruntled players calling for a strike right before a big rivalry game. The schools will pay all the money to refund ticket money, the other money invested will be lost, the TV contracts will be violated, Corso and crew will have to buy some last minute plane tickets to another venue, and they'll be so unprepared they won't even have those mascot heads or whatever it is they wear to pick that days game. It will be a fiasco.
A player will get redshirted, and file a union grievance. An arbitrator will decide if a kid who committed and wants to back out two months after signing day can renege on his commitment--the school will be left holding the bag when it's too late to find a replacement for the kid they were planning as a key part of their season's planning.
If a kid doesn't want to play because he doesn't want to risk further injury that might affect him four months later for the pro combines, he'll sit out.
This could extend to all aspects of student life. If the scholarship player doesn't like his dorm room (and he probably already has the most luxurious dorm on campus) he'll grieve it as a part of his working conditions and be allowed to displace somebody else in another dorm room.
If a coach yells at a player, and the player doesn't like it, he can grieve it as some kind of hostile and adverse working condition. Players will be filing grievances over position changes. When a coach signals in a play that the QB doesn't like, the QB will call time, and come to the sideline and demand that his union steward be present at the conference with the coach.
Of course, this will all work very well for the type of prima donna divas that seem to be emerging among the elite of south Florida talent. I would say, let them go to Alabama or whatever in the SEC and let them destroy those programs from within with all their special demands and expectations. Of course, it might not work, since those are mainly southern right-to-work states. So they might have to agree not to sign a union card as a condition of their scholarship.
What a mess this will be....
How stupid to try and turn this into a political rant. This has zero to do with politics. I know as many "righties", including some hard core righties, who have been calling for college football to be treated this way for a LONG time. The view of whether players should be paid and be treated as employees, or not, crosses various political bents.![]()
Funny you should mention the IRS....I recall back in the mid-80's, when we lost a prime recruit to the University of Texas, the son of a former NFL star who had fallen on hard times, ended up at that school by surprise. JJ and his staff were shocked. They thought the only competition was Notre Dame. Out of nowhere here comes UT and swoops down on this kid and lands him. The rumor was that his father got a substantial bundle of money to send his son to UT. Sam Jankovich was furious, he was quoted publicly as stating that the IRS should start investigating unreported income from all these payoffs. It might be the same year we lost a couple of coveted linemen from Illinois to none other than Illinois DL coach (and later our DL coach) Bob Karmelowicz. There were many stories and I think credible, that the kids were paid by Illinois. I think all the kids involved were considered strong commits to our program, but they were bought off at the last minute.
Ironically, I was working at the IRS in one of their legal units at the time, and I agreed that there was a lot of money that was reportable as income passing hands, but not being reported. I didn't have direct knowledge, but I knew that the money should have been reported. Of course, i didn't have access to tax returns, but I suspect neither the kids nor their parents were reporting what they received as inducements as income. So yeah, all this business of illegal payoffs to recruits involves all of us, since it affects the public fisc.
Yes, the kids should receive more than they do now, what I don't know, but it might very well be taxable.