ESPN uniting Butch Davis, Vilma + post-coach search thoughts

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Media column: ESPN uniting Butch Davis, Vilma all season and their reflections months after their involvement in coaching search; Media notes | Sports Buzz

Butch Davis and Jonathan Vilma will forever be linked during two critical times in UM football history.

A Davis recruit, Vilma played for an 11-1 UM team in 2000 before Davis left, the start of a three-year run that featured only two losses and the most talented teams in Hurricanes history. They were intertwined again late last year, when Vilma was named to an advisory committee to help select UM’s next football coach, and Davis was a finalist for the job.

Now the two have been reunited for a third time. ESPN is expected to announce next week that Davis and Vilma will paired as studio analysts on ESPN2’s college football coverage on Saturdays this fall, alongside host Chris Cotter. Vilma, new to ESPN, replaces Fox-bound Robert Smith.

“I’m very excited about it; I love college football,” Vilma said. “I still remember when Butch first recruited me. I remember seeing Butch for the first time, and he was bigger than I thought: 6-4.

“I think back to that time and everything has run its course. Now I get to sit alongside the guy who recruited me to UM and jump- started my career. We can’t have a Canes love-fest (on the air). It will be a lot of fun to talk football with him.”

Though the mark they left at UM came around the turn of the century (mostly before, in Davis’ case, after in Vilma’s), both figured prominently in this offseason’s coaching search.

Davis badly wanted the job and was immensely disappointed he didn’t get it. He said recently that he has moved on and voiced no complaints about the process.

“I would have loved the opportunity; I have a lot of affinity for them; it was a very memorable place for me,” Davis said. “We [helped] rebuild the program and gave it back its character and integrity and put them in position to play for three national titles. It didn’t work out. The things I had accomplished weren’t what they were looking for.”

He presented his specific vision to UM during his interview and said he told UM that if he had gotten the job, he believes he would “have won a national championship in four years” because “we were not going to lose 31 scholarships in four years” as he did (no fault of his) during his tenure at UM.

Davis said he’s not sure how close he came to getting the job, and that’s up for debate.

One former UM assistant coach said he was told specifically by the top of the UM administration that Davis would have gotten the job if Mark Richt didn’t become available. But a prominent Board of Trustees member said UM had concerns about how Davis explained his hiring of assistant coach John Blake, who was later barred from college coaching for three years for taking money from an agent, and that Davis wasn’t UM’s second choice.

What does Davis think of the Richt hire? Don’t expect effusive praise.

“I have no familiarity with him,” Davis said, even though Richt has been on a prominent national stage for 15 years. “I never coached against him. If you ask him, I'm sure he would say his record stands for itself.”

(The view here: Davis would have done a good job here and he deserves a chance to coach again. But Richt was the safer choice; he has been in the game more recently than Davis, who hadn’t coached since 2010 and at 64 is eight years older than Davis.)

As for Vilma, you have to admire the initiative he took in helping get the former players a voice at the table in the coaching search.

Three years earlier, Vilma “rocked the boat,” so to speak, during his battle with Commissioner Roger Goodell over his alleged role in the New Orleans Saints Bountygate controversy. Vilma vehemently denied any involvement; his NFL suspension was twice overturned but his defamation lawsuit against Goodell eventually was dismissed.

So it wasn’t surprising Vilma was the ringleader in efforts to get players input in the UM coaching search. He reached out to two dozen former players, called athletic director Blake James and several Board of Trustee members and eventually landed a coveted spot (with Vinny Testaverde) on the six-member coaching advisory committee.

“What made me want to do it,” Vilma said, “was watching” former players give opinions on social media and wanting to unite and galvanize them. “We were all so fragmented,” he said. “I said I knew we would have a stronger voice if we talked behind closed doors [and not on] social media.”

Before going to James, “I first wanted the blessing of every era that you can think of that went through UM before saying I am going to speak on behalf of the players,” Vilma said. “I said, ‘Hey look, this is a group effort.’ We all care about UM, though we show it in different ways. For us to be involved in a productive manner was the emphasis.

“I spoke to Blake and I spoke to some of the board members. They thought it made sense not to alienate some of players who
felt they were alienated. There has to be interaction between former players and the current players in as legal a scenario as possible. We love the university and we want to make sure we see it successful again. Having everyone come together in a productive manner was the first step of many to get back to where we want to be.”

Though Vilma declined to confirm whether he sat in on any interviews, he said he “was given input.”

He said “it’s not wrong for people to think” that he wanted Davis to get the job, but added the players “wanted the qualities that Butch represented when he was the coach. He instilled discipline and toughness and recruited well. We wanted someone with those qualities. We felt it may or may not be Butch.”

Vilma, a former first-round draft pick of the Jets who retired in 2014 after a nine-year NFL career, was fine with UM hiring Richt: “He’s a very good coach. His resume speaks for itself. It doesn’t ensure future [success].”

He doesn’t believe UM necessarily would have gone wrong with any of the four finalists: Richt, Davis, Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen or ex-Tampa Bay and ex-Rutgers coach Greg Schiano.

“But you never know until three or five years from now,” Vilma said. “We don’t know if Dan Mullen gets fired [eventually].”

Whether Vilma’s involvement in UM administrative decisions continues remains to be seen. He hasn’t asked James for any input since the coaching hire.

“Always my philosophy is let the coaches coach,” he said. “I love to come by. It’s not my job in my 10 minutes to think I have all the answers.”

As for these Canes, he says this could be a top 25 team but “we’ve looked on paper for many years at the talent we’ve had and we all assumed we would put out good teams and for some reason we didn’t.”

Davis, who still hopes to coach again, didn’t study the UM roster in depth before his interview with James and said he doesn’t know enough yet about the personnel to assess Miami’s chances. But he said quarterback Brad Kaaya “is a terrific kid and a great player. He has outstanding mobility, good arm. The unanswerable question is the offensive line. Does he have supporting cast, which I have no idea.”

Davis wishes he could have been coaching Kaaya this fall.

Incidentally, ESPN senior coordinator producer Lee Fitting said: "It’s cool that he and Butch have the connection to Miami, but that wasn’t the reason for hiring Jonathan. We hired Jonathan for the commentating and analyzing skills he demonstrated in the last couple of years, in addition to the potential that we see in him. Furthermore, he was a prominent figure in the sport for a long time, both in college and in the NFL. Adding that all together, it made a ton of sense.”
 
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I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time
 
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I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

I like to think ,we could have kept winning for years to come if he would have just stayed--but then again, who knows if we would have eventually had a UNC like situation that would have ruined the program.

I think we are better off with CMR
 
I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

I like to think ,we could have kept winning for years to come if he would have just stayed--but then again, who knows if we would have eventually had a UNC like situation that would have ruined the program.

I think we are better off with CMR

To at least some extent he was scapegoated at UNC. Not that he was completely innocent. But he was no more guilty than Roy Williams, who got off scot free.

In any case I'm not sure there's any way Butch could have survived the Shapiro scandal. As awful as Shannon was on the football field he handled Shapiro better than about 99% of coaches (including Butch) would have.
 
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Love Butch, but no way he survives Shalala. If Shalala wasn't here, Shapiro never happens. Shalala destroyed this program and w Butch's personality, I believe he would've been gone regardless.
 
Love Butch, but no way he survives Shalala. If Shalala wasn't here, Shapiro never happens. Shalala destroyed this program and w Butch's personality, I believe he would've been gone regardless.

This is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read on this website. and that's saying a lot.
 
Davis, who still hopes to coach again, didn’t study the UM roster in depth before his interview with James and said he doesn’t know enough yet about the personnel to assess Miami’s chances. But he said quarterback Brad Kaaya “is a terrific kid and a great player. He has outstanding mobility, good arm. The unanswerable question is the offensive line. Does he have supporting cast, which I have no idea.”

not a good look tbh. he's a college football analyst that doesn't keep up with the school that put him in the nfl. that's really disappointing after hearing so much about how badly he wanted the job.
 
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Love Butch, but no way he survives Shalala. If Shalala wasn't here, Shapiro never happens. Shalala destroyed this program and w Butch's personality, I believe he would've been gone regardless.

This is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read on this website. and that's saying a lot.

Agreed. Frankly about 99% of coaches would have been fired after Shapiro. Although Shannon would have survived the scandal if he wasn't so awful on the football field.

I don't know how Butch would have handled Shapiro. But I will say that if Coker had still been coach in 2010 we might have gotten the death penalty. Coker did an amazingly bad job with Shapiro.
 
I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

I like to think ,we could have kept winning for years to come if he would have just stayed--but then again, who knows if we would have eventually had a UNC like situation that would have ruined the program.

I think we are better off with CMR

To at least some extent he was scapegoated at UNC. Not that he was completely innocent. But he was no more guilty than Roy Williams, who got off scot free.

In any case I'm not sure there's any way Butch could have survived the Shapiro scandal. As awful as Shannon was on the football field he handled Shapiro better than about 99% of coaches (including Butch) would have.

He had one player involved, and being that UNC is Alabama for college bball, they threw Davis under the bus
 
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I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

Butch is hurt he didn't get the job because he knows no other program worth a **** will take him at this point. I appreciate all that Butch did back in the late nineties, but there's a reason why you don't hear him being linked to major college jobs right now. He really screwed himself at UNC, and people aren't willing to take on a guy in his mid sixties that by all intents and purposes didn't set the world on fire at his last stop. If Butch really wants back into the game, he has to go to a midmajor, and crush it. Butch Davis, had he been hired here would have most likely been a disaster. There are few instances of a coach coming back for a second tour of duty at a school, and it ending well. John Robinson was garbage at USC in the 90s, Johnny Majors was pathetic at Pitt during the same era. Chris Ault and Bill Snyder are the exceptions to the rule, and even Snyder hasn't been able to consistently keep the Wildcats in the top 25. Kansas State and Nevada are schools in which there's only one guy on earth that can win there. Miami isn't that job, this program has won national titles with four different coaches, coaches that had very little in common. I wish Butch the best of luck, but Miami did what was best for the program.*


*If Miami hadn't gotten Richt, I would have been perfectly happy with Mullen. I had Butch listed as a fail safe during the process, there's no way this program should have settled for Butch, when there were so many good coaches on the market last season.
 
How many programs ever hire a 65 year old? I was wondering the same thing myself. And before anybody mentions Nick Saban or Art Briles' age, keep in mind that they were about 9 years younger when they were hired.
 
I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

I like to think ,we could have kept winning for years to come if he would have just stayed--but then again, who knows if we would have eventually had a UNC like situation that would have ruined the program.

I think we are better off with CMR

To at least some extent he was scapegoated at UNC. Not that he was completely innocent. But he was no more guilty than Roy Williams, who got off scot free.

In any case I'm not sure there's any way Butch could have survived the Shapiro scandal. As awful as Shannon was on the football field he handled Shapiro better than about 99% of coaches (including Butch) would have.

He hired John Blake, that's where he went wrong. You hire that guy, be prepared to deal with the consequences. Blake is a garbage coach, and his recruiting skills are solely based on his connection to agents and money. Until Butch comes up with a good explanation WHY he hired him, I don't see any school taking a chance on him.
 
All he had to do was stay at UM and he would've been a legend. He didnt and now he lives with the consequences

I dont feel much sympathy for him
 
Love Butch, but no way he survives Shalala. If Shalala wasn't here, Shapiro never happens. Shalala destroyed this program and w Butch's personality, I believe he would've been gone regardless.

This is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read on this website. and that's saying a lot.

TF?? Did you even read my post?? I said IF SHALALA WASN'T HERE, SHAPIRO WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED. Can you read, or comprehend?? The point was Butch wouldn't have even made it to the Shapiro fiasco b/c he would've been gone due to Shalala, anyways. You do recall part of the reason y he left don't you?
 
I know what channel I will be watching for the post games shows on Saturdays...
Butch seemed very hurt he didn't get the job... Sucks but he shouldn't have left the first time

I like to think ,we could have kept winning for years to come if he would have just stayed--but then again, who knows if we would have eventually had a UNC like situation that would have ruined the program.

I think we are better off with CMR

To at least some extent he was scapegoated at UNC. Not that he was completely innocent. But he was no more guilty than Roy Williams, who got off scot free.

In any case I'm not sure there's any way Butch could have survived the Shapiro scandal. As awful as Shannon was on the football field he handled Shapiro better than about 99% of coaches (including Butch) would have.

He hired John Blake, that's where he went wrong. You hire that guy, be prepared to deal with the consequences. Blake is a garbage coach, and his recruiting skills are solely based on his connection to agents and money. Until Butch comes up with a good explanation WHY he hired him, I don't see any school taking a chance on him.

This... this.. this...

No school worth a fart will hire butch because of his dealings with Blake.
 
Butch can't even get the FIU gig once Turner gets fired...
I absolutely love him for what he did for our program & what he left behind for the Canes, he's no doubt an All-time Hurricane legend.
But, him acting as if he has no idea what's going on with the team is tad bit unbelievable to me & sounds like sour grapes on his part.
 
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Love Butch, but no way he survives Shalala. If Shalala wasn't here, Shapiro never happens. Shalala destroyed this program and w Butch's personality, I believe he would've been gone regardless.

This is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read on this website. and that's saying a lot.

TF?? Did you even read my post?? I said IF SHALALA WASN'T HERE, SHAPIRO WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED. Can you read, or comprehend?? The point was Butch wouldn't have even made it to the Shapiro fiasco b/c he would've been gone due to Shalala, anyways. You do recall part of the reason y he left don't you?

He left because the Browns gave him a **** good deal. Shalala hadn't even fully assumed office by the time he left, no one knew diddly squat about what she was going to do, or what her feelings were towards Butch. Butch used Shalala like he used a lot of other people throughout his life, to cover up his own failings. Butch chose to leave, he chose to do so, because he wanted to be an NFL coach. There was also some animosity towards the fanbase, thanks to the way he was treated when times got rough. Remember, he had lobbied extensively after Jimmy left Dallas to serve as his successor. Butch saw himself as the next Jimmy, and going to Cleveland was the step he had to take.
 
All he had to do was stay at UM and he would've been a legend. He didnt and now he lives with the consequences

I dont feel much sympathy for him

Not so sure about that knowing what Shalala was all about. I would agree with your assessment if it wasn't for the Donna Shalala factor.
 
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Davis, who still hopes to coach again, didn’t study the UM roster in depth before his interview with James and said he doesn’t know enough yet about the personnel to assess Miami’s chances. But he said quarterback Brad Kaaya “is a terrific kid and a great player. He has outstanding mobility, good arm. The unanswerable question is the offensive line. Does he have supporting cast, which I have no idea.”

not a good look tbh. he's a college football analyst that doesn't keep up with the school that put him in the nfl. that's really disappointing after hearing so much about how badly he wanted the job.

OK, since when does Kaaya have outstanding mobility? I just don't get that comment AT ALL. For a guy that really wanted the job, how on earth does he say Brad Kaaya has outstanding mobility? And the comment about how UM didn't want what he accomplished the first time around? Sour grapes all day long right there. Yes, UM wants success, but they went a different direction. They went with a guy that won't leave as soon as he has success. They went with a guy that they feel is clean.

I was a big Butch supporter, but I have a bad feeling he's going to turn on UM.
 
Davis, who still hopes to coach again, didn’t study the UM roster in depth before his interview with James and said he doesn’t know enough yet about the personnel to assess Miami’s chances. But he said quarterback Brad Kaaya “is a terrific kid and a great player. He has outstanding mobility, good arm. The unanswerable question is the offensive line. Does he have supporting cast, which I have no idea.”

not a good look tbh. he's a college football analyst that doesn't keep up with the school that put him in the nfl. that's really disappointing after hearing so much about how badly he wanted the job.

OK, since when does Kaaya have outstanding mobility? I just don't get that comment AT ALL. For a guy that really wanted the job, how on earth does he say Brad Kaaya has outstanding mobility? And the comment about how UM didn't want what he accomplished the first time around? Sour grapes all day long right there. Yes, UM wants success, but they went a different direction. They went with a guy that won't leave as soon as he has success. They went with a guy that they feel is clean.

I was a big Butch supporter, but I have a bad feeling he's going to turn on UM.

He would be making a big career mistake, Vilma will not allow it to happen, he will keep it real,
 
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