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We're a month away from Summer Camp. It doesn't look like more grad transfers are coming, so the roster is set, along with the schedule and staff. Relative to a playoff caliber level, how would you rate each position group?

A = positive marginal contribution to making playoffs, B = neutral, neither helps nor hurts playoff chances, C or below = detrimental, could lose us games and knock us out of the playoffs.

Here is my grading:
Offense
QB -- A
OTs -- A
IOL -- B+
TE -- B+
RB -- B
WR -- B-

Defense
DE -- A-
CB -- A-
LB -- B-
DT -- B-
S -- B-

STs
Punter -- B+
Kicker -- C

Overall, that's a playoff caliber roster, IMO. However, we're pretty thin in spots, and injuries -- especially at DT and S, positions that are injury-prone -- could seriously set us back. And ironically our kicking situation is so uncertain, it could be a difference maker in W/Ls.

What does everyone else think?
 
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grover said:
Because I haven’t seen Toure in pads playing with violence yet. If he’s fully back then yeah, I’d upgrade it.
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I was genuinely asking. I’d assume most would think Wes will play ~70% of the snaps at one spot. I have absolutely zero clue who plays the other 30% nor who else plays any of the snaps at the other backer spot.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I was genuinely asking. I’d assume most would think Wes will play ~70% of the snaps at one spot. I have absolutely zero clue who plays the other 30% nor who else plays any of the snaps at the other backer spot.
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Sorry if my reply came across as snappy, was not intentional. I agree with your general premise on Wes. I see him as neither a playoff asset or liability. He’s good not great. I see the collective rest in the same way. There’s upside potential there but no proven productivity. Bonner is similar to Wes. Toure healthy would raise the room.
 
This is difficult. Is it based on what each group's potential? Or what they are right now?

Take QB for example.

Glass half full, Beck plays like the injury never happened. Our depth doesn't matter because he takes almost every snap, and he plays well. That's an easy A.

Glass half empty, he's got some rust and soreness that leads to our backups starting a game or two.

Two of those backups are flat out terrible and the third is a true freshman. If any of them starts a single game besides Bethune, there's no way that group is an A.

We can probably do that at just every position. So its hard to grade them.
 
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My opinion:

QB - B
RB - B+
WR - B-
TE - B+
OL - A-

DT - C+
DE - A-
LB - C+
CB/N - A-
S - B

Beck doesn't have a backup that I would feel confident in leading us for more than a week or two

For what our offense asks of its TEs, I feel pretty good

If we're good team against the run, it'll be because we got a bunch of early leads or Heatherman is a genius. Getting both is our best chance to make noise this year

I'm considering Damari a Nickel player and occasional safety. I'm really high on him regardless. But in that role, he's a Day 2 pick. Our corners as a whole are pretty effing solid.. Safeties, not as nice
 
Offense
QB -- A
OTs -- A
IOL -- B+
TE -- C
RB -- B+
WR -- C

Defense
DE -- A-
CB -- A
LB -- C
DT -- C+
S -- B-

The C's are until proven otherwise of course. I expect JoJo and Lofton to have big years. I think Toure will be good at MLB.
Hopefully Justin Scott can be dominant at DT.
 
Offense
QB -- A+ Beck is potentially the best QB in college this year

OTs -- A- would be an A but I'm not sold on Markel Bell. Have not seen enough yet.

IOL -- B- Anez Cooper is overrated. His PFF numbers from last year were actually below average for his position. Few know this.

TE -- B+ Lofton looks like the real deal and the bench is deep

RB -- B Jordon Lyle could explode this year.

WR -- C+ look decent on paper but there is no proven production. Beck will need to make them look good but can they make Beck look good?

Defense
DE -- A+ Bain,Mesidor, Blount ,Picket-Super solid

CB -- B- Still have PTSD from last year but this new group should be much better

LB -- B Toure looks like a beast and Bissanthe is more than just serviceable

DT -- B So much depth at DE that it could flow over to DT. Need Scott and Blay to ball out

S -- B- Was coaching to blame for last years secondary issues or talent. This group will be better
 
I can't even pretend to have an opinion on kicker. I'm uninformed more than knowing our punter is mostly unknown and our kicker struggled with accuracy last year
 
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grover said:
We're a month away from Summer Camp. It doesn't look like more grad transfers are coming, so the roster is set, along with the schedule and staff. Relative to a playoff caliber level, how would you rate each position group?

A = positive marginal contribution to making playoffs, B = neutral, neither helps nor hurts playoff chances, C or below = detrimental, could lose us games and knock us out of the playoffs.

Here is my grading:
Offense
QB -- A
OTs -- A
IOL -- B+
TE -- B+
RB -- B
WR -- B-

Defense
DE -- A-
CB -- A-
LB -- B-
DT -- B-
S -- B-

STs
Punter -- B+
Kicker -- C

Overall, that's a playoff caliber roster, IMO. However, we're pretty thin in spots, and injuries -- especially at DT and S, positions that are injury-prone -- could seriously set us back. And ironically our kicking situation is so uncertain, it could be a difference maker in W/Ls.

What does everyone else think?
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Get the question during offseason lull, but ask again after fall camp when see how healthy roster is and have a better idea on Beck and value of new additions.
 
When you look at positions you HAVE to factor depth. Any given play something can go south. No way we’re that high on the QB room. Maybe Beck but no way in **** this is a playoff team with Williams / Anderson / Nickel
 
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