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Honestly, the best case scenario for everyone involved is UF signing Mullen to a 10-year extension, with a $100 million buyout. The Jets avoid hiring a not elite CFB HC, and the CFB world gets a Florida program that's stuck at 8-4/9-3 for the next decade. CFB nirvana.

Right? These people thinking Mullen is a good coach after one season with literally a worse record than we have is absolutely baffling. The guy has done nothing in his career as an HC besides being complicit in ******** over a bunch of kids and whoring his wife out to players.

Dude is a lot closer to Ron Zook than Urban Meyer.
 
Right? These people thinking Mullen is a good coach after one season with literally a worse record than we have is absolutely baffling. The guy has done nothing in his career as an HC besides being complicit in ******** over a bunch of kids and whoring his wife out to players.

Dude is a lot closer to Ron Zook than Urban Meyer.
There's a top tier for CFB coaches that hasn't really changed in the past few years. That tier is comprised of Dabo, Day, Jimbo, Saban, Reily, and Urban. Second Tier slightly bigger, and is a revolving door of coaches depending on the year (e.g. Bryan Kelly). Mullen in his best years is a second-tier coach, most of the time he's a high-level third tier.

Completely agree that he's way closer to Ron Zook than Urban. That's a good comparison. Better than Muschamp, McElwain, and Zook, but nowhere close to Urban.
 
The Jets being a consistent disaster should come as a surprise to no one given the ownership. Woody Johnson was basically born a billionaire and never had to work for anything in his life. The CRAZY thing is with all that money, he doesn't even really have an education to speak of. If you're born a billionaire, you can probably do a little better than a Bachelor's from Arizona.

His career accomplishments effectively amount to being given summer internships at J&J, ******** the IRS out of millions of dollars and kissing Trump's *** to get an ambassador position.

I wouldn't trust him to run a coffee stand.

Note: I really don't care about the NFL and have no personal disdain for the Jets based on rooting interest. Funny enough, a Jets game is I think the only regular season NFL game I've ever been to.
 
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There's a top tier for CFB coaches that hasn't really changed in the past few years. That tier is comprised of Dabo, Day, Jimbo, Saban, Reily, and Urban. Second Tier slightly bigger, and is a revolving door of coaches depending on the year (e.g. Bryan Kelly). Mullen in his best years is a second-tier coach, most of the time he's a high-level third tier.

Completely agree that he's way closer to Ron Zook than Urban. That's a good comparison. Better than Muschamp, McElwain, and Zook, but nowhere close to Urban.

Mullen is a worse recruiter than all those guys you mentioned. Much worse.

UFailure is about to pay for his poor unbalanced recruiting.

Also, on a completely different topic, but on point to this thread, Gase has been a dead man walking since last year.
 
There's a top tier for CFB coaches that hasn't really changed in the past few years. That tier is comprised of Dabo, Day, Jimbo, Saban, Reily, and Urban. Second Tier slightly bigger, and is a revolving door of coaches depending on the year (e.g. Bryan Kelly). Mullen in his best years is a second-tier coach, most of the time he's a high-level third tier.

Completely agree that he's way closer to Ron Zook than Urban. That's a good comparison. Better than Muschamp, McElwain, and Zook, but nowhere close to Urban.

Completely agree with this. It's also why you have a consolidation of power among a few major schools. CFB is ALL ABOUT RESOURCES anymore, and the divide between the haves and have-nots is growing at an increasingly fast pace. Makes it all that much more astonishing places like Texas and Michigan can't get their acts together.

I really think in our lifetimes (15-20 years or so) what we know as P5 will be about 32 schools. The big four programs are gonna start consistently beating the nobody's by 100+.
 
Mullen is a worse recruiter than all those guys you mentioned. Much worse.

UFailure is about to pay for his poor unbalanced recruiting
That's true, for all of Zook's issues, the roster he handed over to Urban in 2005 was pretty loaded. Just wasn't a good coach. All the guys that really did terrific this year on their O were also McElwain recruits that Mullen inherited (Trask, Toney, etc.; though Pitts and Grimes were all Mullen).

I do think that UF just isn't an issue moving forward, under the huge assumption we get our house in order.
 
Mullen is a worse recruiter than all those guys you mentioned. Much worse.

UFailure is about to pay for his poor unbalanced recruiting.

Also, on a completely different topic, but on point to this thread, Gase has been a dead man walking since last year.

While I can't really speak to his recruiting prowess, I can tell for certain that he's not going to bring in a bunch of elite guys and earn their respect. The dude is more of a doofus than Larry Coker could ever imagine being. He should be coaching at a place like Brown.

If he doesn't leave soon the wheels are gonna fall off and it's gonna be fun to watch.
 
Completely agree with this. It's also why you have a consolidation of power among a few major schools. CFB is ALL ABOUT RESOURCES anymore, and the divide between the haves and have-nots is growing at an increasingly fast pace. Makes it all that much more astonishing places like Texas and Michigan can't get their acts together.

I really think in our lifetimes (15-20 years or so) what we know as P5 will be about 32 schools. The big four programs are gonna start consistently beating the nobody's by 100+.
It's pretty amazing when you think about how Texas and Michigan can't get their act together. Michigan being more inexplicable than Texas. Texas is a program that's won 1-national championship in 51 years (Richard Nixon was President when they won their second most recent). They're nowhere close to as dominant as they should be considering their money or their history. They're like a poor mans Notre Dame. Same with Michigan, albeit they want to continue the insanity by potentially extending Harbaugh.
 
That's true, for all of Zook's issues, the roster he handed over to Urban in 2005 was pretty loaded. Just wasn't a good coach. All the guys that really did terrific this year on their O were also McElwain recruits that Mullen inherited (Trask, Toney, etc.; though Pitts and Grimes were all Mullen).

I do think that UF just isn't an issue moving forward, under the huge assumption we get our house in order.

Exactly what I've been saying about him. It's much easier to win with other people's recruits than it is to build and manage a culture of your own. Everytime I see Dan Mullen I really just wanna take his lunch money.
 
It's pretty amazing when you think about how Texas and Michigan can't get their act together. Michigan being more inexplicable than Texas. Texas is a program that's won 1-national championship in 51 years (Richard Nixon was President when they won their second most recent). They're nowhere close to as dominant as they should be considering their money or their history. They're like a poor mans Notre Dame. Same with Michigan, albeit they want to continue the insanity by potentially extending Harbaugh.

Michigan continuing to hold on to Harbaugh is ASTONISHING. And I like the comparison of Texas being a poor man's Notre Dame -- it's accurate. Oklahoma has really, truly outshined them in football over the past many decades and while big, they're not Texas big. The other one that totally boggles my mind is how UCLA doesn't consistently field a strong to very strong program. They've been basically nothing in football my whole life while having amazing recruiting territory, a phenomenal athletic department as a whole and extremely good academics.

We have so many people on here throwing hissy fits about going 8-3 without remotely comprehending that there are other schools that do less with way, WAY more.
 
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Exactly what I've been saying about him. It's much easier to win with other people's recruits than it is to build and manage a culture of your own. Everytime I see Dan Mullen I really just wanna take his lunch money.
Funny thing is about Mullen, he's known to be one of the ****iest coaches in CFB. Literally lost out on our job in 2010 and 2015 because he was so arrogant in the 2010 interview. Not to mention the excuses he makes for every loss.
 
Funny thing is about Mullen, he's known to be one of the ****iest coaches in CFB. Literally lost out on our job in 2010 and 2015 because he was so arrogant in the 2010 interview. Not to mention the excuses he makes for every loss.

Well apparently a lot of people want his wife...? So.... he's got that going for him, which is.... nice.... I guess?
 
That's true, for all of Zook's issues, the roster he handed over to Urban in 2005 was pretty loaded. Just wasn't a good coach. All the guys that really did terrific this year on their O were also McElwain recruits that Mullen inherited (Trask, Toney, etc.; though Pitts and Grimes were all Mullen).

I do think that UF just isn't an issue moving forward, under the huge assumption we get our house in order.

the issue for UF will be all those lost ICs too due to taking guys that would never qualify. hes smart to get out before next years 4 win season occurs
 
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