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The practical steps to finishing the 2019 season strong to re-light our recruiting and fan base:

  • Priority #1: Bring back the Top 3 defense — Manny has proven he can create monsters on D. He needs to put his HC *** on the line for this primary objective. We lost 5 good horses to the draft this year— but we have a couple future stars in GR and NS
  • Priority #2: Play the GAME TIME QB — I don’t want to hear about film-room/practice-time stars.... We need game time winners who can improvise around our porous OL.
  • Priority #3: Modify the Offense -- to play with weak-link O-Line. We are NOT going to fix the OL this year— there isn’t the talent to do so- ZERO. The QB, RB, TE and WR need to have a game plan that maximizes their strengths and relies less on the OL holding back the rush. Bubble screen them to death, quick swing pass, WR sweeps, quick outs, QB scrambles, Wild-cats (TATE?!)

These adjustments and modifications can help us possibly Win out in 2019. The momentum will win recruits and fans. This will help us launch into 2020.

But let’s be honest— I don’t believe we’ll be able to even SNIFF Clemson’s jockstraps without another 2-3 years of Top 5 recruiting classes and exceptional coaching. But that’s the future— what we need to focus on right now is the present opportunities for IMPROVEMENT.


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Liquidstoke said:
The practical steps to finishing the 2019 season strong to re-light our recruiting and fan base:

  • Priority #1: Bring back the Top 3 defense — Manny has proven he can create monsters on D. He needs to put his HC *** on the line for this primary objective. We lost 5 good horses to the draft this year— but we have a couple future stars in GR and NS
  • Priority #2: Play the GAME TIME QB — I don’t want to hear about film-room/practice-time stars.... We need game time winners who can improvise around our porous OL.
  • Priority #3: Modify the Offense to play with weak-link O-Line. We are NOT going to fix the OL this year— there isn’t the talent to do so- ZERO. The QB, RB, TE and WR need to have a game plan that maximizes their strengths and relies less on the OL holding back the rush. Bubble screen them to death, quick swing pass, WR sweeps, quick outs, QB scrambles, Wild-cats (TATE?!)

These adjustments and modifications can help us possibly Win our 2019. The momentum will win recruits and fans. This will help us launch into 2020.

But let’s be honest— I don’t believe we’ll be able to even SNIFF Clemson’s jockstraps without another 2-3 years or Top 5 recruiting classes and exceptional coaching. But that’s the future— what we need to focus on right now is the present opportunities for IMPROVEMENT.


Go Canes...
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With the Clemson is currently recruiting...you got that right.
 
JD08 said:
Instead of modifying the offense to accommodate a weak O line, maybe start by fixing the O line and the other problems won't be so exacerbated.
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This corching staph on the O side can’t fix a 5-star line needing adjustments. We’ve seen Enos expose the obvious, getting our QBs slammed to the ground.
 
S.CarolinaCane said:
With the Clemson is currently recruiting...you got that right.
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South Carolina just beat UGA. You think USCe has anywhere near the talent level of UGA? Georgia has crushed recruiting for 3 straight years.

We don't play Clemson 12 games in a row. Just have to beat them once. UNC showed that Lawrence is not perfect. And has been pointed out, Clemson doesn't have a single O Lineman in the NFL. The Clemson OL wins with scheme. The Miami DL will have several draft picks (and maybe a couple 1st rounders).

Besides, Miami had a shot at making the playoffs in 2017 even WITH a loss to Clemson, but Richt blew that chance with the Pitt loss.
 
TimeB0mb said:
South Carolina just beat UGA. You think USCe has anywhere near the talent level of UGA? Georgia has crushed recruiting for 3 straight years.

We don't play Clemson 12 games in a row. Just have to beat them once. UNC showed that Lawrence is not perfect. And has been pointed out, Clemson doesn't have a single O Lineman in the NFL. The Clemson OL wins with scheme. The Miami DL will have several draft picks (and maybe a couple 1st rounders).

Besides, Miami had a shot at making the playoffs in 2017 even WITH a loss to Clemson, but Richt blew that chance with the Pitt loss.
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This!
 
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TimeB0mb said:
South Carolina just beat UGA. You think USCe has anywhere near the talent level of UGA? Georgia has crushed recruiting for 3 straight years.

We don't play Clemson 12 games in a row. Just have to beat them once. UNC showed that Lawrence is not perfect. And has been pointed out, Clemson doesn't have a single O Lineman in the NFL. The Clemson OL wins with scheme. The Miami DL will have several draft picks (and maybe a couple 1st rounders).

Besides, Miami had a shot at making the playoffs in 2017 even WITH a loss to Clemson, but Richt blew that chance with the Pitt loss.
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No chance 1-loss Miami gets in over 1-loss Alabama without a conference title and having lost by 30+ to Clemson.
 
The problem is that Coach Manny is still young and he is learning on the go. He can be great given time but we as fans, alumni, former players want to win now and I don't think we are in a wait to see mode. He can be a great coach ONLY if he has the gray beards around him to mold him and guide him while he has full command to run the team. That is hard to come by plus someone that has long tenure in the game that is willing to trust his judgments. He has no sources, no plugs where he can get top notch veterans assistants. So this what we are working with. Enos has his own agenda in mind and he didn't really want to work with Coach Saban anymore. Even with that Saban still has his assistants get better gigs year in and year out because his blueprint has a winning formula.

It goes without saying " Your only as great as the team you have working for you."

This off season given if he has a better record then last year will be crucial for his tenure and success at the univ of Miami! He has no choice to make changes in his staff . There will be a lot of great coaches for hire after this season that is on the hot seat and this can work in his favor if he can play his cards right and have the same talk game with them as he does w/ us!



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ALLoverCANE said:
No chance 1-loss Miami gets in over 1-loss Alabama without a conference title and having lost by 30+ to Clemson.
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Not with a 30 point loss. But if Miami beats Pitt, we are probably #1 going into Clemson. A 31-30 loss (say we lose in double OT like UGA did) and Miami probably gets the #4 spot.
 
S.CarolinaCane said:
That won't happen this season. The experience level and apparently the talent level, isn't there.
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But have you seen any improvement? You'd expect a good coach to develop players at least some during the course of the season and we're halfway.
 
TimeB0mb said:
South Carolina just beat UGA. You think USCe has anywhere near the talent level of UGA? Georgia has crushed recruiting for 3 straight years.

We don't play Clemson 12 games in a row. Just have to beat them once. UNC showed that Lawrence is not perfect. And has been pointed out, Clemson doesn't have a single O Lineman in the NFL. The Clemson OL wins with scheme. The Miami DL will have several draft picks (and maybe a couple 1st rounders).

Besides, Miami had a shot at making the playoffs in 2017 even WITH a loss to Clemson, but Richt blew that chance with the Pitt loss.
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Y'all keep forgetting that we lost both Ahmon RIchards AND Chris Herndon late that year to injuries.....even with Rosier's hurt shoulder and weak arm, we still would have beaten both Pitt and Clemson had both of them played. No, Rosier was not a great QB, but Richards and Herndon were beasts that could not be stopped. They required double teams that made it easier for other receivers to get open. That would have changed the outcome of both games.
 
JD08 said:
But have you seen any improvement? You'd expect a good coach to develop players at least some during the course of the season and we're halfway.
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I have seen regression in many area's. Almost zero if any development of players.
 
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#1cane said:
I have seen regression in many area's. Almost zero if any development of players.
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Going from being scored 45 by VT to holding a dangerous UVA Offense to 3 field goals with 5 red zone entries was a HUGE improvement

Here is my logic on what "IMPROVEMENT" means to this team:
  1. We start with a 7-6 team from 2018 and subtract 5 NFL quality players from Defense
  2. Defense starts without 3 major pieces-- Nesta, Bolden, Hill.... It's a new D now with them in the game
  3. We get an essentially brand new coaching staff 10 months ago -- yes Manny came back-- but at HC instead of staying on D
  4. New OC/QB coach who is still install a brand new O scheme and training his Fresh/Soph QB's how to run them-- folks that takes time...
  5. Our strength is the stable of RB's, TE and WR this year... but matched with a very green O-line
The 15 yr old whiners on this board can cry all they want about "Shanny" and "Penos" but it just shows how ignorant they are about CFB and what it takes to rebuild a crumbling 7-6 team.

The team is finally at full strength at Defense for the first time this year with Nesta and Bolden into the game. If the Defensive unit continues to show the fight it had at UVA-- we can definitely win out this year.

The QB situation just clarified itself with Kosi showing he's got the superior game time playmaking ability that's also negating some of the O-Line weakness because he can improvise and still sling the ball down-field.

So yes-- there are measurable improvements. But as always-- that improvement is a game-by-game assessment.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Not with a 30 point loss. But if Miami beats Pitt, we are probably #1 going into Clemson. A 31-30 loss (say we lose in double OT like UGA did) and Miami probably gets the #4 spot.
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Sure, but that didn't come close to happening. We lost by 10 to Pitt and by 35 to Clemson.

It's a much bigger stretch to say "had we taken Clemson to double OT", when they dominated us for 60 minutes, than it is to say "had we beat Pitt". We were probably 5-6 plays away from beating Pitt, and 20-30 plays away from even being competitive with Clemson. (And no, I don't believe that there were any plays early in the game that could've swung things. They were far superior for 60 minutes. Even had some of those early plays gone our way, eventually they would've asserted their dominance.)

So anyways, this hypothetical seems like pure make-believe.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Not with a 30 point loss. But if Miami beats Pitt, we are probably #1 going into Clemson. A 31-30 loss (say we lose in double OT like UGA did) and Miami probably gets the #4 spot.
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I like your passion and optimism....

But we ain't close to challenging Clemson....

They would do to us what they did to FSU--- 40+ points to our 10-14...
 
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