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Jordan played well too. so Hartley didn't just recruit well. Njoku, Herndon played excellently. Jordan had a good game. Just didn't help that Rosier couldn't ******* hit him wide open. I was impressed Brevin blocked well when he was asked to
 
calinative umstudent said:
Jordan played well too. so Hartley didn't just recruit well. Njoku, Herndon played excellently. Jordan had a good game. Just didn't help that Rosier couldn't ******* hit him wide open. I was impressed Brevin blocked well when he was asked to
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Yeah Hartley is a good TE coach and excellent recruiter. But good special teams coach he is not. Honestly need to get rid of the entire defensive coaching staff. Get rid of little richt. Hire a competent OC. The only 2 position coaches i really like are hartley and dugans. The rest of them can go tbh
 
calinative umstudent said:
Jordan played well too. so Hartley didn't just recruit well. Njoku, Herndon played excellently. Jordan had a good game. Just didn't help that Rosier couldn't ******* hit him wide open. I was impressed Brevin blocked well when he was asked to
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Hartley the TE coach is very good and a great recruiter Keep him!. But Hartley the ST coach needs to be replaced. Its not just the kicker, first quarter two LSU guys come free towards the kicker, we looked lost. Watching VT vs FSU now I see VT blocking punts, running back punts for 15 - 20 yard gains. We should be better its been concerning since Hartley took over.
 
I doubt Hartley is a good TEs coach I think he’s a terrible coach period... just a good recruiter.
 
The only thing I'll say about special teams is that Bubba's alignment on the second field goal was way off. In Las Vegas we used to make man-to-man bets on field goal attempts all day long in the sportsbooks. A few of us, anyway. Year after year. The bottom line wasn't make or miss, but which side of dead center. Once you got a feel for it under that criteria is became surprisingly easy, and you got a feel for each kicker's mechanics, not unlike a golf swing.

Anyway, I can state with absolute certainty that as soon as Bubba lined up for that second field goal, everybody from that Las Vegas group would have immediately shouted, "Left." I shouted "Left" in my living room as others laughed. It only happens occasionally when the kicker is so far poorly aligned that the direction is glaring. Bubba made a sloppy adjustment on his shuffle steps and didn't go nearly far enough left. It had to be a pull hook with that type of alignment. I wasn't sure he would miss but it was definitely going to threaten left upright more than dead center.

However, to his credit he made a nice adjustment on the first extra point and his shuffle steps were perfect. I wasn't sure where than one was going. It turned out to be a very slight push to the right center of the uprights.

Oh, the deep onside kick was actually very well designed but maybe 3-5 yards further right than ideal. The announcers didn't emphasize enough how close that came to burning LSU, which was not well prepared.
 
Hartley is a monster recruiter and that's about it. He was an operations guy with limited coaching experience. What did we expect?
 
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I need to know what the **** Hartley is saying in these coaching meetings when asked about our punting situation. If he is sugarcoating things he need to be replaced.
 
calinative umstudent said:
Jordan played well too. so Hartley didn't just recruit well. Njoku, Herndon played excellently. Jordan had a good game. Just didn't help that Rosier couldn't ******* hit him wide open. I was impressed Brevin blocked well when he was asked to
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Hartley seems like a good TE coach, and an elite recruiter. Keep him on staff. But ST duties need to go to someone else.
 
AllAboutDaU said:
Yeah Hartley is a good TE coach and excellent recruiter. But good special teams coach he is not. Honestly need to get rid of the entire defensive coaching staff. Get rid of little richt. Hire a competent OC. The only 2 position coaches i really like are hartley and dugans. The rest of them can go tbh
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I don't think K/P have anything to do with the skill of the ST coordinator. Thats almost purely off the skill of the player. Unless we have a coach that is primarily a ST guy and that all he does, I don't see how taking Hartley off ST does anything good for us unless we are firing Jon Richt or Patke and hiring someone else that happens to know how to train kickers specifically. The main thing a ST Coordinator teaches is the actuall coverage teams and returning blocking/returners. The only negative I can see there over the past couple years is that we have been pretty conservative as far as when we choose to return Punts and Kicks. We've had legit gunners - Homer is a beast at it on punts. And our coverage is usually pretty good.

Secondly you're point about firing all the Defensive Coaches is dumb. We had a great defense last year. Patke and Banda? Yeah I wouldn't be upset to see them go. But our DLine played well and I think for the most part the CBs did too last year and yesterday. Diaz has done well so far. He obviously blitzes too much, and sometimes the 3rd down Defense isn't great. But lets not act like last season didn't happen okay. We ******* we're great last season.
 
AllAboutDaU said:
Yeah Hartley is a good TE coach and excellent recruiter. But good special teams coach he is not. Honestly need to get rid of the entire defensive coaching staff. Get rid of little richt. Hire a competent OC. The only 2 position coaches i really like are hartley and dugans. The rest of them can go tbh
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I like brown too, but not as this BS co OC.
 
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