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[The GOAT]

If you don't think these classes are elite, you're just an idiot

There are 119 teams in the bowl subdivision

The 2014 incoming class of Miami Hurricanes will be almost assuredly be the 2nd time in the past 3 seasons that Al Golden has a class in the Top 11, according to the 247 composite (without question the most reputable source).

That puts them in the top 10% when it comes to acquiring talent.

The losing can be attributed to many things, including the fact that they have missed on some specific necessities, but to say that these classes aren't elite is purely ignorant on a litany of levels.

2 5 star running backs in the last 3 seasons
3 consecutive classes with an Elite 11 QB
Miami has probably recruited the offensive line better than anyone not named Alabama in the last 5 years.
A defensive backfield LITTERED with High School All-Americans
Chickillo, McCord, and AQM were ALL stud edge recruits
This '14 class has an inordinate amount of guys who can rush the passer at a very high level

Have they missed on an impact interior defensive line recruit? Most certainly, but I'm not of the belief that a miss in one area reduces a class to pedestrian status. There are PLENTY of schools who are fielding defenses with defensive tackles who have far lesser profiles than the ones we have and are succeeding.

Scheme...Youth...Lack of consistency at the most important position on the field

These are the reasons for our mediocrity. Not recruiting.

Here are Golden's first 2 full classes. You tell me which position is elite or is building towards becoming elite with those two classes:


QB:
2012 Gray Crow: ***, has been expected to be a career back up at best since he committed
2012 David Thompson: **, Good at baseball
2012 Preston Dewey: ***, Retired
2013 Kevin Olsen: ****, Less than inspiring rumors circulating

RB:
2012 Duke Johnson: *****, Nothing really to say.
2012 Danny Dillard: ***, LOLWUT
2013 Augustus Edwards: ***, Looks like he can provide depth as a complimentary back

WR:
2012 Jontavious Varter: ***, Have gotten nothing
2012 Angelo Jean-Louis: ****, Gone, never got in
2012 D'Mauri Jones: ***, Have gotten nothing
2012 Herb Waters: ***, Has been pretty good, made some big plays
2012 Malcolm Lewis: ***, Looked pretty good until his ankle blew up
2012 Robert Lockhart: ***, Gone
2013 Ryheem Lockley: ***, Never made it
2013 Stacey Coley: ****, Baller
2013 Derrick Griffin: ****, Cool dunk highlights. Never made it.

OL:
2012 Taylor Gadbois: ***, Has he even played?
2012 Ereck Flowers: ****, Good player
2012 Danny Isidora: ***, Who?
2013 Alex Gall: ***, Rumors he may be looking to transfer
2013 Hunter Knighton: ***, Jersey!
2013 Sonny Odogwu: ***, One word, HUGE. As in huge guy and huge project

TE:
2013 Standish Dobard: ****, played some as a freshman
2013 Beau Sandland: ****, JUCO, did nothing really, one year left

DE:
2012 Jake O'Donnell: ***, Is he the guy we moved to TE? Or is it…
2012 Dwayne Hoilett: ***, Either way, nothing from both
2012 Jelani Hamilton: ****, At least he's played a little bit
2012 Tyriq McCord: ****, Only guy at DE worth a **** so far and he could be gone after this season. Criminally underused.
2013 AQM: ****, Looks like a baller

DT:
2012 Earl Moore: ***, Barely played, no one ever expected much
2012 Jacoby Briscoe: ***, Would have been a great pick up if we were putting together a League of Legends team, gone
2012 Dequan Ivery: ***, Is he DeGone Ivery yet?
2013 Ufomba Kamalu: **, Cool name.

LB:
2012 Raphael Kirby: ****, 2 seasons in and hasn't done much on one of the weakest units of the team
2012 Josh Witt: ***, Retired
2012 Gabe Terry: ***, Goon… I mean Gone.
2012 Jawand Blue: **, Meh
2013 Alex Figueroa: **, Looked like a player but got less and less snaps as the season went on
2013 Jermaine Grace: ***, Barely played, not sure about scheme fit.

CB:
2012 Larry Hope: ***, Has he even played?
2012 Vernon Davis: ***, Gone
2012 Nate Dortch: ***, Nothing.
2012 Ladarius Gunter: **, has been a solid starter
2012 Antonio Crawford: ***, at least he plays some
2012 Tracy Howard: *****, Looks like he'll be a good one.
2013 Artie Burns: ****, Played a lot, got beat a lot, looked like he had a clue at least
2013 Corn Elder: ****, Didn't play much but looks talented. Why is he not at RB?

S:
2012 Rayshawn Jenkins: ***, part-time starter, has looked pretty good
2012 Deon Bush: ****, Big freshman year, sophomore slump/injury
2013 Ray Lewis III: ***, No one expects much
2013 Jamal Carter: ****, Hyped but couldn't get PT with some bums getting snaps at the position

Yea?

 

[MiamiE]

Well if the kiddies don't produce they obviously weren't elite to begin with.

 

[jerzeycane]

If you don't think these classes are elite, you're just an idiot

There are 119 teams in the bowl subdivision

The 2014 incoming class of Miami Hurricanes will be almost assuredly be the 2nd time in the past 3 seasons that Al Golden has a class in the Top 11, according to the 247 composite (without question the most reputable source).

That puts them in the top 10% when it comes to acquiring talent.

The losing can be attributed to many things, including the fact that they have missed on some specific necessities, but to say that these classes aren't elite is purely ignorant on a litany of levels.

2 5 star running backs in the last 3 seasons
3 consecutive classes with an Elite 11 QB
Miami has probably recruited the offensive line better than anyone not named Alabama in the last 5 years.
A defensive backfield LITTERED with High School All-Americans
Chickillo, McCord, and AQM were ALL stud edge recruits
This '14 class has an inordinate amount of guys who can rush the passer at a very high level

Have they missed on an impact interior defensive line recruit? Most certainly, but I'm not of the belief that a miss in one area reduces a class to pedestrian status. There are PLENTY of schools who are fielding defenses with defensive tackles who have far lesser profiles than the ones we have and are succeeding.

Scheme...Youth...Lack of consistency at the most important position on the field

These are the reasons for our mediocrity. Not recruiting.

Here are Golden's first 2 full classes. You tell me which position is elite or is building towards becoming elite with those two classes:


QB:
2012 Gray Crow: ***, has been expected to be a career back up at best since he committed
2012 David Thompson: **, Good at baseball
2012 Preston Dewey: ***, Retired
2013 Kevin Olsen: ****, Less than inspiring rumors circulating

RB:
2012 Duke Johnson: *****, Nothing really to say.
2012 Danny Dillard: ***, LOLWUT
2013 Augustus Edwards: ***, Looks like he can provide depth as a complimentary back

WR:
2012 Jontavious Varter: ***, Have gotten nothing
2012 Angelo Jean-Louis: ****, Gone, never got in
2012 D'Mauri Jones: ***, Have gotten nothing
2012 Herb Waters: ***, Has been pretty good, made some big plays
2012 Malcolm Lewis: ***, Looked pretty good until his ankle blew up
2012 Robert Lockhart: ***, Gone
2013 Ryheem Lockley: ***, Never made it
2013 Stacey Coley: ****, Baller
2013 Derrick Griffin: ****, Cool dunk highlights. Never made it.

OL:
2012 Taylor Gadbois: ***, Has he even played?
2012 Ereck Flowers: ****, Good player
2012 Danny Isidora: ***, Who?
2013 Alex Gall: ***, Rumors he may be looking to transfer
2013 Hunter Knighton: ***, Jersey!
2013 Sonny Odogwu: ***, One word, HUGE. As in huge guy and huge project

TE:
2013 Standish Dobard: ****, played some as a freshman
2013 Beau Sandland: ****, JUCO, did nothing really, one year left

DE:
2012 Jake O'Donnell: ***, Is he the guy we moved to TE? Or is it…
2012 Dwayne Hoilett: ***, Either way, nothing from both
2012 Jelani Hamilton: ****, At least he's played a little bit
2012 Tyriq McCord: ****, Only guy at DE worth a **** so far and he could be gone after this season. Criminally underused.
2013 AQM: ****, Looks like a baller

DT:
2012 Earl Moore: ***, Barely played, no one ever expected much
2012 Jacoby Briscoe: ***, Would have been a great pick up if we were putting together a League of Legends team, gone
2012 Dequan Ivery: ***, Is he DeGone Ivery yet?
2013 Ufomba Kamalu: **, Cool name.

LB:
2012 Raphael Kirby: ****, 2 seasons in and hasn't done much on one of the weakest units of the team
2012 Josh Witt: ***, Retired
2012 Gabe Terry: ***, Goon… I mean Gone.
2012 Jawand Blue: **, Meh
2013 Alex Figueroa: **, Looked like a player but got less and less snaps as the season went on
2013 Jermaine Grace: ***, Barely played, not sure about scheme fit.

CB:
2012 Larry Hope: ***, Has he even played?
2012 Vernon Davis: ***, Gone
2012 Nate Dortch: ***, Nothing.
2012 Ladarius Gunter: **, has been a solid starter
2012 Antonio Crawford: ***, at least he plays some
2012 Tracy Howard: *****, Looks like he'll be a good one.
2013 Artie Burns: ****, Played a lot, got beat a lot, looked like he had a clue at least
2013 Corn Elder: ****, Didn't play much but looks talented. Why is he not at RB?

S:
2012 Rayshawn Jenkins: ***, part-time starter, has looked pretty good
2012 Deon Bush: ****, Big freshman year, sophomore slump/injury
2013 Ray Lewis III: ***, No one expects much
2013 Jamal Carter: ****, Hyped but couldn't get PT with some bums getting snaps at the position

You're arguing a totally different point than I am

 

[User-4525]

A lot of the people on the outside looking in think Miami continually lands elite classes. Huge misconception.

yyyyeeaahhhh okkkkk buddy.. "Huge Misconception"

It is a huge misconception. Some people don't follow recruiting year round, you know. At Sunlife, Georgia and Virginia tech fans were chirping about how Miami gets all these elite classes but can't win the ACC.

We do get the 2nd best classes in the ACC almost every year. VTech, Duke would kill to have our classes.

They aren't elite, few are, but they are good enough to win the Coastal

I agree. But the word used was elite

 

[jerzeycane]

A lot of the people on the outside looking in think Miami continually lands elite classes. Huge misconception.

yyyyeeaahhhh okkkkk buddy.. "Huge Misconception"

It is a huge misconception. Some people don't follow recruiting year round, you know. At Sunlife, Georgia and Virginia tech fans were chirping about how Miami gets all these elite classes but can't win the ACC.

We do get the 2nd best classes in the ACC almost every year. VTech, Duke would kill to have our classes.

They aren't elite, few are, but they are good enough to win the Coastal

I agree. But the word used was elite

Top 10 isn't elite?

 

[User-4525]

yyyyeeaahhhh okkkkk buddy.. "Huge Misconception"

It is a huge misconception. Some people don't follow recruiting year round, you know. At Sunlife, Georgia and Virginia tech fans were chirping about how Miami gets all these elite classes but can't win the ACC.

We do get the 2nd best classes in the ACC almost every year. VTech, Duke would kill to have our classes.

They aren't elite, few are, but they are good enough to win the Coastal

I agree. But the word used was elite

Top 10 isn't elite?

do not believe this class ends up top ten. But in the header of the article, it says how does al golden land elite classes.... but his teams are average. That doesn't happen. 2011 and 2013 were not top ten. While the 2012 class signed 33 recruits. 2012 was good but looking at the avg. star ranking it was not a top ten class. Add that to the fact one of our best recruits (AJL) never made it to campus.