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he is still QB coach at the panthers.. and soon will be gobbled up by the NFL.

let him come him run the spread like the panthers let him croot and take over as HC down the road..
tell richts kid to hit the road
 
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I'm as big a Ken Dorsey fan as there is...but what indication do you have that he would be a good OC?
 
Torocane said:
I'm as big a Ken Dorsey fan as there is...but what indication do you have that he would be a good OC?
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COACHING
A former NFL quarterback and record-setting passer at the University of Miami (Fla.), Ken Dorsey is in his fourth season as the Panthers' quarterbacks coach in 2016.

Under Dorsey's tutelage in 2015, Cam Newton was named the NFL's Most Valuable Player and Offensive Player of the Year by multiple outlets, including the Associated Press, and led the Panthers to an appearance in Super Bowl 50. Newton threw for a career-high 35 touchdowns produced a career-high 99.4 quarterback rating, leading the NFL with 45 total touchdowns (35 passing, 10 rushing) and becoming the first player in NFL history with at least 30 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in a single season.

Newton led four game-winning drives, tied for most in the NFL, and directed a Carolina offense that set team records with an NFL-leading 500 points and 59 touchdowns and gained a team-record 357 first downs. A Pro Bowl selection and first-team All-Pro, Newton was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week five times, tied with Tom Brady in 2007 for the most in a season in NFL history. Newton's 21,470 combined rushing and passing yards are the most in a player's first five seasons in NFL history.

In 2014, Dorsey helped Newton battle through an assortment of injuries and become the first player in NFL history to pass for more than 3,000 yards and rush for more than 500 yards in four consecutive seasons, passing for 3,127 yards and rushing for 539 yards. In Carolina's 41-10 victory Week 14 at New Orleans (12/7/14), Newton led an offense that amassed 497 yards – tied for the third most in team history – and accounted for four touchdowns (three passing, one rushing) to earn NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

When injuries caused Newton to miss two games at Tampa Bay (9/7/14) and versus Tampa Bay (12/14/14), Dorsey turned to backup Derek Anderson, his former teammate with the Cleveland Browns. Anderson won both starts, completing 66 percent of his passes for 507 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions to produce a 99.3 passer rating.

In 2013, Dorsey helped Newton earn his second Pro Bowl selection and establish career highs in completion percentage (61.7), passing touchdowns (24) and passer rating (88.8). Under Dorsey's guidance, Newton led the Panthers to a 12-4 record, an NFC South title and the team's first playoff appearance since 2008. Newton was at his best down the stretch, directing Carolina to an 11-1 record in the final 12 regular season games while posting a 92.6 passer rating and orchestrating four game-winning drives during that time. Only two quarterbacks had more game-winning drives than Newton in the regular season.

Dorsey took over as quarterbacks coach in 2013 following two seasons as a pro scout for Carolina from 2011-12. In this role, Dorsey advanced the Panthers' upcoming opponents each week and evaluated free agents and prospects on other NFL rosters.

Prior to coming to Carolina, Dorsey served as an instructor at IMG Academy. He helped train NFL prospects before the 2011 NFL Draft, working with quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers.

Dorsey played six years in the NFL from 2003-08 after being selected in the seventh round by the San Francisco 49ers in 2003. He spent three seasons with the 49ers and then three with the Cleveland Browns, making 13 starts and completing 214-of-408 passes for 2,082 yards and eight touchdowns. Dorsey finished his pro career with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League in 2010.

PLAYING AND PERSONAL
A standout at the University of Miami (Fla.) from 1999-2002, Dorsey is the winningest quarterback in school history with a 38-2 record as a starter and led the Hurricanes to the 2001 national championship. He was inducted into the University of Miami Sports Hall of Fame in May 2013.

The two-time Heisman Trophy finalist (2001, 2002) set numerous school records and still ranks as the all-time leader with 9,565 passing yards and 86 touchdown passes, while his 668 completions and 1,153 pass attempts stand second. As a junior in 2001, Dorsey won the Maxwell Award - presented to the college football player of the year - when he passed for 2,652 yards and 23 touchdowns on 184-of-318 attempts to compile a passer rating of 146.1.

He graduated with degrees in marketing and business management.

HISTORY
Quarterback: Miami (Fla.) 1999-2002. Pro quarterback: San Francisco 49ers 2003-05, Cleveland Browns 2006-08, Toronto Argonauts (CFL) 2010. Pro coach: Joined Panthers in 2013.
 
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The allure of Dorsey. When Cam is excellent it is because of Dorsey. When Cam is not. It is because of Cam.

I'd take him for the 1% chance he could get Rosier to look 1% like Cam and see if he is better for a quarter of live play than Kaaya.
 
Angry Ibis said:
The allure of Dorsey. When Cam is excellent it is because of Dorsey. When Cam is not. It is because of Cam.

I'd take him for the 1% chance he could get Rosier to look 1% like Cam and see if he is better for a quarter of live play than Kaaya.
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I think he stays in the NFL, but my guess is Kenny might be a tad better than Richts kid
 
Gamineal said:
Angry Ibis said:
The allure of Dorsey. When Cam is excellent it is because of Dorsey. When Cam is not. It is because of Cam.

I'd take him for the 1% chance he could get Rosier to look 1% like Cam and see if he is better for a quarter of live play than Kaaya.
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I think he stays in the NFL, but my guess is Kenny might be a tad better than Richts kid
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I bet he is, which is why he won't need to settle for a college job.

Bottom line. We bought into the spoon fed hype that in year one the Richt-Kaaya connection was going to be amazing. It isn't. Something is broken. Execution is failing.
 
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The situation at UM is too fragile for a 1st time OC, even Dorsey. Getting an unproven OC for the sake of having one is a losing proposition. The only solution is the same one you used with Richt, invest in someone proven.
 
With what money?Richt probably used his allotted budget and that's why we have a few very questionable offensive coaches right now.Plus,Dorsey has never been a OC. Great idea.
 
Gamineal said:
he is still QB coach at the panthers.. and soon will be gobbled up by the NFL.

let him come him run the spread like the panthers let him croot and take over as HC down the road..
tell richts kid to hit the road
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I wonder what Dorsey would do with an offense who is having trouble with executing even the simplest plays correctly in practice much less a game...

Everyone wants to open the play book but like thats like a parent of an idiot complaining to a teach that he grades suck because they have em in basic math and starts screaming to put in him in calc to improve his grades.

Its a new FN offense and these dudes cant even run the vanilla in practice. There is an old saying thats fitting here... you can't do anything on game day that you haven't done in practice. When you hear your OC whose already running a vanilla O keep complaining that they cant get the plays right in practice it should be giant red flag.
 
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Gamineal said:
Torocane said:
I'm as big a Ken Dorsey fan as there is...but what indication do you have that he would be a good OC?
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COACHING
A former NFL quarterback and record-setting passer at the University of Miami (Fla.), Ken Dorsey is in his fourth season as the Panthers' quarterbacks coach in 2016.

Under Dorsey's tutelage in 2015, Cam Newton was named the NFL's Most Valuable Player and Offensive Player of the Year by multiple outlets, including the Associated Press, and led the Panthers to an appearance in Super Bowl 50. Newton threw for a career-high 35 touchdowns produced a career-high 99.4 quarterback rating, leading the NFL with 45 total touchdowns (35 passing, 10 rushing) and becoming the first player in NFL history with at least 30 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in a single season.

Newton led four game-winning drives, tied for most in the NFL, and directed a Carolina offense that set team records with an NFL-leading 500 points and 59 touchdowns and gained a team-record 357 first downs. A Pro Bowl selection and first-team All-Pro, Newton was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week five times, tied with Tom Brady in 2007 for the most in a season in NFL history. Newton's 21,470 combined rushing and passing yards are the most in a player's first five seasons in NFL history.

In 2014, Dorsey helped Newton battle through an assortment of injuries and become the first player in NFL history to pass for more than 3,000 yards and rush for more than 500 yards in four consecutive seasons, passing for 3,127 yards and rushing for 539 yards. In Carolina's 41-10 victory Week 14 at New Orleans (12/7/14), Newton led an offense that amassed 497 yards – tied for the third most in team history – and accounted for four touchdowns (three passing, one rushing) to earn NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

When injuries caused Newton to miss two games at Tampa Bay (9/7/14) and versus Tampa Bay (12/14/14), Dorsey turned to backup Derek Anderson, his former teammate with the Cleveland Browns. Anderson won both starts, completing 66 percent of his passes for 507 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions to produce a 99.3 passer rating.

In 2013, Dorsey helped Newton earn his second Pro Bowl selection and establish career highs in completion percentage (61.7), passing touchdowns (24) and passer rating (88.8). Under Dorsey's guidance, Newton led the Panthers to a 12-4 record, an NFC South title and the team's first playoff appearance since 2008. Newton was at his best down the stretch, directing Carolina to an 11-1 record in the final 12 regular season games while posting a 92.6 passer rating and orchestrating four game-winning drives during that time. Only two quarterbacks had more game-winning drives than Newton in the regular season.

Dorsey took over as quarterbacks coach in 2013 following two seasons as a pro scout for Carolina from 2011-12. In this role, Dorsey advanced the Panthers' upcoming opponents each week and evaluated free agents and prospects on other NFL rosters.

Prior to coming to Carolina, Dorsey served as an instructor at IMG Academy. He helped train NFL prospects before the 2011 NFL Draft, working with quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers.

Dorsey played six years in the NFL from 2003-08 after being selected in the seventh round by the San Francisco 49ers in 2003. He spent three seasons with the 49ers and then three with the Cleveland Browns, making 13 starts and completing 214-of-408 passes for 2,082 yards and eight touchdowns. Dorsey finished his pro career with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League in 2010.

PLAYING AND PERSONAL
A standout at the University of Miami (Fla.) from 1999-2002, Dorsey is the winningest quarterback in school history with a 38-2 record as a starter and led the Hurricanes to the 2001 national championship. He was inducted into the University of Miami Sports Hall of Fame in May 2013.

The two-time Heisman Trophy finalist (2001, 2002) set numerous school records and still ranks as the all-time leader with 9,565 passing yards and 86 touchdown passes, while his 668 completions and 1,153 pass attempts stand second. As a junior in 2001, Dorsey won the Maxwell Award - presented to the college football player of the year - when he passed for 2,652 yards and 23 touchdowns on 184-of-318 attempts to compile a passer rating of 146.1.

He graduated with degrees in marketing and business management.

HISTORY
Quarterback: Miami (Fla.) 1999-2002. Pro quarterback: San Francisco 49ers 2003-05, Cleveland Browns 2006-08, Toronto Argonauts (CFL) 2010. Pro coach: Joined Panthers in 2013.
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That's cool. But all that shows is that he is a good QB coach.
Doesn't say a thing about how he would be do as an OC.
 
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Gus Malzahn was also a "great offensive mind" that time when he had Cam Newton. Now look at his numbers.
 
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