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Do the ref's pick on the U? If so, why?

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When I lived in Fort Lauderdale I knew several high school coaches and often filmed games for them. I got to know South Florida and kids there are both tough and mouthy. I now live in Orlando and I attend high school games here. It is different, players here are not as ****y and don't have the street attitude I saw in South Florida. Some of the high school games I've watched involve visiting South Florida teams. I've talked to coaches and referees here and they do not like the trash talk from these South Florida kids. Lots of profanity and definitely attitude. In observing I'd say that these visiting teams will get more scrutiny then their local opposition. I'm not saying the local kids can't give it back yet their coaches discourage responding.
As Hurricanes we are used to the brashness and toughness BUT is that brash attitude affecting the referees at the next level too? Having seen both sides and witnessing prejudice at the high school level, I'm am inclined to think it is probable.
I wonder if there are stats at the high school level to back up what I perceive as a probability?
 
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The phrase "pick-on" is sort of beta, but it's not crazy to believe there's a bias against Miami.

If you're a referee that is between about 50 and 65 years old, you grew up in in an era where the Hurricanes turned college football on its ear in the early '80s—which would've had you anywhere from 10 to 25 years old.

Unless you hailed from South Florida and appreciated what The U was doing, you most-likely were a Midwestern, a Southern or a Yankee who absolutely thought UM were a bunch of brash thugs and you wanted no part of that brand of football.

Terry Porter was an Oklahoma native and a longtime Big 12 referee. If there's any indication he was a Sooners fan, he saw the Hurricanes beat the brakes off Oklahoma three times in a row in the '80s—depriving them of a title in 1987, as well with that Orange Bowl victory.

Go look up some videos of former NBA ref Tim Donaghy and not just the cheating escapades he went down for—he now openly talks about not liking players; attributing technicals to guys like Allen Iverson or Rasheed Wallace for no reason (and laughing about it with other refs as they had wagers on this kind of stuff.)



I challenge any rival or critic to go back and watch footage of that Don Chaney "fumble" against Georgia Tech—how the official closest the the ball is starting to signal Chaney was down, before the line judge sprints from across the field to call fumble, even though he had the worse angle.

Same to be said for how these mooks handled safety calls against Clemson and Florida State; the commentators coming back in the third quarter in the Noles' broadcast to say headquarters was supposed to give them a post-halftime answer about why it wasn't a safety of Travis, but they no-showed and just blew it off, much to the commentators' surprise.

There's also the old school ACC refs who never liked Miami joining their conference that have always called it rather unfair against the Canes.

In this Louisville match-up, you have the tenth-ranked Cardinals set to play the fourth-ranked Seminoles—two Top 10 teams in the ACC title game, which will lead to a lot of chatter about how they got it right with the "two best teams" instead of divisions—as it would look bad if the best team in the Coastal was now and unranked North Carolina team, after losing last week.

There was no benefit to the ACC of Miami beating Louisville and the Brohm feel-good story created over there—and it was created as the Cards didn't have to play Florida State, Clemson or North Carolina this year, while Miami got all three.

It's a racket... and before any "leave the conference" chatter, again, anyone things the Big Ten or SEC zebras are gonna be any kinder to Miami? Please.

In the words of Jimmy Johnson, take it out of the ref's hands. Miami should've been up 38-13 against Georgia Tech, not 20-17, where a bogus fumble could've been a problem. Tyler Van Yips gave that game away when he couldn't read a zone defense; the Canes with FIVE turnovers that night to the Yellow Jackets' TWO.
 
fraggle said:
When I lived in Fort Lauderdale I knew several high school coaches and often filmed games for them. I got to know South Florida and kids there are both tough and mouthy. I now live in Orlando and I attend high school games here. It is different, players here are not as ****y and don't have the street attitude I saw in South Florida. Some of the high school games I've watched involve visiting South Florida teams. I've talked to coaches and referees here and they do not like the trash talk from these South Florida kids. Lots of profanity and definitely attitude. In observing I'd say that these visiting teams will get more scrutiny then their local opposition. I'm not saying the local kids can't give it back yet their coaches discourage responding.
As Hurricanes we are used to the brashness and toughness BUT is that brash attitude affecting the referees at the next level too? Having seen both sides and witnessing prejudice at the high school level, I'm am inclined to think it is probable.
I wonder if there are stats at the high school level to back up what I perceive as a probability?
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I think that’s a great observation. Many times, reputation illicits certain responses.
 
The U on the helmet creates a negative bias, always has

Its no different than stereotypes in regular society

Miami must automatically be bad (even though they really havent been Miami since 1991, Butch's teams were not as brash). Yeah, I know the brawl and what not but that was just an unusual circumstance

The reality is that there have been other teams that have been worse in how they act on the field but we all know narratrive is greater than reality

Alonzo was right, we werent the program that was supposed to be winning like this
 
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tsimonitis said:
I think we would complain a lot less about the refs if we were winning more games
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fraggle said:
When I lived in Fort Lauderdale I knew several high school coaches and often filmed games for them. I got to know South Florida and kids there are both tough and mouthy. I now live in Orlando and I attend high school games here. It is different, players here are not as ****y and don't have the street attitude I saw in South Florida. Some of the high school games I've watched involve visiting South Florida teams. I've talked to coaches and referees here and they do not like the trash talk from these South Florida kids. Lots of profanity and definitely attitude. In observing I'd say that these visiting teams will get more scrutiny then their local opposition. I'm not saying the local kids can't give it back yet their coaches discourage responding.
As Hurricanes we are used to the brashness and toughness BUT is that brash attitude affecting the referees at the next level too? Having seen both sides and witnessing prejudice at the high school level, I'm am inclined to think it is probable.
I wonder if there are stats at the high school level to back up what I perceive as a probability?
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Are you extended family of dannyboycane
 
There is no doubt to this and to say otherwise is foolish.
Most of the officials love CFB, or why would they do it, most people that love CFB hate Miami...period.
I know if I had the chance to ***** over UF or FSU, I'd be hard-pressed not to.
 
I honestly think the answer is no. There was a Louisville group behind us on Saturday who complained almost the whole game that the refs were giving the game to us.

I think it’s more total incompetence than a bias against us or any one team.
 
Sometimes I think we just get the sh*t end of the stick with bad officiating often, no actually bias, but sometimes I think there's inherent bias like you see with cops. They're not consciously out to f- us, but when it comes down to it, maybe it's just easier to call it against us..
 
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do the refs seem biased against us sometimes...yep....Do they miss calls against us that they seem to call for the other teams...yep.

But I hate that we seem to always use that as an excuse to make up for ****** play or ****** corching every time we lose because of one thing or another of our own doing.It's always the first thing out of some peoples mouths after we've screwed up and blown another game.
 
They must hate that Texan Flagg trash talking. Refs probably laugh at that since he's not some dominate player who can back trash talk up with his play
 
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