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Empirical Cane

Empirical Cane

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Last year, there was a ton of criticism of San Mario "forcing his system" onto the players on the roster rather than maximizing a system "for the players on tbe roster".

I disagreed with that take for Miami's long-term success, but fair point for sure from differing contexts on how to win with a program.

This year, there are has been a ton of bellyaching and heavy menstruating about the lack of offensive production going back to GT with the "Dawson is having to mold to Mario's ways..."

Here's where I'd say this criticisms are off the mark.

When faced with near-peer/peer competitors (minus outlier of aTm), the negative common demoninator has been QB1 play. Specifically as follows:

QB1 TVD:
- Incompletions due to low percentage double-covered WRs with others wide open
- Interceptions

QB1 EW
- Incompletions due to nervous yips


QB1 TVD now has 12Qs + 1OT w/ subpar play and catastrophic INTs (5 TD : 7 INT)
- Confidence cratering, not rebounding
- Trending down heavily

QB1 EW now has 4Qs + 1OT (1 TD : 1 INT)
- Confidence started low, gained pace by 4Q
- Trending up

Mario, as he should, allows Dawson to run the offfense. Now through his last 12Qs + OT of play, for whatever reason, TVD is limiting the play calling and results not the playcalling itself.

Contrast this with what we saw QB1 EW allow for with slow and deliberate opening of the playbook in just 4Qs. As EW's confidence grew, the play calling and results were expanded.

It's hard to be so ruthless in a ruthless industry because we forget these are still young adults, but they are well paid young adults.

The answer is very clear: sit TVD and start EW.

The data are what the data are.
 
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I say give TVD the game plan they gave Emory. Heavy run with a lot of short throws and see if he can get into a rhythm. If he does, open it up more as he gets his confidence back. Don't try to throw deep, just take what the defense gives you and move the chains.
 
MovingZen said:
I say give TVD the game plan they gave Emory. Heavy run with a lot of short throws and see if he can get into a rhythm. If he does, open it up more as he gets his confidence back. Don't try to throw deep, just take what the defense gives you and move the chains.
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It's a strategy I advocated for against UVA.

HOWEVER, TVD appears to continue to lock-in on X no matter how many defenders are covering him and how wide open everyone else.

EW, so far, wasn't showing that deficiency in his limited body of work.
 
Mario is Thanos to QBs..
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407cane said:
part of your "data" is that TVD played bad in OT? lmao

by handing the ball off three times?
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That's EXACTLY my point.

I could see not trusting EW to move our Canes downfield last minute against Clemson for FG to win in regulation. Dawson trusted him to throw in OT.

Contrast this with ZERO faith in TVD, Miami's savior well-seasoned gun slinger, to move the O with plenty of time for game winning FG in regulation THEN give him no opportunity to throw in OT to seal the deal.

Yep. Try to keep up.
 
i don't think it's a cut and dry decision. we have the meat (pause) of our schedule coming up with 2 consecutive road games.

if mario/dawson have the confidence in emory to run the second half clemson game offense (and more!) on the road with the freshman, then they should start him.

if they don't, then stick with TVD, recent warts and all, and try to build him back up against NCST so he can cook with confidence against the semenholes.

the worst decision would be to stick with TVD then pull him midgame next week after he throws the ball to a LBer that even but himself sees. either elevate emory before the game or try to rehabilitate TVD (and possibly pray).

either way...bound to be...

a comedy tonight
 
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Empirical Cane said:
That's EXACTLY my point.

I could see not trusting EW to move our Canes downfield last minute against Clemson for FG to win in regulation. Dawson trusted him to throw in OT.

Contrast this with ZERO faith in TVD, Miami's savior well-seasoned gun slinger, to move the O with plenty of time for game winning FG in regulation THEN give him no opportunity to throw in OT to seal the deal.

Yep. Try to keep up.
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That was not your point lmao

It was a complete oversight by you and you’re trying to play it off.

Don’t let me slow down your mope bandwagon

Can’t wait to see what happens when you get your wish and Emory starts and he throws two picks. Excited for a very similar thread!
 
fraggle said:
Kind of tired of hearing TVD concentrates too much on X yet X got the most receptions from Emory in the Clemson game. How about credit to X for getting open. He is our Braxton Berrios. (or for you old timers Howard Twilley of the Fins)
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I don't know why so many people have such a hard time realizing that X is open ALL the time. He's a really good slot guy. However, I will say that TVD tends to force throws his way, but TVD has been forcing throws everywhere lately.
 
407cane said:
That was not your point lmao

It was a complete oversight by you and you’re trying to play it off.

Don’t let me slow down your mope bandwagon

Can’t wait to see what happens when you get your wish and Emory starts and he throws two picks. Excited for a very similar thread!
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Ok Ms Van Dyke. We'll stop pointing out the deficiencies in your son's game.

He's playing at an all-star level.
 
Extremely low data set for Emory. I don’t believe any judgment can be made about his future success or failure based on one game - especially when the game plan was obviously tailored to the run game and limiting his opportunity for failure.
 
423Hurricane said:
Extremely low data set for Emory. I don’t believe any judgment can be made about his future success or failure based on one game - especially when the game plan was obviously tailored to the run game and limiting his opportunity for failure.
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Correct.

HOWEVER. Decisions have to be made on what data is available.

12Qs + OT show a declining TVD, and catastophically so.

4Qs + OT show a strengthening EW.

It's obvious what is very likely going to result from more TVD touches.

That alone warrants discovering what our Canes have with EW.
 
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TVD will get through this. He can be great. He has the confidence of the team, the coaches, and most importantly me. He also gives us the best chance to win. I trust he'll get through this. Unlike Mario, he's shown me he can perform on GameDay.

His **** games were in games we either won, or Mario lost. UNC he was the only good thing our offense had. Certainly didn't see some wide open guys but he was all we had.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Correct.

HOWEVER. Decisions have to be made on what data is available.

12Qs + OT show a declining TVD, and catastophically so.

4Qs + OT show a strengthening EW.

It's plainly obvious what is ve
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. Although I agree something is off with TVD, 4 quarters plus OT is not enough data to make an informed decision as to how successful or not Emory would/will be.
 
fraggle said:
Kind of tired of hearing TVD concentrates too much on X yet X got the most receptions from Emory in the Clemson game. How about credit to X for getting open. He is our Braxton Berrios. (or for you old timers Howard Twilley of the Fins)
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Or maybe X was open at the right times for EW during Clemson game and still not thrown too in multiple coverages.

It's all on tape.
 
423Hurricane said:
We’ll have to agree to disagree. Although I agree something is off with TVD, 4 quarters plus OT is not enough data to make an informed decision as to how successful or not Emory would/will be.
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That's why San Mario and Dawson's creek get paid the big $$$$ to decide it and you and I porst on CIS.

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