Head-to-Head Precedence From This Committee

[MikeCane18]

Why do you think the committee will not rank miami ahead of nd if the supposed scenario happens and byu loses and Bama wins? What do you base that on or just your honest hunch?

I disagree.

Why would they honor head to head 14 of 14 times and not honor it in the last instance involving miami and ND?

Because all those other times they honored it there were more rankings and games to play out, it wasn't a finality situation. It is now.

If were are ranking the machines in any type of order it would go like this:

1. SEC - Committee wouldn't exist moving forward if they did anything to slight the SEC.
2. B1G
3. ND
4. Big 12
5. ACC

 

[clg003]

I think we all agree what's happened to this point is complete bull****, and you don't need to be directly sequential in the rankings for head to head to matter. However, the committee chair has basically said that a few times now. So I wanted to look to see what this committee has done to this point. It's pretty evident, that of all the total nonsense they've done, the only thing they've actually gotten correct is putting teams ahead of others that they beat, when they are right next to each other in the rankings.

Now, you might say this is pointless and Miami is never getting in. I won't argue, nobody has been more vocal on here than me that we'll find some way to get screwed. The books still say we're out...we're +650 on DK. So, my entire point here is that if Bama and Texas Tech win on Saturday, the committee will be under immense pressure to finally make this right. If that happens, and they move BYU down a spot, the natural progression is ND stays at 10, Miami moves up to 11, and now they're directly next to each other in the rankings. Check this out, I went back through every single week of their rankings to this point and looked at teams who had played, and if they were next to each other in the rankings, how the committee placed them:

First Week:
Bama is 4, UGA is 5. Bama had beaten UGA head to head
UGA is 5, Ole Miss is 6. UGA had beaten Ole Miss head to head
Texas is 11, OU is 12. Texas had beaten OU head to head
UVA is 14, Louisville is 15. UVA had beaten Louisville head to head

Second Week:
Bama is 4, UGA is 5. Bama had beaten UGA head to head
Texas is 10, OU is 11. Texas had beaten OU head to head
BYU is 12, Utah is 13. BYU had beaten Utah head to head
USC is 17, Michigan is 18. USC had beaten Michigan head to head
UVA is 19, Louisville is 20. UVA had beaten Louisville head to head

Third Week:
BYU is 11, Utah is 12. BYU had beaten Utah head to head

Fourth Week:
Ole Miss is 7, OU is 8. Ole Miss had beaten OU head to head
Pitt is 22, GT is 23. Pitt had beaten GT head to head

Fifth Week:
OU is 8, Alabama is 9. OU had beaten Alabama head to head
Texas is 13, Vandy is 14. Texas had beaten Vandy head to head

So, unless I'm missing some, there have been 14 instances just this year, from this committee, where teams who have played on the field were listed sequentially in the rankings. IN EVERY SINGLE CASE, the committee actually did apply logic, and the team who won was higher, the team who lost was one spot behind.

All of this to say, they've had 14 tries at this, and they got it right 14 times. If nothing else, they have actually been logical about this particular situation. And it's common sense, for Christ's sake.

So, if you ask me is Miami getting in, my answer is no. We're not allowed to have nice things. But if, somehow, we actually get some luck (you know, the think we've gotten absolutely NONE of the past month), this has the potential to get real interesting. Of course, BYU can get blasted, and these ******** can come out and leave them 11 and tell us you don't get penalized for losing in a conference championship game. They can ***** us however they want. But, the one thing I believe they CANNOT do, is submit a final ballot that has ND 10th and Miami 11th. And that is likely how this is going to go if Bama and Texas Tech win on Saturday. BYU has to drop getting their 2nd loss, especially if they get smoked, Miami naturally moves up one spot. Now you have Miami and Notre Dame, back to back. 14 times this committee has looked at this exact situation, and 14 times they have put the winner on the field ahead of the loser.

Do they do the same on Sunday morning?

I’ve finally come up for air….

And I’ve come to realize that it’s corrupt. The members of the CFP have an agenda and they don’t care about fairness and they have grudges.

They literally moved Alabama up for a struggle win against a team that did not qualify for a bowl. If any other non SEC team in playoffs struggled like that against a team that, including against Auburn they would have dropped.

Pitt would beat Auburn. Yet our win did nothing.

The only way any of this makes sense is if you give up on fairness logic and you start viewing it from the committee agenda logic.

The worst part about all of this is everyone is screaming but no one is doing anything about it. Every conf commissioner should be coming hard at the CFP process and saying it’s dead. The cfp commission has proven that don’t value fairness and they have no set rules that apply to all teams across the board. In a sport where corruption exists at so many levels allowing a group of dudes in a room to debate and change the rules as they see fit simply can’t be trusted and it’s dead. We will no longer participate in it.

 

[Memnon]

The committee throws all rules & logic to the wind when it comes to Notre Lame.

They have this hellbent agenda on shoehorning them in the playoffs as much as they can.

We could play Notre Dame 4 times in one season, beat them each game by 30 & the committee would still figure out a way to put them in the CFBP.

 

[90scane]

A 3 loss bama and 2 loss byu should not get in.

if Boise drops their game vs UNLV, it is another hit to ND but I don’t see the committee changing anything

 

[Hoyacane1620]

I’ve finally come up for air….

And I’ve come to realize that it’s corrupt. The members of the CFP have an agenda and they don’t care about fairness and they have grudges.

They literally moved Alabama up for a struggle win against a team that did not qualify for a bowl. If any other non SEC team in playoffs struggled like that against a team that, including against Auburn they would have dropped.

Pitt would beat Auburn. Yet our win did nothing.

The only way any of this makes sense is if you give up on fairness logic and you start viewing it from the committee agenda logic.

The worst part about all of this is everyone is screaming but no one is doing anything about it. Every conf commissioner should be coming hard at the CFP process and saying it’s dead. The cfp commission has proven that don’t value fairness and they have no set rules that apply to all teams across the board. In a sport where corruption exists at so many levels allowing a group of dudes in a room to debate and change the rules as they see fit simply can’t be trusted and it’s dead. We will no longer participate in it.

Sankey is/has been behind the scenes quietly pulling strings. The Big10 is happy right now because they may have 3 of the byes week 1.
If that were not the case, the Big would be screaming too.

They know the ACC has a loser Conference commissioner who won't rock the boat. He has been mute, except for a weak tweet. It's really pathetic. I wish I believed the ADs in the ACC would do something about him but I don't see that happening. Miami's own AD has been pretty weak on this.

The Big 12 will get at least the one bid they expected. The real wildcard here was the ACC and the Group of 5 schools.