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“I think the excitement level (with recruits) is high,” Cristobal told The Athletic. “They know we’re headed in the right direction, and we’re going to have a **** of a (signing) class. We’re going after guys that we feel strongly about, and we are finding some other guys now that could be playing in the Super Bowl and you’ve never heard of them until we got to them. We trust our eyes. The board is deep and vast.”

“We’ve been on the other side of the country,” Cristobal said. “Even though we recruited some players over here, we really cherry-picked over here. We didn’t cultivate (relationships) over here. Very different. Now, you’ve got to cultivate on this side and cherry-pick the other side now. Recultivating, assigning areas and getting back into it, when you start, you’re always a year behind and it takes you a full year to fully catch up to be ahead of the kids in the 2024, 2025, 2026 classes. But we are at warp speed. We’ve got our foot on the gas and we’re rolling as hard and as fast as we can to get there.”

Cristobal made a run at 247Sports’ No. 1 ranked player in south Florida last year. But five-star defensive lineman Shemar Stewart opted to sign with Texas A&M. Stewart said Miami finished second. Cristobal thinks he still landed the best player in South Florida. “It’s important to get the No. 1 guy on your board,” Cristobal replied when asked how important it is to sign the No. 1 recruit in Miami’s backyard every year. “Was Wesley (Bissainthe) not No. 1 last year?”

LFG.
 
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Cryptical Envelopment said:
Cristobal thinks he still landed the best player in South Florida. “It’s important to get the No. 1 guy on your board,” Cristobal replied when asked how important it is to sign the No. 1 recruit in Miami’s backyard every year. “Was Wesley (Bissainthe) not No. 1 last year?”
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This might be the best quote I've seen in the Cristobal era. For reference, by the numbers Wesley Bissainthe was the 23rd recruit in FL, below guys in our own class like Kelly and Skinner. This skyrockets the Bissainthe hype as well as gives him supreme confidence that the staff sees him as a star. I trust Mario and co's evaluations, hopefully we see results on the field very soon.
 
Rellyrell said:
“We trust our eyes. The board is deep and vast.”

Man oh Man, does this not sound soooo good. This is how ‘cruitin is supposed to be.
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I love that quote too! Not caring if a guy is not highly rated right now and doing your own evaluations for guys you can coach up to potentially be all Americans. 5 am I’m hyped off this ish lol
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Question, what does Cristobal expect from a player committed to Miami? Is he like Dabo where he doesn’t want you visiting elsewhere? Does he pump the breaks on commits if he feels they are on a ‘visit high’? I think I read he wants guys to stagger announcements, is that true??

I know previously it was said he wants the parents on campus.

@LeedsCane
 
We forget the quality of the FR class. People forget how nervous we were about losing Wesley. He is a certified star. He has the frame, the speed and the mentality to be a high round pick. He was not big in high school but his tackling brought a punch. After next offseason program he will be an animal. Not sure where he is gonna be after this one just yet.
 
Rellyrell said:
“We trust our eyes. The board is deep and vast.”

Man oh Man, does this not sound soooo good. This is how ‘cruitin is supposed to be.
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Exactly. It's unfathomable to me that some people would put our evaluations in the hands of corrupt $45k/year 1099 college recruiting website writers who aren't qualified to coach girls JV HS football or scout *** at Publix.
 
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Cryptical Envelopment said:
Exactly. It's unfathomable to me that some people would put our evaluations in the hands of corrupt $45k/year 1099 college recruiting website writers who aren't qualified to coach girls JV HS football or scout *** at Publix.
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No doubt about it and that’s gonna pay dividends in the trenches. Every so often teams like NC ST, Pitt, Cinci and much others recruit players who turn into high draft picks because they have to rely on evaluation. The best teams combine both because sometimes your evaluation gonna coincide with the recruiting services, lots of time really. Its not hard to evaluate skill positions WR, CB, RB etc. Seeing a 6'5 lanky kid thats new to the game, and say give him to Feld for 2 offseasons and he will be a 5 star....now thats a skill. We had that with Butch and we need that back.

To be fair though, alot of these sites have started to employ former players and coaches etc to do the evaluations. The people like Gaby and them are not the ones doing that. They are like the person who read the weather on the tv. But i get your point.
 
Was doing some research. Mario first recruiting class at Oregon which was the 2018 class was #13, his next ones was #7, #12 and #6. This is Oregon that has one of the smallest recruiting bases in the nation. They have alot of facilities to mitigate the distance and weather. But most players go to schools that is reasonable distance from them, not all but most.

I say that to say, people thinking im gonna celebrate a top 10 class, aint gonna be nothing to me. Thats a baseline for me. I don't care who we have to knock out of it to get into that top 7. If we get most of the blue chip players who are local that we are after, then the ones in Florida and GA, no reason we wont do it. Getting a top 10 class with a proper machine is not difficult here, Manny was hovering there and Mark Richt had a top 8. Top 7 is challenging this cycle simply because they are making up alot of time. 2024 class, easily top 5 and then we humming.

Right now the national programs, like UF, UGA, Bama, Ohio St. They don't count us as a player for alot of these head to head. But check the top players we are after and look how many top players we are in their final list. They will wake up when we beat them for players they think we have no chancw with. Skinner and Citizen should have been a signal. But we will see
 
Love it. Essentially Mario is saying that he will land some of the highly rated players he's after and then he will take a good number of UTR kids because he/his staff trusts their eyes/evals.

I'm okay with it because Mario is a proven commodity as a HC, he's gotten it done on the field in the Pac-12 and so whoever he recruits, regardless of ranking, I'll trust his eval process until proven that he can't win with the players he's recruited.

Side note: BTW, I also think the cupboard is FAR from bare...but I generally believe in giving HCs a mulligan for Year 1 so long as you're team is competitive and you make a bowl game (8-4 reg season type record)
 
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Cryptical Envelopment said:
Exactly. It's unfathomable to me that some people would put our evaluations in the hands of corrupt $45k/year 1099 college recruiting website writers who aren't qualified to coach girls JV HS football or scout *** at Publix.
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Hold up. Scouting *** at Publix is an important job that I would trust very few to perform at a pro level. For example, based on gif selection, I would trust @PIPO and @Baba Yaga in that role, while @Paranos would not survive the first round of interviews. But I'd probably still trust @Paranos scouting DL over most of the basement-dwelling nerds at 247.
 
Hufftwoseven said:
Question, what does Cristobal expect from a player committed to Miami? Is he like Dabo where he doesn’t want you visiting elsewhere? Does he pump the breaks on commits if he feels they are on a ‘visit high’? I think I read he wants guys to stagger announcements, is that true??

I know previously it was said he wants the parents on campus.

@LeedsCane
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This is all from my understanding according to the recruits, coaches and members of circles (agents, owners) I have talked to and in no way am I saying I have spoken directly to Mario about his preferences and desires regarding recruits, yet: His big thing is he wants recruits to make sure they aren’t being caught up in the high of a visit and that when they commit, they understand that while they can take other visits, if they do then they are looking and if they are looking? We are looking.

As far as turning down commitments? That HAS happened but it’s extremely rare. I believe it happened twice at the Elite day. He has certain expectations for recruits for sure, usually he wants you recruiting for the school as openly and often as possible. Antonio Tripp is a great example of a kid who does that publicly whilst guys like say a Brown or a Bain will do it more quietly. Mario isn’t going to force a commitment from a kid and he doesn’t have any problem with a kid saying he is committed silently. The staff has confidence that said kids will pop when they want to and if it’s not for Miami, the second through the sixth or seventh (in some cases) options are already established and are being recruited equally as hard.

He absolutely wants to parents on visits, for two reasons; one? He knows the biggest strength of this staff is the ability to close with parents and recruits in the same room, face to face. Two? It shows more interest from the kid and less of a chance of a parent getting in the middle of a commitment if they are present for the commitment or the visit where the commitment is agreed upon. Staggering commitments seems to be the general consensus; the goal being to keep Miami constantly in the news for some positive reason and always have Miami on the minds of the recruits, no matter how ‘locked in’ they may be in their commitments. Mario knows that any kind of commitment is non-binding and there is no difference than if you have Miami in your top 10 or are committed publicly. You get recruited regardless.

Some positions are being recruited harder than others and individual coaches on the staff have varying intensities in how they recruit certain kids. It takes an army, thankfully we have one of the best.
 
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